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Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

Last post 05-18-2007, 23:16 by Peter Strömblad. 85 replies.
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  •  05-17-2007, 22:26

    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Thank you for sharing that!
  •  05-17-2007, 22:28

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Thank you so much!
  •  05-17-2007, 22:31

    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Yes, that's much less drastic than what I was doing - Thank you!
  •  05-17-2007, 22:32

    Re: How to contact Symantec??

    Thank God I am not alone and Phew- great to find this Forum. I thought my PMAIL had disappeared into thin air. disabling Norton Internet Security and reinstalling Pmail did not work. As soon as I switched Norton back on again, it again deleted winpm-32.exe as a trojan dropper.

     

    I found this forum quite easily using google but I simply cannot find a way of reporting the problem to Symantec online. It must be the most inaccesible company on the planet. Does anyone know how to report this problem to Symantec?

     

  •  05-17-2007, 22:56

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    Re: How to contact Symantec??

    Beats me. I just tried chatting with a Tech Support agent and it was like beating my head against the wall:

    Chat ID: 6ea7126e-3b8c-46fc-86dc-bb27bf96372c
    Problem : Your latest virus defnition files have incorrectly identified the Pegasus Mail executable (winpm-32.exe) as trojan.dropper. I had to unprotect my entire program folder for Pegasus Mail to get it back and working, which is not acceptable.
    Prabha: Hello Ms._Tracy_Prentiss. My name is Prabha.
    Prabha: Thank you for contacting Symantec Live Technical Support. Please make a note of the Chat Request ID given below for this interaction:


    Prabha: 324099
    Prabha: Is this the first time you are contacting Symantec or do you have a case number for the previous case?
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: Hi Prabha, I really just want to let you all know that there is a problem with the definition file released this afternoon
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: It is my first contact about this.
    Prabha: Okay
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: The Pegasus Mail forums are lit up with crazed people who have lost their e-mail application this afternoon
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: I being one of them
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: Just wanted to bring it to your attention
    Prabha: I understand from your message that you have some issue with the Virus Defintions have incorrectly identified the Trojan dropper. Am I correct?
    Prabha: Okay
    Prabha: Are we still connected?
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: yes
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: I worked around it by excluding the program folder
    Prabha: Okay
    Prabha: In order to resolve this issue, I recommend you to download th Update files from the Symantec and run a full sytem scan in safe Mode. If the issue is still there, you need run an online scan.
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: and then restoring the file from quarantine
    Prabha: I will provide you all the detailed instructions that you need to follow to resolve this issue.
    Prabha: Okay
    Prabha: Step 1: Download the Update file from the below link:
    Prabha: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/download/pages/US-N95.html
    Prabha: Please open the link now and download the updates by clicking on the file, 2007.........-i32.exe under the first ''File name''. First Save the file to desk top and then run it from there.
    Prabha: Step 2: Restart the system.
    Prabha: Step 3/; Perform the safe Mode  by following the stspe in the below link:
    Prabha: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: this link provides something newer than that which LiveUpdate provides?
    Prabha: Step 4: Perform the scan by following the steps below:
    
    --Click Start > Run.
    -- Type the following in the Run line, and then press Enter to start a virus scan:
    NAVW32 /L 
    Prabha: Yes, this will for for the latset update files
    Prabha: These are all the steps that you need to follow to safe guaerd the PC
    Prabha: I recommend you make a copy of this chat session. After ending this session, you will get an option to save the chat script. That time, please selact that  option and save whole chat script.
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: ok...
    Prabha: Is there anything else I can help you with?
    Ms._Tracy_Prentiss: no, I just thought you all should know about the issue with your definition file...there are a lot of annoyed people this afternoon
    ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!
  •  05-17-2007, 22:59

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Everything worked fine, but in my rush to get back up and running I installed a NEW version of winpm-32 instead of hitting the UPDATE install.  I now have a new version of Pmail -- and can't access my old folders!  What do I do?  How do I get all my old stuff back?

     thanks,

     

    pbm

  •  05-17-2007, 23:08

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Your experience with Symantec/Norton is nothing short of disgraceful on their part.

     I had a similar experience with Computer Associates.  Because of the offshore support teams and the fact that different teams in different places handle different aspects of the business it is nearly impossible to get the right person to solve the problem.

     

    I really hope you can find some level of management at Symantec and can forward your transcript to them to show what apalling value their getting for their outsourced support.
     


    Stuart

    Teco & EDT Rule
  •  05-17-2007, 23:12

    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Go into Symantec AntiVirus>Configure>File System Auto-Protect and take the check out of the check box. 

    Make an exclusion for Pegasus Mail program directory.

    Now reinstall Pegasus.

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    Enterprise Technical Support EMEA
    Symantec Security Response
    Email: eurocorp@symantec.com


    Kind regards / Peter
  •  05-17-2007, 23:26

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    I've reported the issue through the Symantec virus upload site since there doesn't appear to be anywhere else to send it: https://submit.symantec.com/websubmit/retail.cgi

     

    Lets see what Symantec does with it. 

  •  05-17-2007, 23:27

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Just in case you want to keep the paranoia settings I have roled back to version 4.31 of winpm-32.exe and NAV is happy with that.

     

    Spent some time with NAVsupport borgs and they got to the point of wantin money so left them to it as this is looking too much like a false positive since the wrom dat update file sent out from 15/-5/2007 and I'll be bug**erd if I am going to pay them £69.00 so they can see it is a false positive and not give my money back if it is proven to be a bad data file.

     

     

     

     

     

  •  05-17-2007, 23:30

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    and just incase you want to see how sad it was......

     

    NAV case no 269962621

    chat id

    323654

    user Mr._Michael_Collins has entered room.

    analyst Kamalaa has entered room.


    Kamalaa

    Hello Mr._Michael_Collins. My name is Kamalaa.


    Kamalaa

    Thank you for contacting Symantec Live Technical Support. Please make a note of the Chat Request Id [ 323654 ] for this interaction.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    hi there, been sent here by Tabby for help


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    problem with winpm-32.exe ver 4.41 being treated as a trojan


    Kamalaa

    Before troubleshooting this issue, I need to gather more information about this problem from you. This will greatly assist me in finding a resolution to your problem. May I proceed?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    yep


    Kamalaa

    See your computer has been infected by a High risk Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    appart from the O/S?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    until the last update all was fine


    Kamalaa

    Hence you need to contact the Virus Removal Check.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    but winpm-32.exe is not a virus


    Kamalaa

    But TROJAN is a High Risk Threat level category.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    yes but the program is not a trojan, it's an email program


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    been using it since 9194


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    1994


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    http://www.pmail.com/


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    NAV since the last dat update thinks the winpm-32.exe version 4.41 is a trojan


    Kamalaa

    May I put you on hold for 2-3 minutes while I investigate this issue further?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    yep


    Kamalaa

    Thank you for being online.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    no probs


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I had not used Pegasus Email since the last updtae on the 15th


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so did not spot an issue until tonight


    Kamalaa

    The file that you have mentioned may be Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    NAV deleted the file from the program folder.


    Kamalaa

    Hence you need to Run Full System scan.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so went back to my backup which was made 10 days agao and when the restore was run NAV deleted the file on access


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so tried a clean install frome the orriginal download fiel I have on cd


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    again NAV zapped the file as soon as the installer accessd it


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so rolled back Pegasus to ver 4.31 which has a few bugs but NAV reconned that was ok


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so looks to me like there may be a false trigger with the file


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I ran a full system scan from a clean reboot


    Kamalaa

    If Norton AntiVirus has detected any Virus, it will as for whether to Quarantine or Delete that file.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    is as soon as the file is accessed it gets zapped but only with version 4.41


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    it delets the file


    Kamalaa

    So there may be a chance that, it might have been prompted, there are chances likely that you have choosen to delete.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    has only been happeing since the update in 15/5/07....


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    Details: Internet Worm Protection Signature File Version: 15/05/2007 Rev. 1.

    Internet Worm Protection Engine Version: 3.0.0.60809.

     


    Kamalaa

    Norton AntiVirus has Detection Feature in it enabled, hence it will check the system whether your system has been infected or not.


    Kamalaa

    If Noroton program has detected a virus, then it is a Virus .


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    uless it is a false positive ID


    Kamalaa

    See as per your information only I am guiding now..


    Kamalaa

    You only said that, some of the files has been deleted then it is Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I have just run winzip to atempt to extract the file from the orriginal self extraxting zip file, and as soon as the files is accessed NAV treats it as hostile


    Kamalaa

    Web URL to contact Virus Removal Link : http://www.symantec.com/vremoval


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    this onlu happens with the 4.41 .exe version. the 4.31 .exe files NAV thinks is fine


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    that page redirects me to...


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/index_virus.jsp


    Kamalaa

    To resolve this kind of issue you need to contact the Virus Removal link.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    which is where I strated from 30 mins ago


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    was talking to Tabby who sent me to here


    Kamalaa

    That is what I am saying from the beginning that page is referring to Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    ?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I ran the sacn and it found nothing


    Kamalaa

    Best way to resolve your issue is to contact Virus Removal.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    http://www.symantec.com/vremoval sends me to http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/index_virus.jsp and the ywere the ones who sent me to here


    Kamalaa

    Once you have run the Full system Scan, if it detects some thing, then again when you run the Full System scan, the Virus has been removed from your system.


    Kamalaa

    Now your system is Free from Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    but is also removes a valid program Pegasus Email


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    winpm-32.exe is the .exe that forms the main componet of Pegasus


    Kamalaa

    If that file is an Infected file, then Norton will remove it.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and this only happens with version 4.41 of the .exe file


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and has only happens since the 15th dat updates


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    it recons its a trojan


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so ar you saying that version 4.41 of Pegasus Email is now a Trojan?


    Kamalaa

    If that is the root cause of the file then you need to remove that particular Pegasus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    as I think the Publisher would be very interested to hear it


    Kamalaa

    If it is detected as Trojan, then it is a Virus.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I have just download a second copy direct from pmail and get the same problem with the .exe file


    Kamalaa

    Then the problem is withe Pegasus, and Not with Norton.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    so it is definately not a false positive action due to the latest NAV data files then?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and Norton is now saying that Pegasus Email version 4.41 is a Trojan?


    Kamalaa

    Yes, please contact Virus Removal link for further assistance.


    Kamalaa

    They will guide you through the other process.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    but the removal url you gave me rediects back to the gereral support page which is where I strated all this from, and they were the ones who sent me here


    Kamalaa

    Please note that currently you are talking with Symantec Technical Support Deparment, for assistance with the issue you are facing you need to contact the Virus Removal Support to fix it.


    Kamalaa

    Virus Removal Support is a separate department.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    ok will start again


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    Thanks Kamalaa


    Kamalaa

    Thank you.

     

     

    user Mr._Michael_Collins has entered room.

    analyst Abhilash has entered room.


    Abhilash

    Hello Mr._Michael_Collins. My name is Abhilash.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    he there


    Abhilash

    Welcome to Symantec Virus & Spyware Solutions.

    Is this the first time you are contacting us or do you have a Case Number?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I have been sent back to vremoval from tech support


    Mr._Michael_Collins

     * Coburg poinst to topic


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    NAV case no 269962621 chat id 323654


    Mr._Michael_Collins

     


    Abhilash

    The Consultation fee would be £69.95.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    can't afford that


    Abhilash

    Also you will have 15 days during which you can contact us anytime if the issue persists.


    Abhilash

    After cleaning we'll also provide you free educative links for you to refer and stay safe .So you need not worry at all in future about such nasty issues .


    Abhilash

    Once there is infection on your computer, they would normally try to spread to other files on your hard drive and to other computers/devices connected to your system. Most of the times, they create/manipulate entries and keys in your windows registry. In these cases we need to manually remove these registry entries and also remove the infected files. Manipulating the registry is sometimes very risky and is to be done with extreme care, since a wrong manipulation could mean that the computer’s functioning could be unchangeably altered. Hence this would require a trained technician to do this for you.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I think I will come back to this as I am con convinced that this is a real trojen as it only affects a single .exe file on the whole system and is verions specific


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and has only happned since the 15/05/2007 worm update files


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    if this did prove to be a fals positive would I get my money back?


    Abhilash

    Michael, this section is only for the threat removal.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    well what would you do in my posistion?....


    Abhilash

    Michael, I do understand your concern.When you purchase the product, the cost of the product is for the software, updates to the software and for the virus definitions. Apart from this, there is an additional charge for value added services.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I have the system here locked down, I am the only user, have a hardware firewall on the internet connection, Zone alarm one the front end, and NAV running in paranoiya mode, ...


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and whe nI get an issue it is with just one single .exe file and then only when I have used to program after the last data update?


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    you can see why I am sceptic about this?


    Abhilash

    Yes Michael, but since this is a paid consultation service, we have only this option.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I am not seeing a degradation ion system performance, no other alearts wit hother .exe files......


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    I think I'll raise this on the Pegaus Forms first before parting with money


    Abhilash

    Michael,so please do note the case number provided.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    have noted no for futire ref


    Abhilash

    You can get back to us with this case number.


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    will do and thanks


    Abhilash

    If you need to contact "Symantec Virus & Spyware Solutions" again please use the link below:

    http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/home_homeoffice/index_virus.html

    It has been pleasure assisting you. Thank you for using Symantec. Have a great day ahead!!


    Mr._Michael_Collins

    and you Abhilash

  •  05-17-2007, 23:31

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    The problem is that I now have a NEW install as my defult Pmail and can't seem to get access to the older version.  So if reinstall Pegasus and ask it to UPDATE, it will update over the just-installed version, which doesn't have my old folders.... I have to somehow remove the new (as of 20 minutes ago) install, but without deleting all my "old" (old as of about 2 hours ago!)  folders and messages....

    I hope this makes sense...

    pbm 

  •  05-17-2007, 23:35

    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    I believe that you can drop your old folders (including the configuration files) on top of the new folders and everything should work as before.
  •  05-17-2007, 23:40

    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    Found the false positive reporting form https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive/index.html
  •  05-17-2007, 23:43

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    Re: Norton AntiVirus detecting winpm-32.exe as Trjan.Dropper!!!!

    I have been following this thread with increasing alarm; as my pmail version also got zapped.

     

    I have followed the instructions for fixing as best I can (we use Norton Internet Security)  so it took a while to find the correct places to uncheck.  We have since reinstalled the latest version of Pegasus, but now get a "15: Peer connect failure (the host has refused the connection)" error.  We have searched the online documentation, but can find no mention of this trace.

     

    Can someone please let me know how to correct this?  We can no longer connect on any of our 4 different email addresses, all to different providers.  The 'Net works fine, just Pegasus won't connect.

     

    Thanks. 

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