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Last post 04-05-2020, 23:53 by irelam. 11 replies.
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  •  08-12-2019, 18:01

    Public image

    I have been an enthusiastic user of PMAIL for 20 years or so, and I hope it will continue.  It is disappointing to log into this support site and find that on the Home page, the latest version of PMAIL is shown as 4.70 - several years out of date, and the download links seem to connect to a page where the latest version is 4.63 added in January 2012.

    I know that resources are scarce, but surely it would not take long for a few lines of text and links to be updated so that it looks (as I hope it is) like the program is up to date and still undergoing development.

    I know that there is information on this elsewhere, such as the official Pegasus website, and that David is close to release of an update, but this needs to be evident on THIS website.  As old users gradually fade away, new users who investigate Pegasus by a visit to the support website need to be reassured that it is still a viable program and worth having a look at.

     

    regards,

    Philip Jones

  •  08-12-2019, 23:12

    Re: Public image

    I know we all are anxious for the v5 arrival, but I think you landed someplace else.Wink IOW, www.pmail.com is the place to go after it.


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  •  08-13-2019, 11:41

    Re: Public image

    My post was placed on the Pegasus and Mercury forum home page, under the section 'About this site' under the heading 'Site Feedback'.  That seemed a very appropiate place to gove feedback about this site. That said, much the same comments apply to many pages of the Pegasus/Mercury website.

    So, where I put my comment is somewhat irrelevant.  I am simply making the point that a modicum of site maintenance might stimulate interest in Pegasus, whereas the current out of date offering will more likely lead people to assume that the program died a few years ago.  If I were a newcomer looking for a program such as Pegasus, what I find here would not encourage me to stay.  Please accept that this is intended as a positive comment, since I want Pegasus to survive.

  •  08-22-2019, 7:07

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    Re: Public image

    Hi Philip,

    I agree with you 100%. If any newby was to come here to learn more they would get the impression that Pegasus Mail is dead and buried.

    To add to your observations: Why is this site still using http and not https? Let’s Encrypt certificates are free so it cannot be due to lack of funds. The copyright info at the bottom of the page ends at 2011 which is when I suspect this site was last updated.

    Why not put out a request for a volunteer Webmaster who could at least update the most important info or simply delete whatever's no longer relevant?
  •  08-26-2019, 13:58

    Re: Public image

    I agree to 100% too.

    These few code snippets to do are no real burden.  

    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA

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  •  03-24-2020, 13:15

    Re: Public image

    Another SEVEN months did fade away without any mince changes!

    Really poor behaviour!

    1. No textual updates (aka "ver. 4.70" -> ver. 4.73" etc.)
    2. No upgrade from "http:" -> "https:".

    Since browsers and security software alarm the pmail- and the community-website due to the oldish "http:", it's a must to upgrade these sites to the "https:"-protocol.

    I guess, it's up to David Harris (pmail.com) and Peter Stroemblad (community.pmail.com) to do the job. Correct?

    So my questions here go to the beta-testers and "eternal" members:
    Is Peter Stroemblad still active, since he never did a post in years?
    Is somebody here around with contact abilities to Peter Stroemblad?
    Should I or should WE contact David Harris to promote the suggestions in this thread?

    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA


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  •  04-03-2020, 12:44

    Re: Public image

    <KNOCK>, <KNOCK>

    Anybody out there?
    No Reply? Any Comment?
    No Problem?

    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA


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    Delenn: "If the universe puts a mystery in front of us as a gift, politeness requires that we at least try and solve it."  [Babylon5, Atonement]

  •  04-05-2020, 1:51

    • irelam is not online. Last active: 04-08-2020, 22:15 irelam
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    Re: Public image

    Peter S is still alive but is busy with his full time job, and can't be contacted directly. If you were very concened about something, you could mail your suggestions to David Harris, and he MAY pass them on to Peter. I somehow how doubt anything will happen for months with all the closures and shutdowns

    I would suggest you post your ideas/concens to the  Suggestions forum.

     Martin

  •  04-05-2020, 15:40

    Re: Public image

    I am so disappointed by the complete lack of comprehension just expressed regarding this issue.  This is not a subject for 'suggestions', and the hiatus in commercial activity is just the time to do this, not an excuse for continued inaction.  Keeping the basic mechanics and notices on the website up to date is a necessity, just like renewing your car insurance and getting an annual service.  The indifferent response seen so far can only result in there being nobody left who wants to use PMAIL when the next version does become available.  If David needs help with this, then will those who are in a position to do so please give it.

    If the moderator has contact with Peter ot David, then their words probably carry more weitght than any message posted by me on any section of this forum.  Please do something positive and try to get the website updated at least to the point that it looks like Pegasus is still a viable piece of software.  So many people would thank you for dong that. 

  •  04-05-2020, 19:11

    • irelam is not online. Last active: 04-08-2020, 22:15 irelam
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    Re: Public image

    What website are you talking about? Community is running on a commercial website in Sweden, sharing time and access with the host company that Peter works for. The Community site is for users to comment or raise concerns.  I don't understand your "..Keeping the basic mechanics and notices on the website up to date". News about Pegasus Mail can be found at www.pmail.com.

    Martin

  •  04-05-2020, 21:46

    Re: Public image

    First, I was not aware that the community website - obviously the one I am talking about - was a separate activity un-associated with Pegasus Mail.  I have made good use of the community website in the past, so will acknowledge its value, and thanks to those who got it up and running in the first place.

    That said, I am disappointed by your defensive attitude.  If I were running the community website, or any other public facing operation, I would not feel at all content with a copyright notice at the bottom dated 2011 and references to out of date versions of Pegasus, references that have been highlighted by other posters.  Saying that you don't understand my comments is simply unbelievable. 

    Perhaps if you had said, 'yes, it does need a spring clean, but we are just too tied up with our commercial work to find time to do it' I would feel more inclined to sympathise with your position.  But I get the feeling that you are more concerned with fending off adverse comment than doing something to remove the cause of it.

     I've made my point, so that's it from me.

  •  04-05-2020, 23:53

    • irelam is not online. Last active: 04-08-2020, 22:15 irelam
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    Re: Public image

    Philip

      The copyright line belongs to the product producing the Community forum,  it may not be updatable any more.  The core product is to my knowledge unchangeable without being re-installed. There are many places in the forums that cite things like version numbers (see downloads forum) for Pegasus Mail, Mercury and the many extensions to these  products.

    There is no member of the team that is paid, and most are volunteers giving up there spare time to help move the products forward. 

    Finally I am not concerned about "adverse" comments as they can result in amendments/improvements to the various offerings. These products are offered as freeware.

    Thank you for your feedback

    Martin 

     

     

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