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PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

Last post 08-10-2018, 9:55 by FJR. 39 replies.
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  •  06-16-2018, 19:55

    PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Hi All!  No loud cheering and hurray??

    When I just randomly looked over the PMail forum and the last threads, I did realize that there were no news about the update, which was announced 2 months ago. <grumble, grumble

    Before quitting the whole thing, I accidentally took a look at the PMail homepage....
    And there <HOLY GRAIL!> was the 4.73!
    And the devnews from DH from June 7th.

    I nearly would've  missed the update (for a while) because of the forum is quiet as death.
    Gentlemen!!

    So it's on me (but it should'nt me!) to open a thread about 4.73.
    Asking:
    1. what about the user experiences updating 4.72 to 4.73?
    2. Any first user impressions on the all new HELP-System?

    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA

     
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  •  06-18-2018, 9:23

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    AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Hi Stefan,

    Interesting information ...   I'm wondering that the download list at this website (Community Pmail Downloads) is not being maintained since a long time.

    I will update our multi-user Pmail installation as soon as I find time (and no user is disturbing me Big Smile)

    But what about Mercury? In our case Mercury is connecting to our ISP. What about an update of the Mercury SSL libraries? Or is this not necessary as well?

    Extract from the v4.73 change log: "New OpenSSL build  This version includes OpenSSL v1.0.2n, a recent release with numerous fixes and with new capabilities such as support for Perfect Forward Secrecy ..."

    Cheers

    Joerg

  •  06-20-2018, 2:11

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    Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    The announcement about v4.73 was made on the discussion list.  It takes a long time for this site to be brought current and the newest version made available to download.  Next time, I'll try to remember to post here if there's an announcement on the discussion list that isn't posted here

    FWIW, there haven't been any widespread issues reported when upgrading to v4.73.


     

  •  06-20-2018, 12:29

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    AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Hi,

    i'am really glad, that there still is development on Pegasus, which i use since the mid 90th.

    I had no issues with the update, in fact see no difference.

    But... i see no new HELP-System ??
    It still has the old xxx.hlp Files and HELP does not work on Windows7 or newer...
    Did i got something wrong..? 

  •  06-20-2018, 13:22

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    I don't think you will notice any differences other than the Help system which works for me on both Win7 and Win10.  An exception is Help > Using help which didn't work in v4.72 either.

    If your Help > About Pegasus Mail menu item works use it to confirm version v4.73.639.  If confirmed, click the Info button and let us know what it shows for the path to the Home and New mailbox locations.

  •  06-20-2018, 15:43

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    As far as i know the new Help System ist not available in the german version jet.

  •  06-20-2018, 15:52

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Moin Peter,

    Really? Crying But ok, the translating of the entire help system is a lot of work. Does the german v4.73 contains the new help system at least in english? Or does it contain the old help system?

    Gruss

    Joerg

  •  06-20-2018, 16:46

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Joerg:
    But ok, the translating of the entire help system is a lot of work.

    In fact Sven Henze is looking for volunteers ...

    Joerg:
    Does the german v4.73 contain the new help system at least in english? Or does it contain the old help system?

    How about checking yourself?



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  •  06-20-2018, 19:49

    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    What I did learn - but only AFTER updating to 4.73 - the old HELP is still in place.
    So I was distributing fake news in the Usenet mailreader group!
    <grumble>

    Would've be kind to tell the lack of translations to the users of foreign language versions (what about the french Pmail?) BEFORE they do the update; e.g. DH devnews: "HELP translations are still in process"


    Grumbling around:
    It always depress me to see the very OLD "Latest News" when entering the community home page.
    Would really NOT time-consuming to put the new "News" out there.  
    Is Peter Stroemblad still the maintainer?
    Or who else is responsible?

    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA

     
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  •  06-21-2018, 12:34

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    PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Thanks to all. That's it. (Should have read the  readme.txt... Embarrassed)

    Joerg:

    Does the german v4.73 contains the new help system at least in english? Or does it contain the old help system?
     

    Yep, switched to "english" and voilá, there is the new HELP !

    I wonder, if there is an option to have the german program version with the new english help system... 

  •  06-22-2018, 5:16

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    Re: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Nothing special about help files, just rename the English Bearhtml help, ie bearhlp-en.htm to  bearhlp-de.htm 

    Same for IERenderer  rename  BearHlpIE-En.htm to BearHlpIE-De.htm Just remember to rename them back to English version when the German version is released

     The main Pegasus Mail help file is English only at this time but international versions will follow after the translation team completes the reworkings

    HTH

    Martin

  •  06-26-2018, 20:08

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    AW: Re: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    This evening I've sucessfully updated our multi-user network installation to v4.73 (full german version) without any problems. Only the help is still not working like before. Also a renaming of the current english help files into -de files didn't succeed. When calling the help, irrespective whether the Index or the Specific Help, only following error message appears (translated from german): "The help file could not be shown. If this notifications comes again, try to copy the hlp files to another directory".

    Is it still a problem when the help files bearhlp and bearhlpIE are residing at the server (\\server1\Pmail$\Programs) and not locally?

  •  06-26-2018, 20:24

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    Re: AW: Re: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    The help files are effectively read-only. The only thing that might happen is if the server gets multiple requests at the same time, it will handle any queueing of the fetching of the pages.

    Martin

  •  06-26-2018, 20:28

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    Hi Martin,

    At the moment I'm the only one guy accessing the server.

  •  06-26-2018, 20:58

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: PMail 4.73 released - update experience?

    What I haven't seen discussed and I think is needed is an explanation of what help system related files changed in v4.73.  The bearhlp files are specific to the renderers so aren't the files invoked by the Pegasus Mail help system.  It would be beneficial to know what files make up the help system in the English v4.73 version vs. in English v4.72 and German v4.73.

    In see a new file named SHOWHELP.EXE in the English v4.73 that isn't in English v4.72 but am clueless as to its purpose.

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