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RssMail being withdrawn

Last post 11-26-2019, 23:49 by Bburg. 7 replies.
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  •  11-23-2019, 0:25

    • irelam is not online. Last active: 12-12-2019, 0:36 irelam
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    RssMail being withdrawn

    I am removing RssMail (converts RSS streams into Pegasus Mail messages) from the Community download area, as the new RSS 2.5+ has become unworkable. The RSS streams that users want to  continue using should change the feeds over to using their main browsers Subscribe function.

    The existing RssMail will continue to work until the providers migrate to the new version of RSS protocol, without any updates being required.

    I will answer questions and issues with feed streams that have not been upgraded.

    Martin

  •  11-24-2019, 23:43

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    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    Just a quick note that I received notification from Netscape browser team that the News Feed system is being withdrawn completely from Firefox in November and December, worldwide. They provided a set of links to third party News Readers that could possibly replace their service.  I also noticed that SeaMonkey is no longer offering a Mail and News function, but Opera has announced its availability at: https://www.opera.com/features/news-reader. Chrome browser points its users to Google News.

    Martin

  •  11-25-2019, 14:00

    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    irelam:
    I received notification from Netscape browser team ...

    Hi Martin, really? "Netscape browser team" that's pretty nostalgia. :-)

    OPERA: RSS is not more an announcement. It's a feature. 

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    Stefan  aka  PMAIL NINJA

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  •  11-25-2019, 16:34

    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    irelam:

    Just a quick note that I received notification from Netscape browser team that the News Feed system is being withdrawn completely from Firefox in November and December, worldwide. They provided a set of links to third party News Readers that could possibly replace their service.  I also noticed that SeaMonkey is no longer offering a Mail and News function, but Opera has announced its availability at: https://www.opera.com/features/news-reader. Chrome browser points its users to Google News.

    Martin

    Martin, I've been using RSSOwl for a long time. It's a nice and steady application I started to use after some problems I had with FeedDemon. Besides that, it is also multi-platform so I can use it on my Win7 and Linux Mint machines. Anyway, it is abandon-ware right now with no maintenance since 2013, I think. Last version 2.2.1 is dated Nov/2014. People are recommending RSSOwlnix, a fork, but I'm wondering if this protocol thing won't mess thing up all around.

    Does this new protocol carry any benefit to the user or is just a way to push the user to big tech's nest like OAuth2 did to e-mail?


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  •  11-25-2019, 17:02

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    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    Euler,
      I am using both Rssmail and RssOWL so I can compare and see if there are any problems with Rssmail.  So far things look ok with my existing Rssmail. However the feed from various newspapers like the DailyTelegraph are now loaded with lots of unwanted tags and new structured syntax. So I had to drop theses links from Rssmail.
    I then tried to use the Subscribe function in most of the web browsers and as I reported they seem to be dropping the service either already or shortly.

    From what I can tell the problems are caused by increasing the blog-like content, to the extent that 90% of the streams are Html not XML.  If I kill all the Html tags, the stream becomes unreadable.  But strangely if I rename the streams to Html, then the html content formats fine but none of the content types are handled.

    So long live RssOWL for now.....

    Martin
  •  11-26-2019, 10:12

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    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    Hi Martin,

    Just a quick note that I received notification from Netscape browser team that the News Feed system is being withdrawn completely from Firefox in November and December, worldwide.

    Netscape? I think Mozilla - and they like Google with Chrome withdrawed it about a year ago.

    IE and Opera still support RSS and Thunderbird too.

    They provided a set of links to third party News Readers that could possibly replace their service.

    I use the addon "Feebro" with Firefox. Works fine!

    Hmm - you are mixing up News and Feeds a little bit? They withdrawed News FEED Reader. They never had a News (Group) Reader in Firefox - that's in Thunderbird.

    I also noticed that SeaMonkey is no longer offering a Mail and News function

    Where did you read this???

    Chrome browser points its users to Google News.

    ... which is not offered as a News Feed.

    bye    Olaf
  •  11-26-2019, 18:12

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    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    Thank you for your comments.  I am only refering to RSS-based content, which is only available as XML streams. The RSS icon indicates a qualified RSS stream.  I think the words News and RSS are confusing to people. RSS is not Blog content although RSS allows the embedding of Blog content via the CDATA tag. RSS is highly structured but simple syntax that has not changed much at all since its introduction. Browsers themselves do not cope with XML but offer add-ons.

    Newsgroups are provided by NNTP protocol, which is now largely obsolete because of security and content problems. There are only a handful of public servers left in the world. Most people who want this service set up their own private servers, and feed from the centralized servers, or their own sources. Pegasus Mail has one of these News server functions called Noticeboards, which only has limited functions.

    I can find no reference to RSS in the latest Opera

    Seamonkey has no reference to RSS protocol but does reference News feeds which seem to indicate electronic news articles/newspapers delivery. I checked with my latest version of SeaMonkey and there is no reference to RSS feeds.

    I don't use Chrome so I haven't found any reference to RSS as part of Chrome or among its many add-ons. I have no idea what News Groups are, except to guess they are groupings of News contents.  I have no idea what Google News offers, as I will never use their products.

    MicrosoftEdge does not have RSS support, and I have loaded MicrosoftEdge Dev version which is based on Chrome and neither does it. Internet Explorer was disabled on my Windows 10 system.

    From WiKi I found the following statement:

    Mozilla removed RSS support from Mozilla Firefox version 64.0, joining Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge which do not include RSS support, thus leaving Internet Explorer as the last major browser to include RSS support by default.

    So as I mentioned in my previous posting, I use Rssmail and RSSOWL as my sources of RSS feeds, and will continue this way until it becomes unworkable

    Martin.

     

  •  11-26-2019, 23:49

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    Re: RssMail being withdrawn

    I did it completely differently. I subscribed to a rss-to-email service called Blogtrottr: https://blogtrottr.com

    It delivers my RSS-feeds directly in my email inbox. 

View as RSS news feed in XML

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