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Michael Robertson posted Jan 8 '20 at 6:49 pm

Yes, It was a Gmail "insecure device" problem.  I went through the "Allow less insecure access" reset.  New I can use Pegasus.  I agree with David Harris about Google throwing it's weight around.  Thank you for the response.

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denniss posted Jan 7 '20 at 7:02 pm

Thank you, Brian and Euler -

The pmserver.txt file is signed by Chris Floyd at caladmin.com. It finally dawned on me I should try his old email address to at least see if he's still there. Will let you know if anything turns up.

Meanwhile, my network setup is such a cobbled together mess I won't trouble you with those details.

Thanks again,

 

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[quote user="mollym"]

OK, I'm writing along and I evidently hit some key or combination of keys that changed the text view to source code -- with no visible way to change it back to text.Can't find any help either here or in Firefox.

If the keystrokes (or however I did this) are peculiar to this forum, can anyone tell me...

how I did this

Is it a toggle

and if not, how can I revert to the normal message writing view?

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And if I hit some Firefox "show source code" combination, perhaps someone who's more familiar with, or more patient with, Firefox can help me find the answer?

TIA

molly

 

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After a few decades using Pegasus Mail this is the first time I heard of such "feature", but who knows the keystrokes that make TER tickle... Are we talking about Pegasus Mail or something else? If so, can we infer "source code" is a message RAW view? Please elaborate.

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Thank you, Bob, for "Adam-IBM, Bob-IBM, Claire-IBM help?  More surefire might be AdamIBM, BobIBM, ClaireIBM"...

The thing is, I want to have my contacts at, say, IBM close to one another in my address book, but I want one of them (other than the alphabetically-first) be the "default" person at IBM.... so if I am writing him, "IBM" is enough to find him the suggested contact. (For Adam at IBM, I would only have to add the A (or -A))

And this MOSTLY works. It's just that there's something weird in how Pegasus filters down, as you enter more and more letters. Getting one of the IBM addresses first, consistently, is always tricky, and sometimes beyond my many hours (literally... who needs "a life"?) of trying variations on many themes. I'd hate, in order to get "Bob" first, to have to go to...

IBM1- Bob

IBM2- Adam

IBM2- Claire

... but it is my next best guess now, unless someone can help.

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Michael posted Jan 24 '20 at 12:23 am

[quote user="Brian Fluet"]One thing that I think would help is a text file that advises which files go where.  That would save the step of having to locate and then replace.[/quote]

I've now added some hints to the history file. Aside from this, there's providing two minor fixes I'm sure you wouldn't want to miss. [;)]

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mollym posted Jan 5 '20 at 3:03 am

Constructed -- actually, I think, copied & pasted-- my .BAT file from instructions I got here (maybe from you).Years ago!

 

PMail and its thumb drive have gone all over the USA and Canada with me -- on several Windows laptops --with no major problems, and at home regularly brings me mail as I switch between the  desktop and the Surface and now the laptop I got when the desktop (win7, bless it) went into a decline and finally became unbootable. Gotta love a program like that!

 What I was wondering about was whether the fact that I was attempting to run the various help executables from the thumb drive conflicted with wherever Windows thought they should run from. Given how intrusive Win 10 is.

 One thing, a vital Passport (brand new) drive with all the data I could rescue from the desktop drives went nuts -- "can't acess disk/file/etc because of fatal hardware error" -- with moments of usability as I changed cables, moved it from one slot on the powered hub, etc. As the Passports are seen as hard drives and the bulky ones often won't read when plugged into a hub, I put the Passport into the one free port on the laptop and it's fine.  I also had it on kind of a long cable and the 2nd Passport, on the supplied cable, has never had a problem. Plugging the thumb drive directly into the laptop didn't do a thing for the disappearing help problem but it might be a question to ask, given the complaints about the current hubs failing -- sometimes slot by slot.y

 Thanks for all your help and encouragement. Now that the problem with the search results folders refusing to go away on exit, I may not need PMail's help for another 5 years so I'm not going to worry about it!

@echo off
start %drive%\PMAIL\Programs\winpm-32.exe -roam -a -ms -i (myname)
exit

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euler posted Jan 6 '20 at 4:21 am

[quote user="mollym"]

PS: clarification of "hanging on to (American idiom?):" PMail was not releasing -- i.e., deleting-- found files upon exit. Nothing to do with system hang though like you I'm finding  the new Win 10 laptop deadly slow with almost everything, and it should be far faster than either the Surface (Win 8) or the several years old desktop (Win 7)

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This can happen when there is a duplicate Pegasus Mail folder name, even if they are in different Trays.

You can check for a duplicate folder name by searching HIERARCH.PM for multiple hits on that folder name.

If you find this is the case, make note of the filename and tray name for each one.

Entries in HIERARCH are in the form:

0,0,"U12CGKH7:6C1E:FOL03D5F","0851582:TrayName","FolderName"

The filename is the 8 characters following the second colon (FOL03D5F in this example).

Below is a method that I'm pretty certain will work but as I've typed this I started to wonder whether simply changing the "FolderName" portion of one of the entries will solve the problem.  You can try it if you like, just have a safety copy of HIERARCH.PM to restore if it doesn't work.

Here is the method that I'm pretty sure will work:

Once you have the filenames, make sure Pegasus Mail is closed and that you have a backup of your mailbox directory. 

Navigate to your mailbox directory using a file explorer and move one of the above found filename.PMM and .PMI file pairs to a temporary location. 

Start Pegasus Mail.  You should now see one of the missing folders in the folder list.  Rename it.

Close Pegasus Mail.

Copy the moved PMM & PMI files back to the mailbox directory.

Start Pegasus Mail.  You should now see the other missing folder.

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DSE posted Jan 1 '20 at 9:35 pm

It appears that both computers have Pmail in C:\Pmail and the mail folders are C:\Pmail\Mail

 

I will try what you suggested in the earlier message.

 

Thanks,

 

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Brian Fluet posted Dec 30 '19 at 7:04 pm

If the PC hasn't been restarted I suggest doing that to rule out a system anomaly.

 

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Eshtaol posted Dec 20 '19 at 12:21 am

Gentlemen"

I wish to thank everyone for their help on trying to solve my problem. After all your suggestions plus seeing a tutorial

on the issue I find that my default settings was the problem and I'm now okay.

I went to start button and typed default settings and saw (among others) Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and went further to see not everything

was checked so I just hit the check all button went back to see and all works fine... simple as that....ironic for a simple person it appears

Thanks again and here's wishing all a very Merry Christmas & best wishes for the new year

thank yo so much

 

 

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FJR posted Dec 20 '19 at 10:14 am

Hi Euler,

[quote]No. The Default Identity attribution is a by folder feature.[/quote]

Sorry - as I described - you're partly wrong.

You may set default identity by folder, but obviously Pegasus already has the functionality to set default identity for a whole IMAP-Mailbox by setting it on mailboxname. As desribed this works very good. Despite you have set default identities for some folders in the mailbox, this setting works on all other folders in the mailbox.

The only problem is, that Pegasus doesn't save the setting for the mailbox. I would call it a little bug [;)]

[quote] If you plan to use a certain Identity for the whole IMAP account it is better select that account and work on[/quote]

I know how to use it - but for commodity reasons (people including me miss changing the identity far to much) and because the functionality is already implemeted, I would prefer David adding the missing save of configuration. I want him to do that, because in our environment (like in most business) there is no POP anymore. And Pegasus is the only mail program where I can't set default identity persistent for a IMAP-mailbox. More and more this will be a KO-criteria.

Editing and repairing STATE.PMJ  is no problem for me. [:)] I was hoping that there is exactly one missing entry for the default identity for the whole IMAP-mailbox. That's what I'm searching for.

[quote]I'm sure you have a very good reason to do so but I'm wondering why one would do that.[/quote]

I have 8 IMAP-mailboxes. 2 functional mailboxes (with multiple mailaliases) and 1 personal mailbox for job and 5 private mailboxes. All are accessed via IMAP (and most don't support POP). All of them have some form of webmailer too - and those are based on IMAP. It is necessary to have access to every mailbox despite of available mailclient or webmailer - or the computer where Pegasus (or any other mailclient) is running with a due to POP local mailbox on it's hardisk (mobile Pegasus is no choice). That's modern art using and handling mail - POP is antique and will not be the future - sorry.

[quote]There's also This server supports folders within folders (see help) IMAP option to consider[/quote]

The problem remains the same on any type of IMAP-Server and any type of folder support. The IMAP-Servers are Mercury (trays only), exchange (folders in folders), postfix and cyrrus (both configurable).

[quote]Of all little experience I have with IMAP usage (I keep it to a minimum) one I remember constantly is that "every one has your IMAP", and that means servers and clients[/quote]

In business it's very simple: my "boss" wants (in case I can't do it for some reasons) to have access to my business mails. This access may be essential for the company. The law on how this is possible in a legal manner defers from country to country - but at least it must be possible. So mails have to be at the servers of the company (in my case the university). It's the job of the company to limit access to my mailbox at IMAP-Server to me and authorized personal - and it's my job to ensure nobody unauthorized has access to any mailclient where mails may be cached local or due to saved password authorized connections to the IMAP-Server may be established automatically. So it's my job to delete any cache in local mailclient or webbrowsers if I use them for authorizing and reading mails.

In other words: there should be no mail local at any computer. Due to increasing use of mobile computers (means desktop, tablet, smartphone and so on) and increasing "loss" of those computers there is no way having mails, the answers on that mails and the folder structures only on that mobile computer.

[quote]IOW it is a poorly standardized protocol[/quote]

There is no need to discuss the quality of standardization of IMAP here - fact is, that it works nicely - with every IMAP-Server I know and have access and every mailclient.

Bye     Olaf

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jficklin posted Dec 19 '19 at 1:23 am

Thanks everyone for your efforts... Problem Solved!

 Awhile back the e-mail provider connected to my problem mailbox decided to drop POP3 and use only IMAP.  I created an IMAP profile, but had so many problems trying to get IMAP to work with this provider that I finally gave up, set all e-mail from this provider to forward to another provider I use that supports POP3, and had Pegasus retrieve my e-mail from the POP3 client.  In reading over all your replies, a reference to IMAP made me realize that the persistent folder problem began about the same time as the IMAP adventure.  I checked, and sure enough I still had an IMAP profile for the original e-mail provider entered for that mailbox in Pegaus.. It turns out that it was the IMAP profile that was opening the "folders" window.  After I eliminated the profile from IMAP in that mailbox on Pegasus, the persistent window disappeared.

Thanks again for all your suggestions... and research on my behalf.  Hope you all have a great holiday season.

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Brian Fluet posted Dec 16 '19 at 6:29 pm

[quote user="jficklin"]Could have saved myself some playing around if I had just been a little bit more patient waiting for your reply.[/quote]

There wouldn't have been any sense of accomplishment in that!  [:)]

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irelam posted Dec 14 '19 at 12:22 am

Click the Folders menu item.  You will see the Create a Folder. It has a drop down choice, and there you will see Unix MBOXs. Import and Export work.

Martin

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