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MailMigra for Pegasus anyone tried it with recent version?

[quote user="irelam"]

Happy to help.  Could you describe the problems you are seeing please.  I don't understand what you mean by "Native folder files". 

Just as some background I simply open folders (*.PMM files) as flat text files and extract each message into a separate file. The program is coded to ignore messages that are badly formatted, or more likely messages that are empty (file length zero).  If you want you could send me one of your problem folders to irelam@telus.net, and I will try to process it in diagnostic mode.  If I find that there is a repeatble problem I will try to code around it.

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By native folder file I just meant .PMM file.

Looks like your program is also set to ignore attachements greater than 5MB.

Some .PMM folder files are making NoSplit to abort with an "IO error 103"

I have been using pmail for 20 years. These folders are rather large files and contain personal stuff that I'd rather not share like that :-)

Because they contains thousands of messages, I have no idea which ones make NoSplit to abort with this IOerror 103. One of those .PMM file was creating the IO error right away without even converting a single message. After I copied the messages in a new folder. NoSplit was able to do most of these messages from that new folder. Then abort again with the same error.

Can you add a commandline switch to produce some logs that could help figuring what is going on?

[quote user="irelam"]<p>Happy to help.  Could you describe the problems you are seeing please.  I don't understand what you mean by "Native folder files".  </p><p>Just as some background I simply open folders (*.PMM files) as flat text files and extract each message into a separate file. The program is coded to ignore messages that are badly formatted, or more likely messages that are empty (file length zero).  If you want you could send me one of your problem folders to irelam@telus.net, and I will try to process it in diagnostic mode.  If I find that there is a repeatble problem I will try to code around it.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>By native folder file I just meant .PMM file.</p><p>Looks like your program is also set to ignore attachements greater than 5MB.</p><p>Some .PMM folder files are making NoSplit to abort with an "IO error 103"</p><p>I have been using pmail for 20 years. These folders are rather large files and contain personal stuff that I'd rather not share like that :-) </p><p>Because they contains thousands of messages, I have no idea which ones make NoSplit to abort with this IOerror 103. One of those .PMM file was creating the IO error right away without even converting a single message. After I copied the messages in a new folder. NoSplit was able to do most of these messages from that new folder. Then abort again with the same error.</p><p>Can you add a commandline switch to produce some logs that could help figuring what is going on? </p>

Hi guys,

 After countless devoted years as a Pegasus user and 5.0 nowhere to be seen. I now ready to move on.

 I`m not ready to lose my archives though... I came across this tool that apparently does wonders at exporting Pegasus emails in other format (MailMigra).

Anyone tried it on 4.70?

 I`m sad to have reach this point. Pegasus really had a good run. To bad the community was not supportive enough to keep it evolving.

<p>Hi guys,</p><p> After countless devoted years as a Pegasus user and 5.0 nowhere to be seen. I now ready to move on.</p><p> I`m not ready to lose my archives though... I came across this tool that apparently does wonders at exporting Pegasus emails in other format (MailMigra).</p><p>Anyone tried it on 4.70? </p><p> I`m sad to have reach this point. Pegasus really had a good run. To bad the community was not supportive enough to keep it evolving. </p>

Hallo,

you are right. It is really sad, that this e-mail client is dying. I am using it about 20 years. OK, people mostly use web browser, but i dont like it, i want my own offline e-mail storage.

I understand, that this is David Harris one-man-show or something like that and PM is not enough money for living.

But he could make some "kickstarter solution" or make prise for some functionalities/upgrades and users would help. But now - we dont know for what we should pay, how much, whene it will be done.

David, ask people, who wants Mercury, who wants Pegasus Mail, make your price for developing new versions.

Harry

<p>Hallo,</p><p>you are right. It is really sad, that this e-mail client is dying. I am using it about 20 years. OK, people mostly use web browser, but i dont like it, i want my own offline e-mail storage.</p><p>I understand, that this is David Harris one-man-show or something like that and PM is not enough money for living.</p><p>But he could make some "kickstarter solution" or make prise for some functionalities/upgrades and users would help. But now - we dont know for what we should pay, how much, whene it will be done.</p><p>David, ask people, who wants Mercury, who wants Pegasus Mail, make your price for developing new versions.</p><p>Harry </p>

I hear you... I'm not too found either of cloud everything.

I still like fat clients like pegasus who can move emails from the servers and stores it locally. So I can chose what I keep online and what I keep local/offline.

Things are changing. Many of my non IT friends only use SMS and Facebook to communicate... Emails and attachments are too much hassles.  The notion of privacy is fading out.

 Meanwhile Mailmigra is been working at converting my mails since early this afternoon. Jeez this thing is slow :-)

[quote user="Harry"]

Hallo,

you are right. It is really sad, that this e-mail client is dying. I am using it about 20 years. OK, people mostly use web browser, but i dont like it, i want my own offline e-mail storage.

I understand, that this is David Harris one-man-show or something like that and PM is not enough money for living.

But he could make some "kickstarter solution" or make prise for some functionalities/upgrades and users would help. But now - we dont know for what we should pay, how much, whene it will be done.

David, ask people, who wants Mercury, who wants Pegasus Mail, make your price for developing new versions.

Harry

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<p>I hear you... I'm not too found either of cloud everything.</p><p>I still like fat clients like pegasus who can move emails from the servers and stores it locally. So I can chose what I keep online and what I keep local/offline.</p><p>Things are changing. Many of my non IT friends only use SMS and Facebook to communicate... Emails and attachments are too much hassles.  The notion of privacy is fading out. </p><p> Meanwhile Mailmigra is been working at converting my mails since early this afternoon. Jeez this thing is slow :-) </p><p>[quote user="Harry"]</p><p>Hallo,</p><p>you are right. It is really sad, that this e-mail client is dying. I am using it about 20 years. OK, people mostly use web browser, but i dont like it, i want my own offline e-mail storage.</p><p>I understand, that this is David Harris one-man-show or something like that and PM is not enough money for living.</p><p>But he could make some "kickstarter solution" or make prise for some functionalities/upgrades and users would help. But now - we dont know for what we should pay, how much, whene it will be done.</p><p>David, ask people, who wants Mercury, who wants Pegasus Mail, make your price for developing new versions.</p><p>Harry </p>[/quote]

Me too: slightly weary of waiting for David Harris to update PM to version 5. I have been using this mail client for 19 years now and am very happy with it.

Interested in hearing about your MigraMail experience. How did it go? Which new client will you use?

Thanks for any feedback!

Regards.

Xavier

<p>Me too: slightly weary of waiting for David Harris to update PM to version 5. I have been using this mail client for 19 years now and am very happy with it. </p><p>Interested in hearing about your MigraMail experience. How did it go? Which new client will you use? </p><p>Thanks for any feedback!</p><p>Regards.</p><p>Xavier </p>

MailMigra 3.0 feedback.

 

The product doesn't convert my Pmail 4.70 mails in any outlook format I can use.

The only support "offer" I was able to get is via remote access to my computer. Otherwise, not a single working piece of advise from them in two weeks.

 Their self/online feedback  says works in minutes. In my case it takes 20h on a quite powerful computer running on fast SSDs to produce 80% junk and +-20% successful conversion.

 NOT RECOMMENDED

<p>MailMigra 3.0 feedback.</p><p> </p><p>The product doesn't convert my Pmail 4.70 mails in any outlook format I can use.</p><p>The only support "offer" I was able to get is via remote access to my computer. Otherwise, not a single working piece of advise from them in two weeks.</p><p> Their self/online feedback  says works in minutes. In my case it takes 20h on a quite powerful computer running on fast SSDs to produce 80% junk and +-20% successful conversion.</p><p> NOT RECOMMENDED </p>

Try just setting up an IMAP connection from Pegasus to your new email server.,  Make a test folder to correspond to your Pegasus folder and just copy the emails from the one to the other.  That seemed to work for me when I briefly flirted with the idea of using Lookout.  a short trial of Lookoput was enough to show up its serious shortcomings for the work I do!

Alternatively just have both clients open and copy messages from folder on one to folders on the other.

It will take some time but once you have started a batch copy off you can just leave it to get on with it.

 

<p>Try just setting up an IMAP connection from Pegasus to your new email server.,  Make a test folder to correspond to your Pegasus folder and just copy the emails from the one to the other.  That seemed to work for me when I briefly flirted with the idea of using Lookout.  a short trial of Lookoput was enough to show up its serious shortcomings for the work I do! Alternatively just have both clients open and copy messages from folder on one to folders on the other. It will take some time but once you have started a batch copy off you can just leave it to get on with it.</p><p> </p>

You might want to consider a utility called NotSplit that creates individual message files (with its attachments) from a Pegasus Mail folder (one folder at a time). It is located in

http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/utils/entry3962.aspx 

It will create individual CNM files and place them in your NewMail directory. From there you could rename them to what ever extension your target app wants, ie *.eml and import them.  Please note that your NewMail directory must be empty, and you have paused/disabled the Internet connection so that further new mail is not added to the NewMail directory. Also note that the original messages remain unaffected by this migration.

 The utility works quite fast , a 1000 message folder takes about a minute to process.

Martin

<p>You might want to consider a utility called NotSplit that creates individual message files (with its attachments) from a Pegasus Mail folder (one folder at a time). It is located in</p><p>http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/utils/entry3962.aspx  </p><p>It will create individual CNM files and place them in your NewMail directory. From there you could rename them to what ever extension your target app wants, ie *.eml and import them.  Please note that your NewMail directory must be empty, and you have paused/disabled the Internet connection so that further new mail is not added to the NewMail directory. Also note that the original messages remain unaffected by this migration. </p><p> The utility works quite fast , a 1000 message folder takes about a minute to process.</p><p>Martin </p>

Thanks for your reply.

 Will it keep the messages' properties (TO, FROM, DATE SENT, TITLE, etc...)?

[quote user="irelam"]

You might want to consider a utility called NotSplit that creates individual message files (with its attachments) from a Pegasus Mail folder (one folder at a time). It is located in

http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/utils/entry3962.aspx 

It will create individual CNM files and place them in your NewMail directory. From there you could rename them to what ever extension your target app wants, ie *.eml and import them.  Please note that your NewMail directory must be empty, and you have paused/disabled the Internet connection so that further new mail is not added to the NewMail directory. Also note that the original messages remain unaffected by this migration.

 The utility works quite fast , a 1000 message folder takes about a minute to process.

Martin

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<p>Thanks for your reply.</p><p> Will it keep the messages' properties (TO, FROM, DATE SENT, TITLE, etc...)? </p><p>[quote user="irelam"]</p><p>You might want to consider a utility called NotSplit that creates individual message files (with its attachments) from a Pegasus Mail folder (one folder at a time). It is located in</p><p>http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/utils/entry3962.aspx  </p><p>It will create individual CNM files and place them in your NewMail directory. From there you could rename them to what ever extension your target app wants, ie *.eml and import them.  Please note that your NewMail directory must be empty, and you have paused/disabled the Internet connection so that further new mail is not added to the NewMail directory. Also note that the original messages remain unaffected by this migration. </p><p> The utility works quite fast , a 1000 message folder takes about a minute to process.</p><p>Martin </p>[/quote]

Everything that was in the original mail message. The only exceptions are that:

1. Pegasus Mail annotation are not part of the original message

2. the X-PMFLAGS line will be transferred but will not be of any use as it is setting flags that only Pegasus Mail users would understand. (see Message properties) The only individual bit setting that might be useful is the sending of an acknowledgement to the originator that the message was received, and opened by the recipient, which was requested by the originator. Various mail systems have this feature for users on the same mail server like MsExchange. Most user recipients ignore this setting as it can be used by spammers to identify active users on a system after their email addresses have been trolled from other sources.

 

Let me know if you need any help etc trying this out

Martin (irelam@telus.net)

<p>Everything that was in the original mail message. The only exceptions are that:</p><p>1. Pegasus Mail annotation are not part of the original message</p><p>2. the X-PMFLAGS line will be transferred but will not be of any use as it is setting flags that only Pegasus Mail users would understand. (see Message properties) The only individual bit setting that might be useful is the sending of an acknowledgement to the originator that the message was received, and opened by the recipient, which was requested by the originator. Various mail systems have this feature for users on the same mail server like MsExchange. Most user recipients ignore this setting as it can be used by spammers to identify active users on a system after their email addresses have been trolled from other sources. </p><p> </p><p>Let me know if you need any help etc trying this out</p><p>Martin (irelam@telus.net) </p>

Hey Martin,

nosplit worked for singling every messages. I was hoping once separated MailMigra would be able to convert these messages but it still fails on too many to be usable.

So far, the only and repeating offer for support I got for MailMigra is installing a remote access client on my PC... It's ain't going to happen.

They are not even trying to figure what is going on. It looks like a single man shop. Which is not always a bad thing if you have a community to back you up :-)

I'm losing faith and patience and asked for a refund.

 Again, MaiMigra doesn't work for me. I don't know why so many messages are corrupted during the conversion and they are not helping to figure why. It's too bad because I would have spent all the time they need to help them having usable solution.

[quote user="irelam"]

Everything that was in the original mail message. The only exceptions are that:

1. Pegasus Mail annotation are not part of the original message

2. the X-PMFLAGS line will be transferred but will not be of any use as it is setting flags that only Pegasus Mail users would understand. (see Message properties) The only individual bit setting that might be useful is the sending of an acknowledgement to the originator that the message was received, and opened by the recipient, which was requested by the originator. Various mail systems have this feature for users on the same mail server like MsExchange. Most user recipients ignore this setting as it can be used by spammers to identify active users on a system after their email addresses have been trolled from other sources.

 

Let me know if you need any help etc trying this out

Martin (irelam@telus.net)

[/quote]
<p>Hey Martin,</p><p>nosplit worked for singling every messages. I was hoping once separated MailMigra would be able to convert these messages but it still fails on too many to be usable.</p><p>So far, the only and repeating offer for support I got for MailMigra is installing a remote access client on my PC... It's ain't going to happen.</p><p>They are not even trying to figure what is going on. It looks like a single man shop. Which is not always a bad thing if you have a community to back you up :-) </p><p>I'm losing faith and patience and asked for a refund.</p><p> Again, MaiMigra doesn't work for me. I don't know why so many messages are corrupted during the conversion and they are not helping to figure why. It's too bad because I would have spent all the time they need to help them having usable solution. </p><p>[quote user="irelam"]</p><p>Everything that was in the original mail message. The only exceptions are that:</p><p>1. Pegasus Mail annotation are not part of the original message</p><p>2. the X-PMFLAGS line will be transferred but will not be of any use as it is setting flags that only Pegasus Mail users would understand. (see Message properties) The only individual bit setting that might be useful is the sending of an acknowledgement to the originator that the message was received, and opened by the recipient, which was requested by the originator. Various mail systems have this feature for users on the same mail server like MsExchange. Most user recipients ignore this setting as it can be used by spammers to identify active users on a system after their email addresses have been trolled from other sources. </p><p> </p><p>Let me know if you need any help etc trying this out</p><p>Martin (irelam@telus.net) </p>[/quote]

What email client are you trying to import these messages to ?

Martin

<p>What email client are you trying to import these messages to ?</p><p>Martin </p>

Outlook 2010... I just sent you a PM when I realised that you might have been the creator of NoSplit :-)

The MailMigra team is now looking into my issue and they've made some progress. They released 1.4 which is doing much better on folders split into messages by the NoSplit utility. But still having problems with the native folder files.

I'm also experiencing some splitting issues with NoSplit and wonder if you might help me solve that part.

[quote user="irelam"]

What email client are you trying to import these messages to ?

Martin

[/quote]
<p>Outlook 2010... I just sent you a PM when I realised that you might have been the creator of NoSplit :-)</p><p>The MailMigra team is now looking into my issue and they've made some progress. They released 1.4 which is doing much better on folders split into messages by the NoSplit utility. But still having problems with the native folder files.</p><p>I'm also experiencing some splitting issues with NoSplit and wonder if you might help me solve that part. </p><p>[quote user="irelam"]</p><p>What email client are you trying to import these messages to ?</p><p>Martin </p>[/quote]

Happy to help.  Could you describe the problems you are seeing please.  I don't understand what you mean by "Native folder files". 

Just as some background I simply open folders (*.PMM files) as flat text files and extract each message into a separate file. The program is coded to ignore messages that are badly formatted, or more likely messages that are empty (file length zero).  If you want you could send me one of your problem folders to irelam@telus.net, and I will try to process it in diagnostic mode.  If I find that there is a repeatble problem I will try to code around it.

 Martin

<p>Happy to help.  Could you describe the problems you are seeing please.  I don't understand what you mean by "Native folder files".  </p><p>Just as some background I simply open folders (*.PMM files) as flat text files and extract each message into a separate file. The program is coded to ignore messages that are badly formatted, or more likely messages that are empty (file length zero).  If you want you could send me one of your problem folders to irelam@telus.net, and I will try to process it in diagnostic mode.  If I find that there is a repeatble problem I will try to code around it.</p><p> Martin </p>
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