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Pegasus copies to self crashing

I would appreciate any help or suggestions the Pmail community might offer. I am using Windows version 4.91. Just this evening, whenever I tried to go into the "copies to self" folder, it wouldn't load, just kept trying. I reindexed the folder. That didn't help. When I checked for consistency, it said there was an issue with the copies to self pmm (or pmi, can't remember now). So I deleted in both the pmi and the pmm the emails I had written that day, which were replies, thinking that they must be the culprit. Now I have three "copies to self" file. One has virtually nothing in it, just a test email I wrote to myself. The other two seem identical and have become massive, over 64000 messages (before it was around 50,000). When ever I try to get into either of those two massive folder, I can't. It just keeps trying to read them. Any suggestions?


Thanks,
Scott


I would appreciate any help or suggestions the Pmail community might offer. I am using Windows version 4.91. Just this evening, whenever I tried to go into the "copies to self" folder, it wouldn't load, just kept trying. I reindexed the folder. That didn't help. When I checked for consistency, it said there was an issue with the copies to self pmm (or pmi, can't remember now). So I deleted in both the pmi and the pmm the emails I had written that day, which were replies, thinking that they must be the culprit. Now I have three "copies to self" file. One has virtually nothing in it, just a test email I wrote to myself. The other two seem identical and have become massive, over 64000 messages (before it was around 50,000). When ever I try to get into either of those two massive folder, I can't. It just keeps trying to read them. Any suggestions? Thanks, Scott

I have never heard of anyone trying to delete mail data or its related index information from within .pmm and .pmi. I don't know if that can successfully be done.


As for the copyself issue, the 50,000 number makes me wonder if the .pmm file of the copyself folder reached the 2GB file size limit. This is the limit for a 32 bit process like Pegasus Mail.


Here is what I suggest first. In the Pegasus Mail folder list, right-click on each of the "copies to self" folders then select "Recover deleted space". This may not do anything. Right-click again on each and select "Folder information". Make note of the filename for each then use a file explorer to look in the mailbox directory and see if any are at or near 2GB in size.


Forum members: Martin had produced the utility NOTSPLIT that was handy for breaking down a 2GB folder that couldn't be opened within Pegasus Mail. Since his programs are not longer available, do you know of any other methods of dealing with a 2GB .pmm outside of Pegasus Mail?


I have never heard of anyone trying to delete mail data or its related index information from within .pmm and .pmi. I don't know if that can successfully be done. As for the copyself issue, the 50,000 number makes me wonder if the .pmm file of the copyself folder reached the 2GB file size limit. This is the limit for a 32 bit process like Pegasus Mail. Here is what I suggest first. In the Pegasus Mail folder list, right-click on each of the "copies to self" folders then select "Recover deleted space". This may not do anything. Right-click again on each and select "Folder information". Make note of the filename for each then use a file explorer to look in the mailbox directory and see if any are at or near 2GB in size. Forum members: Martin had produced the utility NOTSPLIT that was handy for breaking down a 2GB folder that couldn't be opened within Pegasus Mail. Since his programs are not longer available, do you know of any other methods of dealing with a 2GB .pmm outside of Pegasus Mail?

Two things.
Recall once that reindexing a folder would not work.
Did find that I could get it to work, by renaming the PMI file to PMIx
Then did a reindex, and since there was no PMI file for it to try to fix, it just created a new PMI file, and that solved problem.


On the other side, I often copy the COPYSELF folder messages to a new folder, and clear out a lot of useless ones.


So don't have issues with the 2G size, and searches can be faster.


235K Mar  5  2018 COPY1314.PMI
11M Dec 27 11:36 COPY1314.PMM
317K Feb 17 2023 COPY2000.PMI
5.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2000.PMM
132K Feb 17 2023 COPY2001.PMI
3.0M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2001.PMM
99K Mar 5 2018 COPY2002.PMI
2.5M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2002.PMM
113K Mar 5 2018 COPY2003.PMI
2.4M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2003.PMM
103K Mar 5 2018 COPY2004.PMI
2.2M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2004.PMM
153K Mar 5 2018 COPY2005.PMI
4.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2005.PMM
114K Mar 5 2018 COPY2006.PMI
3.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2006.PMM
157K Mar 5 2018 COPY2007.PMI
8.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2007.PMM
137K Mar 5 2018 COPY2008.PMI
4.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2008.PMM
123K Mar 5 2018 COPY2009.PMI
5.8M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2009.PMM
115K Mar 5 2018 COPY2010.PMI
3.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2010.PMM
143K Mar 5 2018 COPY2011.PMI
4.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2011.PMM
130K Mar 5 2018 COPY2012.PMI
6.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2012.PMM
110K Aug 16 2021 COPY2015.PMI
3.6M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2015.PMM
142K Sep 5 2020 COPY2016.PMI
7.1M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2016.PMM
189K Sep 5 2020 COPY2017.PMI
24M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2017.PMM
124K Feb 1 06:06 COPY2018.PMI
18M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2018.PMM
45K Aug 22 2023 COPY2019.PMI
5.5M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2019.PMM
69K Aug 22 2023 COPY2020.PMI
5.6M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2020.PMM
97K Aug 22 2023 COPY2021.PMI
9.4M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2021.PMM
187K Aug 22 2023 COPY2022.PMI
16M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2022.PMM
442K Feb 3 04:55 COPYSELF.PMI
36M Feb 3 04:55 COPYSELF.PMM
Two things. Recall once that reindexing a folder would not work. Did find that I could get it to work, by renaming the PMI file to PMIx Then did a reindex, and since there was no PMI file for it to try to fix, it just created a new PMI file, and that solved problem. On the other side, I often copy the COPYSELF folder messages to a new folder, and clear out a lot of useless ones. So don't have issues with the 2G size, and searches can be faster. ```` 235K Mar 5 2018 COPY1314.PMI 11M Dec 27 11:36 COPY1314.PMM 317K Feb 17 2023 COPY2000.PMI 5.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2000.PMM 132K Feb 17 2023 COPY2001.PMI 3.0M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2001.PMM 99K Mar 5 2018 COPY2002.PMI 2.5M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2002.PMM 113K Mar 5 2018 COPY2003.PMI 2.4M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2003.PMM 103K Mar 5 2018 COPY2004.PMI 2.2M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2004.PMM 153K Mar 5 2018 COPY2005.PMI 4.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2005.PMM 114K Mar 5 2018 COPY2006.PMI 3.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2006.PMM 157K Mar 5 2018 COPY2007.PMI 8.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2007.PMM 137K Mar 5 2018 COPY2008.PMI 4.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2008.PMM 123K Mar 5 2018 COPY2009.PMI 5.8M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2009.PMM 115K Mar 5 2018 COPY2010.PMI 3.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2010.PMM 143K Mar 5 2018 COPY2011.PMI 4.7M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2011.PMM 130K Mar 5 2018 COPY2012.PMI 6.9M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2012.PMM 110K Aug 16 2021 COPY2015.PMI 3.6M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2015.PMM 142K Sep 5 2020 COPY2016.PMI 7.1M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2016.PMM 189K Sep 5 2020 COPY2017.PMI 24M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2017.PMM 124K Feb 1 06:06 COPY2018.PMI 18M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2018.PMM 45K Aug 22 2023 COPY2019.PMI 5.5M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2019.PMM 69K Aug 22 2023 COPY2020.PMI 5.6M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2020.PMM 97K Aug 22 2023 COPY2021.PMI 9.4M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2021.PMM 187K Aug 22 2023 COPY2022.PMI 16M Dec 27 11:36 COPY2022.PMM 442K Feb 3 04:55 COPYSELF.PMI 36M Feb 3 04:55 COPYSELF.PMM ````

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