[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]If the PMail and Mercury mailboxes are split then you setup the POP3 downloads using the PMail POP3 setup.[/quote]How do I split them?

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]If you want PMail to send via the built-in mailer instead of the Mercury queue then setup the Tools | Internet options |  Sending (SMTP) to use the built-in mailer regardless of address.[/quote]Yes, that's what I meant.

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Hi!

I would like to download messages from my the inbox of my ESP's IMAP server to Mercury, and then have a POP3 client download them from Mercury.  Can this be done?

Thanks.

C.  

Are you sure that your inbox at the ISP cannot be reached by POP3 as well as via IMAP? Often both options are available. Otherwise, I don't think Mercury will do this.

You could get Pegasus (or any other mail client) to automatically and regularly check the IMAP box and instantly forward all messages to another Mercury inbox (which would then be available via POP3).

[quote user="Sharkfin"] Are you sure that your inbox at the ISP cannot be reached by POP3 as well as via IMAP?[/quote]It can, but if I download directly by POP3, the POP3 client will download ALL of the new mail from the mail server, including the semi-junk which I have already had diverted to other folders.  I want to use IMAP to download only what remains in the main Inbox.

[quote user="Sharkfin"] You could get Pegasus (or any other mail client) to automatically and regularly check the IMAP box and instantly forward all messages to another Mercury inbox (which would then be available via POP3).[/quote]This sounds like it would do what I want it to.  How do I tell Pegasus (which I'm already using) to do forward to another Mercury inbox?

Thanks again.

C. 

Hmm. I forgot that filtering rules do not run automatically on IMAP folders. They can only run when you open or close a folder yourself because an IMAP inbox is not covered by the regular "new mail" filtering rules. So my idea would work but not unattended.

If your IMAP server has filters already running which move the "semi-junk" to other folders, can you automatically forward things that are not "semi-junk" to Mercury?

This sounds like it would do what I want it to. How do I tell Pegasus (which I'm already using) to do forward to another Mercury inbox?

You do not.  You tell Mercury to forward all the spam to the other account using global rules.  I use both the Spamhalter and/or POPFileD headers to do this on my Mercury installations and it works quite well at keeping the junk out of the users new mail directories.  You can also send the mail triggered by content control off to this other account.

Let me see if I understand what you guys are saying:

I now have an email account at Cassandra@mydomain.com where, after all of the spam-filtering, I have good mail which I want to download into Pegasus all the time and not-quite-junk which I don't need to look at instantly, and which I don't want to download into Pegasus whenever I download my mail.  And I also want to use POP3 for another reason.

What you're saying that I should do is to download my mail from the external server to Mercury, and use Mercury rules similar to the ones I have now on my external server to divide the mail among two local users, Cassy1 (who gets important mail which she downloads to Pegasus several times a day) and Cassy2 (which I guess also gets viewed and sorted by webmail or Pegasus every day or two or three).

In that case, I suppose that the original download can also be by POP3, if that turns out to be more convenient.  Right?

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What you're saying that I should do is to download my mail from the

external server to Mercury, and use Mercury rules similar to the ones I

have now on my external server to divide the mail among two local

users, Cassy1 (who gets important mail which she downloads to Pegasus

several times a day) and Cassy2 (which I guess also gets viewed and

sorted by webmail or Pegasus every day or two or three).

You got it.  It's really easy if they have something in the headers to be used to send the mail to the two different users.  However, you are really only filtering to remove the non-important mail to the second account in most cases since you want anything that is not filtered to be delivered to the important account.

Another Thomas Stephenson triumph! :)

Don't you love that there's always three ways to skin a cat (and Thomas knows at least two of them)?

OK, I've got my Mercury/Pegasus setup BASICALLY working in both directions, and now I'll start my questions to get it USEFULLY working.  I'll try not to ask more than 100,000 per day, unless there's a special reason.

1.  Merc:  What's the difference between 'Mercury Core Module|Poll for new mail every' and 'MercuryD POP3 Client|Check every'?  Where do I tell Merc how often to poll the external server?

2.  I want Mercury to poll the external server regularly, but I want the messages to appear in the Pegasus New Mail folder only when I hit the Pegasus download button.  How do I do this?

3.  It looks like my Pegasus filters will be a good start for building my Mercury filters.  How do I import them from Pegasus to Mercury?

4.  How do I tell Pegasus to use Mercury for incoming mail only?

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1.  Merc:  What's the difference between 'Mercury Core Module|Poll

for new mail every' and 'MercuryD POP3 Client|Check every'?  Where do I

tell Merc how often to poll the external server?

Mercury is polling the queue for jobs, MercuryD is polling POP3 servers for downloads.

2.  I want Mercury to poll the external server regularly, but I want

the messages to appear in the Pegasus New Mail folder only when I hit

the Pegasus download button.  How do I do this?

MercuryD will download and deliver the mail to a users local mail directory.  In the direct mode where PMail and Mercury are using the same mail directories this means the the delivery in mercury is the same as delivery in PMail.  If the PMail and Mercury mailboxes are split then you setup the POP3 downloads using the PMail POP3 setup.

3.  It looks like my Pegasus filters will be a good start for

building my Mercury filters.  How do I import them from Pegasus to

Mercury?

Copy the winrules.pmc to the rules.mer  using an ASCII editor like Notepad.

4.  How do I tell Pegasus to use Mercury for incoming mail only?

Not sure what you are asking.. If you want PMail to send via the built-in mailer instead of the Mercury queue then setup the Tools | Internet options |  Sending (SMTP) to use the built-in mailer regardless of address.

Use in preference to LAN mailer for Internet mail:  This option is only meaningful when you are running Pegasus Mail on a Mercury system. Checking this control tells Pegasus Mail to use its own built-in mail delivery routines instead of passing your outgoing mail to the Mercury queue for processing. If you leave this box unchecked, then Pegasus Mail will always use the Mercury queue in preference to its own SMTP delivery routines if available on the Mercury system to which you are connected. The setting of this control is ignored when you run Pegasus Mail in a non-Mercury environment.
 

Use for all outgoing mail, regardless of address:  Usually when you enter an address such as "DAVID", which has no domain portion, Pegasus Mail regards it as a local address and attempts to deliver it to the user based on the assumption that he can be found on the machine you are using. If you are the only person who uses your computer, however, then there will be no other users on your system and this assumption will not be valid. Checking this control tells Pegasus Mail to pass all mail to the remote host for processing and not to presume that any addresses are local to your machine. You should only check this control if you are the only person who uses your machine.