anyone any other ideas?  

I have downloaded Pegasus mail and it looks very good, however before I go any further I have 2 questions.

1/ Will Pegasus work on an XP and Vista home networked system where the Pegasus storage folder is on a shared folder on the XP machine.

2/ How do I import all my Outlook or Outlook Express emails both received and sent and also my contacts list into Pegasus.

I would appreciate your advise.

kevsim

> I have downloaded Pegasus mail and it looks very good, however before I go any further I have 2 questions.
>
> 1/  Will Pegasus work on an XP and Vista home networked system where
>     the Pegasus storage folder is on a shared folder on the XP
>     machine.

Yes.  

1.  Install WinPmail in the multiuser mode on the "server".  Use c:\pmail
    for the program; c:\pmail\mail for the mail directories.

2.  Run PCONFIG.exe from the WinPMail program directory and change the HOME and
    NEW mail directory specification to the \\server\vol\pmail\mail\~8
    format.

3.  Go to the remote workstations and install a shortcut to the common
    program.


> 2/  How do I import all my Outlook or Outlook Express emails both
>     received and sent and also my contacts list into Pegasus. I would
>     appreciate your advise. kevsim

For the Outlook Express folders try DbxConv. This is a utility which is
designed to convert Mail (not news) folders from Outlook Express DBX
folders to standard MBX files importable by almost any mail program.  
Pegasus Mail can read these *.MBX files directly, you simply point at the
directory containing the MBX files using the "Add mailbox to list".
http://people.freenet.de/ukrebs/dbxconv.html

For the Outlook folder there is a utility called PM2MSN32.exe from Martin
Ireland that can convert the Outlook folders to Pegasus Mail message files.   
PM2MSM32 is a specialized 32bit Mapi client that interfaces directly with
Microsoft MsExchange/Outlook (or any other Mapi mail server).  It extracts
the content of the InBox to individual text files that can be imported to other
mail systems such as Pegasus Mail.  In the case of Pegasus Mail it puts
CNM files into the new mail directory and then you can put these into a
separate folder.  http://www3.telus.net/public/irelam/

For the address books use Dawn, created by Boris Zakharin

Dawn 5, created by Boris Zakharin

Dawn works with the following programs:

    * Becky! -- Known to work with versions 2.00.08, 2.21.03
    * Corel WordPerfect Address Book 8.x
    * Eudora -- Known to work with versions 3.0, 4.3, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 6.2
    * ExecMail / Simeon
    * Forté Agent -- Known to work with version 4.0
    * Internet Explorer / Outlook Express / Windows Address Book (WAB) 4.0 - 6.0 -- Known to
       work with versions 4.0, 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0
    * Juno 2.0 - 5.0 -- Known to work with versions 2.0.11, 4.3.09, 4.3.11, and 5.0.33
    * Mozilla (Seamonkey) -- Known to work with versions 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9.2, 0.9.3, 0.9.7, 1.0,
      1.2, 1.3, 1.6, 1.7
    * Mozilla Thunderbird -- Known to work with version 1.0.2
    * Netscape 3.0 - 7.1 -- Known to work with versions 3.0, 3.03, 4.0, 4.7, 4.78, 6.0, 6.01, 6.1,
       6.2, 6.21, 7.0, 7.1 (Netscape 8 does not have an address book)
    * MS Outlook 98 / 2000 / 2002 / 2003
    * Opera -- Known to work with versions 5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 7.0, 7.23, 8.01, 8.02
    * Palm support through Palm Desktop (read only) -- Known to work with versions 3.01, 4.0,
    * Pegasus Mail -- Known to work with version 3.12b, 4.01, 4.12a, 4.21c, 4.51
    * Pine (PC and UNIX) -- Mailing Lists not supported
    * Other programs which can use/import/export LDAP/LDIF, vCard (VCF), Comma Separated  
       Value (CSV), plain text, one per line or comma separated formats or store addresses in a
       text file suitable for extraction
    
http://mysite.verizon.net/zakharin/software/Dawn/

And finally if cost is not a problem here are a couple of commercial programs to do this  type of conversion.

Aid4mail
       http://www.aid4mail.com/

Transend
       http://www.transend.com/

You might want to check out the converters available at the following site as well.
       http://www.emailman.com/conversion/#mboxwin

I'll hook on to this thread.  I have now a local Pegasus mail installation (since 1999), but want to move it to my NAS to be able to read mail from different PC's.  Can I simply move the pmail dir and all subdirs to the NAS, and then run the PConfig.exe like discribed above, and then set up the link on the work stations using wssetup.exe?

related: can I then use win XP's "off-line folders" to use pmail on my laptop when not at home? (yes, I'll make sure no-one else will then use the home copy of pmail)  will the mail be syncronised OK?

OK, I took the plunge and moved my entire directory from my harddrive to my NAS.  I mapped the mail share to the P: drive, so now everything should be in P:\PMAIL

next, I ran pconfig.exe to move the mailbox and the new mail folder to P:\pmail\mail

and then started pmail..  not there yet..  went into pmail.ini and replaced all instances of c:\pmail with p:\pmail

now we are almost there, but not quite...  missing my public folders.  now where was that again...  maibe the state.pmj file..   so went in replaced all instances of c:\pmail with p:\pmail  but still no public folders [:S]  so, did the unexpected and started reading the help [:)] and found the public folders in the tools section of the pmail menu, changed c:\pmail to p:\pmail and restarted pmail..  and all appears to working like it should, incl mail filtering rules (except that pmail just crashed when I wanted to reply....)

also on the laptop it works fine (only a lot slower than before (compared to HD installation)...  anyone some good tips to speed up pmail?)

well, on some occasions, Pegasus is trying to access some files, and it takes too long, causing Pegasus to crash, see the below log after a crash when I tried to print a message:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1005
Date: 15.9.2010
Time: 23:34:17
User: N/A
Computer: HPLAPTOP
Description:
Windows cannot access the file \\192.168.1.152\pmail\PMAIL\HTS32.DLL for one of the following reasons: there is a problem with the network connection, the disk that the file is stored on, or the storage drivers installed on this computer; or the disk is missing. Windows closed the program HTML Add-on because of this error.

Program: HTML Add-on
File: \\192.168.1.152\pmail\PMAIL\HTS32.DLL

where are your printer drivers located?  There is a good chance you need to install a local print driver such as the Generic Text, or a PDFWriter driver to get rid of these timing problems.

printer drivers (and all other system stuff) is locally.  only thing changed is the location of Pegasus

in general: Pegasus starts very slow now, takes a minute or so to load

just a short update.  

Pegasus is no longer crashing, but still slow with some operations.  starting the program is one of them, and moving files to the trash is another.  emptying the trash is not slow.  also I noticed that if I put the PC on standby, Pegasus will crash silently when the PC resumes from standby.

I really need help on this: the program is very very slow, only starting it (from clicking the shortcut on the desktop to pmail open) takes 85 seconds, and opening folders is very slow, deleting messages even worse.

And that is on my desktop machine with a cabled connection to the LAN, if I try the same on my laptop on wlan, it is even slower (with frequent crashes).  so there must be some link with the network speed. 

[quote user="Henkjan"]

I really need help on this: the program is very very slow, only starting it (from clicking the shortcut on the desktop to pmail open) takes 85 seconds, and opening folders is very slow, deleting messages even worse.

And that is on my desktop machine with a cabled connection to the LAN, if I try the same on my laptop on wlan, it is even slower (with frequent crashes).  so there must be some link with the network speed. 

[/quote]

If you have your default printer defined locally (as suggested by Irelam a few posts back in this thread)  then you might want to check that the Startup Directory defined in Pmail.ini points to the current location of your mail files. This entry can be found in the [Pegasus Mail for Windows] section in Pmail.ini

 I had similar delays on both desktop and laptop systems when this line pointed to an old Pegasus location (D-drive). 

Example:  Startup directory                         = C:\PMAIL\mail 

Hope this helps.

The startup dir may also be defined on the icon properties if one is being used. Both must be checked.

[quote user="Jerry Wise"]The startup dir may also be defined on the icon properties if one is being used. Both must be checked.
[/quote]

I think this is incorrect.  The icon specification determines the default directory when the program opens.  The .ini file directs Pegasus to look for its mail directory in a specific location.  The two are not really related.  

I changed it (it was the shared documents folder on the C drive, and yes that does exist), not noticing much difference.  starting pmail was a bit quicker, but still very slow. other actions (see examples below) still the same.

But all other operations are also extremely slow, just opening a mail message (plain text, 5k in size) takes 5 seconds between double click and that the message is displayed on the screen.  Other example: I have a rule on the junk mail folder, which deletes all messages older than a week on folder close; so when I close the folder, it takes approx 1 second for each message that gets moved to the trash. Retrieved mail from the server (pop3) also takes very long to get filtered into the right folders. The only thing still fast is emptying the trash (rule on folder close).  And all this was no issue with the local (on C:) installation. 

just downloaded and installed 4.61, but no change in speed 

> I changed it (it was the shared documents folder on the C drive, and yes that does exist), not noticing much difference. starting pmail was
> a bit quicker, but still very slow. other actions (see examples below) still the same.
>
> But all other operations are also extremely slow, just opening a mail message (plain text, 5k in size) takes 5 seconds between double click
> and that the message is displayed on the screen. Other example: I have a rule on the junk mail folder, which deletes all messages older than
> a week on folder close; so when I close the folder, it takes approx 1 second for each message that gets moved to the trash. Retrieved mail
> from the server (pop3) also takes very long to get filtered into the right folders. The only thing still fast is emptying the trash (rule
> on folder close). And all this was no issue with the local (on C:) installation.

Here's something you might try using RegEdit.  It's actually very easy to do and for me it fixed the one second pause when working with the mail store on a Win2K type
server.  You need to create a new DWORD OplocksDisabled and then set it to one. You can do this on the Windows server as well to turn off OPLOCKS for all.  

Configuring opportunistic locking in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;296264

1.     Use REGEDIT and find the following registry entry.  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE | System | CurrentControlSet | Services | MRXSmb | Parameters

2.    Select Edit | New | DWORD value

3.    Enter OplocksDisabled for the value name and 1 (Disabled) for the value data.  The default is zero (not disabled)

4.    Exit REGEDIT and reboot your system.  

You can also deny the granting of opportunistic locks on the server by setting the DWORD "EnableOplocks" registry entry to value of zero (Disabled) in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE | SYSTEM | CurrentControlSet | Services | LanmanServer | Parameters

Note  The EnableOplocks value configures Windows-based servers (including Workstations sharing files) to allow or deny opportunistic locks on local files. The default for EnableOplocks is 1 (Enabled).

I disabled oplocks on my NAS, and also added the DWORD with value 1 to the registry of the client PC.  starting pmail did not improve, maybe even slower. (the 1st 30 seconds everyting froze on my PC, even the system tray clock did not advance (mine shows seconds).  opening individual messages appears somewhat faster

During the startup, the system is redlining, with process "avp.exe", which is my antivirus sw (Kaspersky). I have had this AV also when I had pmail on the local HD, so did not suspect it, but could it be that it does a firmer check on files opened from a network share than from a local disk?

[quote user="Henkjan"]

I disabled oplocks on my NAS, and also added the DWORD with value 1 to the registry of the client PC.  starting pmail did not improve, maybe even slower. (the 1st 30 seconds everyting froze on my PC, even the system tray clock did not advance (mine shows seconds).  opening individual messages appears somewhat faster

During the startup, the system is redlining, with process "avp.exe", which is my antivirus sw (Kaspersky). I have had this AV also when I had pmail on the local HD, so did not suspect it, but could it be that it does a firmer check on files opened from a network share than from a local disk?

[/quote]

I would suggest telling Kaspersky to NOT check email. This is a settable parameter. I always run with it disabled, as I just don't open attachments that I don't recognize without checking them manually.  

[quote user="jss1941"][quote user="Henkjan"]I disabled oplocks on my NAS, and also added the DWORD with value 1 to the registry of the client PC.  starting pmail did not improve, maybe even slower. (the 1st 30 seconds everyting froze on my PC, even the system tray clock did not advance (mine shows seconds).  opening individual messages appears somewhat faster

During the startup, the system is redlining, with process "avp.exe", which is my antivirus sw (Kaspersky). I have had this AV also when I had pmail on the local HD, so did not suspect it, but could it be that it does a firmer check on files opened from a network share than from a local disk?[/quote]I would suggest telling Kaspersky to NOT check email. This is a settable parameter. I always run with it disabled, as I just don't open attachments that I don't recognize without checking them manually.  [/quote]

It's not during retrieving mail, but during the program start-up that is redlines....