Michael:  I've found an example that I can reproduce.  Since it involves an actual reply email that I'm composing, I will send it to you privately.

David

I don't know if a different version of TER has been used in PMail 4.52 and especially 4.61, but text insertion within existing paragraphs of new text that I'm writing has been faulty perhaps 50%-75% of the time.  The problem I've experienced (and it has been worst in the latest PMail version 4.61) is that, as I'm typing new text which forces new wraparounds, TER quite often inserts the latest text somewhere else than where the cursor had been previously positioned for the next character(s) to be typed.  The textual mess created by this behavior then requires extra effort to clean up and retype.  Similar behavior has ALWAYS been a part of my experience with TER, but nowhere near as bad as with the latest version or two of PMail.  I hope this can be fixed soon!

Harvey

Thanks for this very clearly expressed point.  In my experience so far with 4.61 it's no worse than in 4.52, and for a little while I even dared to hope it had been fixed.  It hasn't.  It's the most infuriating bug in PMail as far as I'm concerned.  I've posted about the unpredictable text insertion point in the past (less cogently than Harvey), so this is a repeat whinge.  Anyway, two voices now in this thread.  Please make it a priority for fixing.

David

[quote user="David_himself"]Anyway, two voices now in this thread.  Please make it a priority for fixing.[/quote]

There are at least two problems with this:

1. It appears to be a vary rare event which none of the testers can duplicate: If you can provide a step by step for recreating it there might be a chance for fixing, otherwise I regard this as impossible.
2. The TER editor is a third party tool which can't easily be modified, although this is not impossible. Maybe the new version provided by an anonymous donator already fixes it, but if so it would be by chance, I guess, and we cannot confirm this ourselves.

Thanks for this, Michael.  Of course, it's precisely one of those bugs which is difficult to reproduce, so I understand your weary frustration.  If I knew exactly when it was going to happen, I would have learnt how to avoid it.  All I can say is, it occurs - but only sporadically - when you go back into a paragraph and try to insert new text in mid-para.  You look up and find your new insertion is displaced to another position in the same line - often you have typed a whole sentence in the middle of an existing word rather than where the insertion point was when you started.  (I am a fast looking-at-the-keyboard typist;  no doubt if I could touch-type while looking at the screen I would spot the problem immediately.)

You mention a new version of TER given by a donor.  Is that already in use in PMail 4.61 or is it due to appear in version 5?

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David

[quote user="David_himself"]You mention a new version of TER given by a donor.  Is that already in use in PMail 4.61 or is it due to appear in version 5?[/quote]

All I can say is that it's not part of the 4.61 release, everything else is unpredictable. BTW: I know about a similar issue happening to me, but this is for sure caused by accidentally hitting the touchpad of my notebook with its rather sensitive settings: Are you absolutely sure this isn't the case for you?

>> All I can say is that it's not part of the

4.61 release, everything else is unpredictable.  BTW: I know about a

similar issue happening to me, but this is for sure caused by

accidentally hitting the touchpad of my notebook with its rather

sensitive settings:  Are you absolutely sure this isn't the case for

you? 

I've had a different TER text

editor frustration for at least the last couple of years:  while

chugging along, making edits in preexisting text, every so often TER, on

its own, just toggles from insert mode over to typeover mode, and

starts overwriting existing text.  Never the reverse, however. 

Not reliably duplicable / duplicatable (if that's a word, in English), and for a while I thought it was me.  It isn't.  I've just learned to live with it, given the understood provenance of the editor and why it's being used in PMail, but it *is* one of those "annoyances".