adding email addresses to autofilter folders

Spencer7

posted Apr 26 '11 at 3:37 am

    "You can always edit the CFDEFS.PM file with an ASCII editor
    even though it says you    should not edit the file. ;-) The e-mail
    addresses make it pretty obvious how it's done. The folder name
    is the internal folder name from the *.PMM folder file."

I agree that editing the file is simple, but it always causes an error in the buffers, buf1 and buf2, when I edit the file manually. I guess if you want to put up with error messages, then it would be fine editing the file. However, editing the file can cause more than one folder to have the same email address. If the program can correct that error and the buffer errors can be corrected, then it would be no problem editing the file manually. I still think that adding the email addresses manually option should be added to the program to make it better.

    "Why do you attribute this to autofiltering?"

I attribute the error in the buffers to autofiltering, because the error disappears when all of the autofiltering attributes for every folder are turned off, and the error does not reappear after they are turned back on and the email addresses are added back again by moving the emails back into each folder again. I guess that it could be indirectly causing the error, and the error could be in the program sections dealing with the buffers.

    "It's called AUTOfiltering. Adding addresses manually kind of
    defeats the object, don't you think? Add new addresses by
    dragging someone's message to a folder as and when they
    mail you, not in advance."

I state again that the term is autoFILTERING and not autoADDRESSING. The term applies to the program automatically filtering incoming emails to user defined folders. The term does not have any reference to how the email addresses are added to each folder so that the filtering can take place.

    "On your toolbar (right hand side) you should have the
    IERenderer icon (Pegasus superimposed in IE)."

I do not use Internet Explorer. I have found that to many skilled programmers waist their skill programming trojans that install themselves on your computer through websites that takes advantage of the loopholes that are prevalent in Internet Explorer. I was constantly getting trojans and viruses installed when I used IE and it happened even when I used Kaspersky and AVG which are two of the best. I now use CometBird and AVG Internet Security and I have not had a problem in over 4 years.

    "I was surprised that you could not see that Autofiltering is
    no more than a small, helpful addition to the program. It is not
    intended to replace the main filtering system, which is the place
    to go for large-scale or complex filtering."

Any moron can see that it is an addition to the program. However, I would not agree that it is a small addition. When you manually move an email into an autofiltering folder and the email address is added to that folder's database, that action overrides all other filtering settings. Those emails will always go to that folder no matter what any previous settings with the referred to large-scale system had already been established. If those emails would have been sent to the spam folder, they will now go to the newly established autofiltering folder. In my book that does not make the system a small addition, but a large scale replacement that takes over, and the normal or non-autofiltering systems only apply to the email addresses that are not affected by the autofiltering system. That is not small.

    "Autofiltering IS automatic in adding e-mail addresses to its
    filtering list. Whenever you move a message to a folder that has
    Autofiltering enabled, it will learn the address of the sender and
    automatically move all future mail to that folder (outgoing as well
    as incoming). It is a set-and-forget system."

As I said previously autofiltering deals with filtering. Moving an email to a folder is just the way that the programmer decided was the way to add the email addresses to each folder. The fact that the email address is learned automatically has nothing to do with the filtering, and you are still manually moving the email to the folder. I believe that the program could be greatly enhanced by allowing the users to manually add email addresses in other ways as well. As for the program handling outgoing as well as incoming, you are mistaken. Try moving some emails along with the copies of your reply emails to the new email folder and see what happiness. You will see that the incoming emails are moved right back to their folder, but the copies of your replies will remain in the new email folder.

    "As with any automatic system, it pays to give the user a chance
    to override, maintain or disable it. Hence the inclusion of the ability
    to remove addresses. Thomas has shown that you can manually
    edit the appropriate file should you want to do things manually, but
    really I fail to see why, if you wanted that level of control, you would
    try to 'force' the Autofiltering system rather than use standard filters.
    Wrong tool for the job."

I have several disagreements with this statement. For one, if the user is given the option of maintaining the email addresses by removing unwanted emails, then why not be able to move an entry from one folder to another, or simply add someone's email address to a folder even though you have not yet received an email from them. It would make adding an entire list a lot easier. Two, manually editing the file causes errors to occur in the program. Three, I fail to see why you consider manually adding an email address to the system would be forcing the autofiltering system. It would just be simply giving the user another way of adding addresses, which would make the system stronger. Four, how would it be the wrong tool for the job? If you have acquired a list of email addresses and some of those addresses are already in the system, and you want all of those addresses to go a specific folder. They how are you going to find those emails, if you still have them? And how are you going to get the system to send those emails to that particular folder? The autofiltering system overrides the others, so how are you going to get the ones already in the system to go to the new folder? And five, how is it the wrong tool for the job when the autofiltering system overrides the others? It seems to me that it is the perfect tool for the job.

I do not understand why such a simple statement as adding email manually to the autofiltering system would cause such controversy and ridicule, when it would obviously make the program much stronger and user friendly. My God, if you do not want to add them manually, then don't. That does not mean that the rest of us do not want the ability to do so. It would make my work much easier, especially since I research and collect evidence against fraudulent emailers. So why does anyone's opinion about a system make it wrong for others to want the system to be improved? I was under the impression that Pegasus was supposed to be the program for the users, all users. Not just a select few. I have found it to be a very useful program, but what is the use if you have to send an email to yourself for every email address that you want to be entered in an autofiltering address. Can you imagine sending 5,000 emails to yourself, just to get those addresses to be filtered to a particular folder. That is ridiculous. That is why adding them manually would greatly benefit the program. If you do not want to use the ability, then don't, but do not deprive others of it.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "You can always edit the CFDEFS.PM file with an ASCII editor &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; even though it says you&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; should not edit the file.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; The e-mail &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; addresses make it pretty obvious how it's done.&nbsp; The folder name &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is the internal folder name from the *.PMM folder file." I agree that editing the file is simple, but it always causes an error in the buffers, buf1 and buf2, when I edit the file manually. I guess if you want to put up with error messages, then it would be fine editing the file. However, editing the file can cause more than one folder to have the same email address. If the program can correct that error and the buffer errors can be corrected, then it would be no problem editing the file manually. I still think that adding the email addresses manually option should be added to the program to make it better. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Why do you attribute this to autofiltering?" I attribute the error in the buffers to autofiltering, because the error disappears when all of the autofiltering attributes for every folder are turned off, and the error does not reappear after they are turned back on and the email addresses are added back again by moving the emails back into each folder again. I guess that it could be indirectly causing the error, and the error could be in the program sections dealing with the buffers. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "It's called AUTOfiltering. Adding addresses manually kind of &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; defeats the object, don't you think? Add new addresses by &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dragging someone's message to a folder as and when they &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mail you, not in advance." I state again that the term is autoFILTERING and not autoADDRESSING. The term applies to the program automatically filtering incoming emails to user defined folders. The term does not have any reference to how the email addresses are added to each folder so that the filtering can take place. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "On your toolbar (right hand side) you should have the &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IERenderer icon (Pegasus superimposed in IE)." I do not use Internet Explorer. I have found that to many skilled programmers waist their skill programming trojans that install themselves on your computer through websites that takes advantage of the loopholes that are prevalent in Internet Explorer. I was constantly getting trojans and viruses installed when I used IE and it happened even when I used Kaspersky and AVG which are two of the best. I now use CometBird and AVG Internet Security and I have not had a problem in over 4 years. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "I was surprised that you could not see that Autofiltering is &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; no more than a small, helpful addition to the program. It is not &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; intended to replace the main filtering system, which is the place &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to go for large-scale or complex filtering." Any moron can see that it is an addition to the program. However, I would not agree that it is a small addition. When you manually move an email into an autofiltering folder and the email address is added to that folder's database, that action overrides all other filtering settings. Those emails will always go to that folder no matter what any previous settings with the referred to large-scale system had already been established. If those emails would have been sent to the spam folder, they will now go to the newly established autofiltering folder. In my book that does not make the system a small addition, but a large scale replacement that takes over, and the normal or non-autofiltering systems only apply to the email addresses that are not affected by the autofiltering system. That is not small. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Autofiltering IS automatic in adding e-mail addresses to its &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; filtering list. Whenever you move a message to a folder that has &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Autofiltering enabled, it will learn the address of the sender and &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; automatically move all future mail to that folder (outgoing as well &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; as incoming). It is a set-and-forget system." As I said previously autofiltering deals with filtering. Moving an email to a folder is just the way that the programmer decided was the way to add the email addresses to each folder. The fact that the email address is learned automatically has nothing to do with the filtering, and you are still manually moving the email to the folder. I believe that the program could be greatly enhanced by allowing the users to manually add email addresses in other ways as well. As for the program handling outgoing as well as incoming, you are mistaken. Try moving some emails along with the copies of your reply emails to the new email folder and see what happiness. You will see that the incoming emails are moved right back to their folder, but the copies of your replies will remain in the new email folder. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "As with any automatic system, it pays to give the user a chance &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to override, maintain or disable it. Hence the inclusion of the ability &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to remove addresses. Thomas has shown that you can manually &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; edit the appropriate file should you want to do things manually, but &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; really I fail to see why, if you wanted that level of control, you would &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; try to 'force' the Autofiltering system rather than use standard filters. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wrong tool for the job." I have several disagreements with this statement. For one, if the user is given the option of maintaining the email addresses by removing unwanted emails, then why not be able to move an entry from one folder to another, or simply add someone's email address to a folder even though you have not yet received an email from them. It would make adding an entire list a lot easier. Two, manually editing the file causes errors to occur in the program. Three, I fail to see why you consider manually adding an email address to the system would be forcing the autofiltering system. It would just be simply giving the user another way of adding addresses, which would make the system stronger. Four, how would it be the wrong tool for the job? If you have acquired a list of email addresses and some of those addresses are already in the system, and you want all of those addresses to go a specific folder. They how are you going to find those emails, if you still have them? And how are you going to get the system to send those emails to that particular folder? The autofiltering system overrides the others, so how are you going to get the ones already in the system to go to the new folder? And five, how is it the wrong tool for the job when the autofiltering system overrides the others? It seems to me that it is the perfect tool for the job. I do not understand why such a simple statement as adding email manually to the autofiltering system would cause such controversy and ridicule, when it would obviously make the program much stronger and user friendly. My God, if you do not want to add them manually, then don't. That does not mean that the rest of us do not want the ability to do so. It would make my work much easier, especially since I research and collect evidence against fraudulent emailers. So why does anyone's opinion about a system make it wrong for others to want the system to be improved? I was under the impression that Pegasus was supposed to be the program for the users, all users. Not just a select few. I have found it to be a very useful program, but what is the use if you have to send an email to yourself for every email address that you want to be entered in an autofiltering address. Can you imagine sending 5,000 emails to yourself, just to get those addresses to be filtered to a particular folder. That is ridiculous. That is why adding them manually would greatly benefit the program. If you do not want to use the ability, then don't, but do not deprive others of it.

Spencer7

posted Apr 7 '11 at 10:01 pm

I would like to know if there is a way to manually add email addresses to an autofiltering folder.

Thomas R. Stephenson

posted Apr 7 '11 at 11:04 pm

> I would like to know if there is a way to manually add email addresses to an autofiltering folder.

You can always edit the CFDEFS.PM file with an ASCII editor even though it says you should not edit the file. ;-) The e-mail addresses make it pretty obvious how it's done. The folder name is the internal folder name from the *.PMM folder file.

Here's a snippet of one.

# Pegasus Mail Conversation Folder Definition file
# This file is not intended to be user-edited.
V0:1.1
G0:1301966727 (Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:25:27)
F0:"CVDG5WG3:5D4C:FOL05A12",3,jfkclock@verizon.net,receptionist@chelseaclock.com

&gt; I would like to know if there is a way to manually add email addresses to an autofiltering folder.You can always edit the CFDEFS.PM file with an ASCII editor even though it says you should not edit the file.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; The e-mail addresses make it pretty obvious how it's done.&nbsp; The folder name is the internal folder name from the *.PMM folder file. &nbsp;Here's a snippet of one. # Pegasus Mail Conversation Folder Definition file # This file is not intended to be user-edited. V0:1.1 G0:1301966727 (Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:25:27) F0:"CVDG5WG3:5D4C:FOL05A12",3,jfkclock@verizon.net,receptionist@chelseaclock.com

Spencer7

posted Apr 9 '11 at 9:11 am

I thank you for your answer, and I just wonder about one possible problem. What would happen if it creates identical emails entries? How would Pegasus handle such a problem?

I already have found a couple of problems with the new version 4.61. It has trouble handling the autofiltering index from 5.42, and every time I do a simple copy in the normal preview pane the program crashes.

I thank you for your answer, and I just wonder about one possible problem. What would happen if it creates identical emails entries? How would Pegasus handle such a problem?I already have found a couple of problems with the new version 4.61. It has trouble handling the autofiltering index from 5.42, and every time I do a simple copy in the normal preview pane the program crashes.

Michael

posted Apr 9 '11 at 10:48 am

[quote user="Spencer7"]I already have found a couple of problems with the new version 4.61. It has trouble handling the autofiltering index from 5.42, and every time I do a simple copy in the normal preview pane the program crashes. [/quote]

Wh do you attribute this to autofiltering? What versions of Internet Explorer and IERenderer do you have installed?

[quote user="Spencer7"]I already have found a couple of problems with the new version 4.61. It has trouble handling the autofiltering index from 5.42, and every time I do a simple copy in the normal preview pane the program crashes. [/quote]Wh do you attribute this to autofiltering? What versions of Internet Explorer and IERenderer do you have installed?

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Spencer7

posted Apr 10 '11 at 9:01 am

Why do I attribute this problem to autofiltering is because when I turned off autofiltering to every folder and then turned them all back on the problem went away.

About editing the CFDEFS.pm file, if I edit it with either notepad or wordpad the program again brings up the error message with the choice of abort, retry, or ignore, and if I choose anything other than ignore it crashes when I move an email message into any autofiltering folder. The only way to get it to stop is to turn them all off and back on again.

I am a programmer and have been for over 30 years. This type of activity is usually attributed to the area that causes the errors. That is if you program with object-oriented style, but if you use straight old style go-to modular programming the problem could be anywhere. I hope that an object approach is used.

However, the problem with the program crashing when anything is copied in the preview window could be the IERenderer. I believe that I am using version 4.6.4.0. If the IERenderer does the indexing of the emails then the problem would lie there, but otherwise it is somewhere else.

That is beside the main reason for my question. The only way that I have found to add email addresses to any folder is to send myself an email with one email at a time in the reply-to area under the special tab. I find this quite tedious as it takes quite a lot of time to add 3500 email addresses to an autofiltering folder. What I do not understand is why the adding of email addresses manually to an autofiltering folder was not placed as an option in the managing autofiltering window. You can remove them, but not add them. That is a basic intuitive task and is just the opposite of removing an email, so it puzzles me why it was not added when the removing was added. The task of programming it should be straight forward. I would greatly appreciate it if it was added very soon.

Why do I attribute this problem to autofiltering is because when I turned off autofiltering to every folder and then turned them all back on the problem went away.About editing the CFDEFS.pm file, if I edit it with either notepad or wordpad the program again brings up the error message with the choice of abort, retry, or ignore, and if I choose anything other than ignore it crashes when I move an email message into any autofiltering folder. The only way to get it to stop is to turn them all off and back on again. I am a programmer and have been for over 30 years. This type of activity is usually attributed to the area that causes the errors. That is if you program with object-oriented style, but if you use straight old style go-to modular programming the problem could be anywhere. I hope that an object approach is used.&nbsp;However, the problem with the program crashing when anything is copied in the preview window could be the IERenderer. I believe that I am using version 4.6.4.0. If the IERenderer does the indexing of the emails then the problem would lie there, but otherwise it is somewhere else.That is beside the main reason for my question. The only way that I have found to add email addresses to any folder is to send myself an email with one email at a time in the reply-to area under the special tab. I find this quite tedious as it takes quite a lot of time to add 3500 email addresses to an autofiltering folder. What I do not understand is why the adding of email addresses manually to an autofiltering folder was not placed as an option in the managing autofiltering window. You can remove them, but not add them. That is a basic intuitive task and is just the opposite of removing an email, so it puzzles me why it was not added when the removing was added. The task of programming it should be straight forward. I would greatly appreciate it if it was added very soon.

Michael

posted Apr 10 '11 at 11:55 am

[quote user="Spencer7"]However, the problem with the program crashing when anything is copied in the preview window could be the IERenderer. I believe that I am using version 4.6.4.0. If the IERenderer does the indexing of the emails then the problem would lie there, but otherwise it is somewhere else.[/quote]

IERenderer is just an HTML renderer and nothing else, it doesn't deal with indexing emails (whatever you mean here). Aside from this there's currently no version above 2.4.2.x, if you talk about a version 4.6.4.x you most probably refer to BearHtml which is the legacy renderer.

If you want to provide further details about your issue you may use the MiniDump extension for providing (crash) dumps.

[quote user="Spencer7"]However, the problem with the program crashing when anything is copied in the preview window could be the IERenderer. I believe that I am using version 4.6.4.0. If the IERenderer does the indexing of the emails then the problem would lie there, but otherwise it is somewhere else.[/quote]IERenderer is just an HTML renderer and nothing else, it doesn't deal with indexing emails (whatever you mean here). Aside from this there's currently no version above 2.4.2.x, if you talk about a version 4.6.4.x you most probably refer to BearHtml which is the legacy renderer.If you want to provide further details about your issue you may use the <a href="/files/folders/community_add-ons_for_pegasus_mail/entry12763.aspx" mce_href="/files/folders/community_add-ons_for_pegasus_mail/entry12763.aspx" target="_blank">MiniDump extension</a> for providing (crash) dumps.

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Sharkfin

posted Apr 11 '11 at 10:59 pm

[quote user="Spencer7"]

What I do not understand is why the adding of email addresses manually to an autofiltering folder was not placed as an option in the managing autofiltering window. You can remove them, but not add them. That is a basic intuitive task and is just the opposite of removing an email, so it puzzles me why it was not added when the removing was added.

[/quote]

It's called AUTOfiltering. Adding addresses manually kind of defeats the object, don't you think? Add new addresses by dragging someone's message to a folder as and when they mail you, not in advance.

[quote user="Spencer7"]What I do not understand is why the adding of email addresses manually to an autofiltering folder was not placed as an option in the managing autofiltering window. You can remove them, but not add them. That is a basic intuitive task and is just the opposite of removing an email, so it puzzles me why it was not added when the removing was added. [/quote]It's called AUTOfiltering. Adding addresses manually kind of defeats the object, don't you think? Add new addresses by dragging someone's message to a folder as and when they mail you, not in advance.

Spencer7

posted Apr 12 '11 at 6:16 am

Yes, I understand that it is AUTOfiltering. That term refers to the program automatically filtering emails that you receive. It does not refer to how those emails are added to the folders in which the program autoFILTERS. I am not stupid and to condensend like that to someone who has been programming before you were born is kind of rude and I guess that shows how much lack of respect people have for each other. And in reference to your statement, then I would ask why can you manually remove an email address? should that not also be AUTO, SO WHY IS IT MANUAL?

If you can manually remove, then you should also be able to manually add. It is a simple reversal of the logic in the progamming, of which I have done at least a thousand times over and over.

As for the respectful response about the IERenderer, I was just guessing as to where the renderer was located and that is the version of the Bear dll. I respectfully ask where is the IERenderer located? and I will give the version. I do not know if it is the latest or not.

Sincerely,

Spencer7

Shalom

Yes, I understand that it is AUTOfiltering. That term refers to the program automatically filtering emails that you receive. It does not refer to how those emails are added to the folders in which the program autoFILTERS. I am not stupid and to condensend like that to someone who has been programming before you were born is kind of rude and I guess that shows how much lack of respect people have for each other. And in reference to your statement, then I would ask why can you manually remove an email address? should that not also be AUTO, SO WHY IS IT MANUAL?If you can manually remove, then you should also be able to manually add. It is a simple reversal of the logic in the progamming, of which I have done at least a thousand times over and over.As for the respectful response about the IERenderer, I was just guessing as to where the renderer was located and that is the version of the Bear dll. I respectfully ask where is the IERenderer located? and I will give the version. I do not know if it is the latest or not.Sincerely,Spencer7Shalom

caisson

posted Apr 12 '11 at 6:49 am

[quote user="Spencer7"]

As for the respectful response about the IERenderer, I was just guessing as to where the renderer was located and that is the version of the Bear dll. I respectfully ask where is the IERenderer located? and I will give the version. I do not know if it is the latest or not.

[/quote]

On your toolbar (right hand side) you should have the IERenderer icon (Pegasus superimposed in IE).

Click on the icon and "About" will give you the installed version.

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James Quigley

[quote user="Spencer7"]As for the respectful response about the IERenderer, I was just guessing as to where the renderer was located and that is the version of the Bear dll. I respectfully ask where is the IERenderer located? and I will give the version. I do not know if it is the latest or not.[/quote]On your toolbar (right hand side) you should have the IERenderer icon (Pegasus superimposed in IE).Click on the icon and "About" will give you the installed version.-- James Quigley&nbsp;

Sharkfin

posted Apr 12 '11 at 11:33 pm

[quote user="Spencer7"]

Yes, I understand that it is AUTOfiltering. That term refers to the program automatically filtering emails that you receive. It does not refer to how those emails are added to the folders in which the program autoFILTERS. I am not stupid and to condensend like that to someone who has been programming before you were born is kind of rude and I guess that shows how much lack of respect people have for each other. And in reference to your statement, then I would ask why can you manually remove an email address? should that not also be AUTO, SO WHY IS IT MANUAL?

[/quote]

If you were upset at my rather-more-brusque-than-normal response, I apologise. Your programming experience or age are entirely immaterial here, so we'll ignore that comment. While I would not want to disrespect anyone, I was surprised that you could not see that Autofiltering is no more than a small, helpful addition to the program. It is not intended to replace the main filtering system, which is the place to go for large-scale or complex filtering.

Autofiltering IS automatic in adding e-mail addresses to its filtering list. Whenever you move a message to a folder that has Autofiltering enabled, it will learn the address of the sender and automatically move all future mail to that folder (outgoing as well as incoming). It is a set-and-forget system.

As with any automatic system, it pays to give the user a chance to override, maintain or disable it. Hence the inclusion of the ability to remove addresses. Thomas has shown that you can manually edit the appropriate file should you want to do things manually, but really I fail to see why, if you wanted that level of control, you would try to 'force' the Autofiltering system rather than use standard filters. Wrong tool for the job.

[quote user="Spencer7"]Yes, I understand that it is AUTOfiltering. That term refers to the program automatically filtering emails that you receive. It does not refer to how those emails are added to the folders in which the program autoFILTERS. I am not stupid and to condensend like that to someone who has been programming before you were born is kind of rude and I guess that shows how much lack of respect people have for each other. And in reference to your statement, then I would ask why can you manually remove an email address? should that not also be AUTO, SO WHY IS IT MANUAL?[/quote]If you were upset at my rather-more-brusque-than-normal response, I apologise. Your programming experience or age are entirely immaterial here, so we'll ignore that comment. While I would not want to disrespect anyone, I was surprised that you could not see that Autofiltering is no more than a small, helpful addition to the program. It is not intended to replace the main filtering system, which is the place to go for large-scale or complex filtering.Autofiltering IS automatic in adding e-mail addresses to its filtering list. Whenever you move a message to a folder that has Autofiltering enabled, it will learn the address of the sender and automatically move all future mail to that folder (outgoing as well as incoming). It is a set-and-forget system.As with any automatic system, it pays to give the user a chance to override, maintain or disable it. Hence the inclusion of the ability to remove addresses. Thomas has shown that you can manually edit the appropriate file should you want to do things manually, but really I fail to see why, if you wanted that level of control, you would try to 'force' the Autofiltering system rather than use standard filters. Wrong tool for the job.

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