Hi, Folks
Note that in the following discussion I have changed the names of the accounts.
Yesterday I removed a user account from our system. I used Mercury to do this: Configuration > Manage local users... > selected the account and clicked Delete. I also checked the filtering rules and removed a couple of entries that processed mail for this account. The user folder no longer exists on the server. I closed and re-started Mercury.
Next, I sent a message from my gmail account to the deleted user account. Mercury showed the following in the Mercury Core Process window:
Date/Time: Job MG000001: from greenman@gmail.com (non-local)
To: jones (local)
* Transient error - job deferred for later processing.
After several hours this message was returned to my gmail account and to the Postmaster account:
With reference to your message with the subject:
"test"
The local mail transport system has reported the following problems
it encountered while trying to deliver your message:
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*** mr.jones@apsarchaeology.co.uk
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getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting
mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox informat
ion for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for
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With reference to your message with the subject:
"Test message"
The local mail transport system has reported the following problems
it encountered while trying to deliver your message:
I sent a test message to a user account that has never existed on our system and Mercury generated an immediate "550 Address <...> not known here" response.
I checked the local accounts again this morning - jones is not listed in Manage Local Users. No filtering rules exist. I have checked the pmail.usr file and the account is not listed there. A folder named jones does not exist. I closed Mercury, opened it again. I sent another 'test' message addressed to the deleted account and the same transient error appeared in the Mercury Core Process window.
I don't understand why Mercury is reporting a transient error for an account that does not exist. Also, the 'following problems' quoted are quite ugly when presented to the sender. There is no SMTP failure code listed, but the message subject does contain 'Delivery failure notification'.
Can this behaviour be changed via the configuration options in Mercury? It would be better if Mercury generated the 550 response for a deleted account rather than the information shown above. Presumably Mercury still thinks the account exists.
Anyone else seen this or have any suggestions, please?
Thanks.
<P>Hi, Folks</P>
<P>Note that in the following discussion I have changed the names of the accounts.</P>
<P>Yesterday I removed a user account from our system. I used Mercury to do this: Configuration &gt; Manage local users... &gt; selected the account and clicked Delete. I also checked the filtering rules and removed a couple of entries that processed mail for this account. The user folder no longer exists on the server. I closed and re-started Mercury.</P>
<P>Next, I sent a message from my gmail account to the deleted user account. Mercury showed the following in the Mercury Core Process window:</P>
<P>Date/Time: Job MG000001: from greenman@gmail.com (non-local)
&nbsp;&nbsp; To: jones (local)
&nbsp;&nbsp; * Transient error - job deferred for later processing.</P>
<P>
After several hours this message was returned to my gmail account and to the Postmaster account:</P>
<P>
With reference to your message with the subject:
&nbsp;&nbsp; "test"</P>
<P>The local mail transport system has reported the following problems
it encountered while trying to deliver your message:</P>
<P>-------------------------------------------------------------------
*** mr.jones@apsarchaeology.co.uk
Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error
getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting
mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox informat
ion for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for
jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for
jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting m
ailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox
information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.Error getting mailbox
information for jones.Error getting mailbox information for jones.</P>
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message.</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&nbsp;</P>
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<P>
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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:12:06 +0100
Subject: Delivery failure notification
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Content-disposition: Inline</P>
<P>With reference to your message with the subject:
&nbsp;&nbsp; "Test message"</P>
<P>The local mail transport system has reported the following problems
it encountered while trying to deliver your message:</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&nbsp;</P>
<P>I sent a test message to a user account that has never existed on our system and Mercury generated an immediate "550 Address &lt;...&gt; not known here" response.</P>
<P>I checked the local accounts again this morning - jones is not listed in Manage Local Users. No filtering rules exist. I have checked the pmail.usr file and the account is not listed there. A folder named jones does not exist. I closed Mercury, opened it again. I sent another 'test' message addressed&nbsp;to the deleted&nbsp;account and the same transient error appeared in the Mercury Core Process window.</P>
<P>I don't understand why Mercury is reporting a transient error for an account that does not exist. Also, the 'following problems' quoted are quite ugly when presented to the sender. There is no SMTP failure code listed, but the message subject does contain 'Delivery failure notification'.</P>
<P>Can this behaviour be changed via the configuration options in Mercury? It would be better if Mercury generated the 550 response for a deleted account rather than the information shown above. Presumably Mercury still thinks the account exists.</P>
<P>Anyone else seen this or have any suggestions, please?</P>
<P>Thanks.</P>