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Thank you one and all for your suggestions, and time. I had not realised that this would turn into such a saga.
I have indeed got the flag set to retain the Deleted Files Folder on exit. I find that it is often a necessary evil when emails do not, for some reason, arrive at their destination or I am in dispute over anything. I clear it down manually once a week.
As you can see, I have the flag set to retain Deleted Folders on EXIT.
from the copy on my PMAIL.INI file (below).
I'm sorry Brian, but I can't find anything that looks remotely like it refers to either retained or deleted Delete Folders.


PMAIL.INI file;-


[General]
Personal name = David T-C.
Home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN
Folder for copies to self = A-Sent
Commenting string = "> "
Default reply-to address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com
MHS mailbox name =
MHS Application directory =
MHS address =
Scan MHS application directory = Y
Copy to self = Y
Edit mail before forwarding = N
Save deleted messages until exit = Y
Leave read mail in newmail folder = Y
Request confirmation of reading = N


[Pegasus Mail for Windows]
Default right margin = 70
Folder sort order = 0
Temporary files directory =
Activity flags = 768
Reply field settings = 111100000
Startup directory =
Open new mail folder at startup = Y
Prompt to select copy to self folder = N
Address book sort order = 0
Require password at startup = N
Use MIME features = Y
Default MIME character set = ISO-8859-1
Encrypt copies-to-self of encrypted mail = N
Don't confirm message deletion = Y
Enclose attachments instead of separating = Y
Noticeboard sort order = 0
Lines to scan for message enclosures = 20
Button panel mode = 2
Button panel is closed = N
Button panel window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
New mail folder window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Default signature for outgoing mail = 0
Request confirmation of delivery = N
Application window frame is maximized = N
Application window rectangle = 72 4 1288 764
Editor window default width and depth = 766 626
Reader window default width and depth = 0 0
Font to use in message reader = Arial, 10, 0
Font to use in message editor = Arial, 10, 0
Font to use in folder browser = Tahoma, 12, 0
Font to use for printing = -, 15, 0
Offer advanced reply options = Y
Top/bottom margin for printing = 20 1691792
Left/right margin for printing = 20 1691792
Local user list window rectangle = 88 88 323 298
Reformat hard line breaks in replies = 2
Printer device name = Canon iP7200 series
Printer driver name =
Printer port =
Tab width in message editor (0-disable) = 8
Logged-in user list window rectangle = 104 104 286 297
Save desktop state between sessions = Y
Wrap long lines in message reader = 2
Built-in POP3 transport options word = 560
Don't autoload WINSOCK.DLL if found = N
Seconds between POP3 new mail checks = 3000
Seconds between regular new mail checks = 10
Secondary organization name =
Timezone for internal transport = +0100
Refuse confirm-read requests (internal) = P
Telltale window mode = 1
Telltale window control word = 31
Location of TLC of telltale window = 33 28
DList Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Noticeboard Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Header printing setting = 0
Extensions manager window rectangle = 78 78 202 307
WAV file for new mail sound alert =
Folder manager window rectangle = 874 2 380 638
Omit message headers when replying = N
Use custom header when replying = Y
Custom header format string = On ~D at ~T, ~F wrote:
Font to use in folder manager window = MS Sans Serif, 13, 0
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder operating flags = 0
MHS directory service window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Use system colours = Y
Display hot URLs in reader = 27
Web browser commandline = C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
Message reader format options = 20994
Message editor format options = 7442049
Message editor autosave interval = 5
Default settings values = 0010000F000201400100010000000000
New mail folder column widths = 0 0
Combined multipart reader rectangle = 0 0 0 0
General system flags = 0
Default mail folder name = New mail
Last run version = 1139 1 1 9
Commandline for dialling =
Commandline for hanging up =
Dialling flags = 0
System message reporting level = 10
Message reader wrapping margin = 80
Styled message editor margin smile = 170
Styled message editor tab width smile = 12
Automatic formatting settings = 19
Reader hyperlink display limit = 50
Margin for Ctrl-J operations = 96
Preferred layout for normal messages = 0
Integer preference block 1 = 12295 24000 17 5 330 0 0 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
Colours = 33587071 255 128 0 0 16777088 16777088 16777088 14875646 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Custom colours = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Printing banner = ~P
POP3 Definition = POPO0T2S.PND, 0
SMTP Definition = SMT9MHDL.PND, 0
Internet E-mail Address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com.com
Default TCP/IP timeout value = 6000
Favourite directory =
Personal Name (UTF-8 version) = David T-C.
Whitelist max count = 500
Whitelist flags = 3


[Pegasus Mail for Windows - Run Info]
Program version = Version 4.73.639, Mar 30 2018
Language resources = Standard UK English resource set
Time and date run ended = Sat, 22 Oct 2022 21:53:52
Running in standalone mode? = Y
Internal username = Single-user mode
Working home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN
New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL/ADMIN
LAN-based SMTP gateway status = Disabled, not preferred, not 'use always'.
MHS status = Disabled, not preferred, not 'use always'.
MHS directory path = /
MHS operating mode = SMF-70


[Pegasus Mail for Windows - Identities]
Name = David


[WinPMail Identity - David]
Personal name = David T-C.
Home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN
Folder for copies to self = SENT
Commenting string = "> "
Default reply-to address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com
MHS mailbox name =
MHS Application directory =
MHS address =
Scan MHS application directory = Y
Copy to self = Y
Edit mail before forwarding = N
Save deleted messages until exit = Y
Leave read mail in newmail folder = Y
Request confirmation of reading = N
Default right margin = 70
Folder sort order = 0
Temporary files directory =
Activity flags = 768
Reply field settings = 111100000
Startup directory =
Open new mail folder at startup = Y
Prompt to select copy to self folder = N
Address book sort order = 0
Require password at startup = N
Use MIME features = Y
Default MIME character set = ISO-8859-1
Encrypt copies-to-self of encrypted mail = N
Don't confirm message deletion = Y
Enclose attachments instead of separating = Y
Noticeboard sort order = 0
Lines to scan for message enclosures = 20
Button panel mode = 2
Button panel is closed = N
Button panel window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
New mail folder window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Default signature for outgoing mail = 0
Request confirmation of delivery = N
Application window frame is maximized = N
Application window rectangle = 104 14 1242 758
Editor window default width and depth = 160 39
Reader window default width and depth = 0 0
Font to use in message reader = Arial, 10, 0
Font to use in message editor = Arial, 10, 0
Font to use in folder browser = Tahoma, 12, 0
Font to use for printing = -, 15, 0
Offer advanced reply options = Y
Top/bottom margin for printing = 20 1691460
Left/right margin for printing = 20 1691460
Local user list window rectangle = 88 88 323 298
Reformat hard line breaks in replies = 0
Printer device name = Canon iP7200 series
Printer driver name =
Printer port =
Tab width in message editor (0-disable) = 4
Logged-in user list window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Save desktop state between sessions = Y
Wrap long lines in message reader = 2
Built-in POP3 transport options word = 561
Don't autoload WINSOCK.DLL if found = N
Seconds between POP3 new mail checks = 300
Seconds between regular new mail checks = 10
Secondary organization name =
Timezone for internal transport = +0100
Refuse confirm-read requests (internal) = P
Telltale window mode = 0
Telltale window control word = 31
Location of TLC of telltale window = 829 44
DList Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Noticeboard Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Header printing setting = 0
Extensions manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
WAV file for new mail sound alert =
Folder manager window rectangle = 881 -6 324 628
Omit message headers when replying = Y
Use custom header when replying = Y
Custom header format string = On ~D at ~T, ~F wrote:
Font to use in folder manager window = MS Sans Serif, 13, 0
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder definition =
Quick folder operating flags = 0
MHS directory service window rectangle = 0 0 0 0
Use system colours = Y
Display hot URLs in reader = 29
Web browser commandline = C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
Message reader format options = 20994
Message editor format options = 7441953
Message editor autosave interval = 1
Default settings values = 0010000F000201400100000000000000
New mail folder column widths = 0 0
Combined multipart reader rectangle = 0 0 0 0
General system flags = 0
Default mail folder name = New mail
Last run version = 1139 1 1 9
Identity-specific base filename = DRX1SKC9
Commandline for dialling =
Commandline for hanging up =
Dialling flags = 0
System message reporting level = 10
Message reader wrapping margin = 80
Styled message editor margin smile = 145
Styled message editor tab width smile = 12
Automatic formatting settings = 19
Reader hyperlink display limit = 30
Margin for Ctrl-J operations = 74
Preferred layout for normal messages = 0
Integer preference block 1 = 12303 24000 17 0 10 0 0 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
Colours = 32768 32768 128 0 0 15400447 16775924 15400447 14875646 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Custom colours = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Printing banner = ~P
POP3 Definition = POPO0T2S.PND, 0
SMTP Definition = SMT9MHDL.PND, 0
Internet E-mail Address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com
Default TCP/IP timeout value = 600
Favourite directory =
Personal Name (UTF-8 version) = David T-C.
Whitelist max count = 500
Whitelist flags = 3
Host where POP3 mail account is located =
POP3 mail account (username on host) =
V3 Password for POP3 mail account = SEED$12872:""
Delete downloaded mail from host = Y
Largest message size to retrieve = 0
Directory to place incoming POP3 mail =
Transport control word = 256
SMTP relay host for outgoing mail =
Search mask to locate outgoing messages =
Alternative From: field for message =
TCP/IP timeout value (seconds) = 30


The only thing (I say only, but I mean that numerically and not in any other sense!) that has changed since I had had this working perfectly (which it had been doing for over 10 years!), is that I had to reinstall Windows 10. My installed version was crawling like a snail, and getting slower!


I appreciate the time and effort that you all are expending on my behalf.


David Tarbox-Cooper.


Thank you one and all for your suggestions, and time. I had not realised that this would turn into such a saga. I have indeed got the flag set to retain the Deleted Files Folder on exit. I find that it is often a necessary evil when emails do not, for some reason, arrive at their destination or I am in dispute over anything. I clear it down manually once a week. As you can see, I have the flag set to retain Deleted Folders on EXIT. from the copy on my PMAIL.INI file (below). I'm sorry Brian, but I can't find anything that looks remotely like it refers to either retained or deleted Delete Folders. PMAIL.INI file;- [General] Personal name = David T-C. Home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN Folder for copies to self = A-Sent Commenting string = "> " Default reply-to address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com MHS mailbox name = MHS Application directory = MHS address = Scan MHS application directory = Y Copy to self = Y Edit mail before forwarding = N Save deleted messages until exit = Y Leave read mail in newmail folder = Y Request confirmation of reading = N [Pegasus Mail for Windows] Default right margin = 70 Folder sort order = 0 Temporary files directory = Activity flags = 768 Reply field settings = 111100000 Startup directory = Open new mail folder at startup = Y Prompt to select copy to self folder = N Address book sort order = 0 Require password at startup = N Use MIME features = Y Default MIME character set = ISO-8859-1 Encrypt copies-to-self of encrypted mail = N Don't confirm message deletion = Y Enclose attachments instead of separating = Y Noticeboard sort order = 0 Lines to scan for message enclosures = 20 Button panel mode = 2 Button panel is closed = N Button panel window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 New mail folder window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Default signature for outgoing mail = 0 Request confirmation of delivery = N Application window frame is maximized = N Application window rectangle = 72 4 1288 764 Editor window default width and depth = 766 626 Reader window default width and depth = 0 0 Font to use in message reader = Arial, 10, 0 Font to use in message editor = Arial, 10, 0 Font to use in folder browser = Tahoma, 12, 0 Font to use for printing = -, 15, 0 Offer advanced reply options = Y Top/bottom margin for printing = 20 1691792 Left/right margin for printing = 20 1691792 Local user list window rectangle = 88 88 323 298 Reformat hard line breaks in replies = 2 Printer device name = Canon iP7200 series Printer driver name = Printer port = Tab width in message editor (0-disable) = 8 Logged-in user list window rectangle = 104 104 286 297 Save desktop state between sessions = Y Wrap long lines in message reader = 2 Built-in POP3 transport options word = 560 Don't autoload WINSOCK.DLL if found = N Seconds between POP3 new mail checks = 3000 Seconds between regular new mail checks = 10 Secondary organization name = Timezone for internal transport = +0100 Refuse confirm-read requests (internal) = P Telltale window mode = 1 Telltale window control word = 31 Location of TLC of telltale window = 33 28 DList Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Noticeboard Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Header printing setting = 0 Extensions manager window rectangle = 78 78 202 307 WAV file for new mail sound alert = Folder manager window rectangle = 874 2 380 638 Omit message headers when replying = N Use custom header when replying = Y Custom header format string = On ~D at ~T, ~F wrote: Font to use in folder manager window = MS Sans Serif, 13, 0 Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder operating flags = 0 MHS directory service window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Use system colours = Y Display hot URLs in reader = 27 Web browser commandline = C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe Message reader format options = 20994 Message editor format options = 7442049 Message editor autosave interval = 5 Default settings values = 0010000F000201400100010000000000 New mail folder column widths = 0 0 Combined multipart reader rectangle = 0 0 0 0 General system flags = 0 Default mail folder name = New mail Last run version = 1139 1 1 9 Commandline for dialling = Commandline for hanging up = Dialling flags = 0 System message reporting level = 10 Message reader wrapping margin = 80 Styled message editor margin (mm) = 170 Styled message editor tab width (mm) = 12 Automatic formatting settings = 19 Reader hyperlink display limit = 50 Margin for Ctrl-J operations = 96 Preferred layout for normal messages = 0 Integer preference block 1 = 12295 24000 17 5 330 0 0 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Colours = 33587071 255 128 0 0 16777088 16777088 16777088 14875646 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Custom colours = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Printing banner = ~P POP3 Definition = POPO0T2S.PND, 0 SMTP Definition = SMT9MHDL.PND, 0 Internet E-mail Address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com.com Default TCP/IP timeout value = 6000 Favourite directory = Personal Name (UTF-8 version) = David T-C. Whitelist max count = 500 Whitelist flags = 3 [Pegasus Mail for Windows - Run Info] Program version = Version 4.73.639, Mar 30 2018 Language resources = Standard UK English resource set Time and date run ended = Sat, 22 Oct 2022 21:53:52 Running in standalone mode? = Y Internal username = Single-user mode Working home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL/ADMIN LAN-based SMTP gateway status = Disabled, not preferred, not 'use always'. MHS status = Disabled, not preferred, not 'use always'. MHS directory path = / MHS operating mode = SMF-70 [Pegasus Mail for Windows - Identities] Name = David [WinPMail Identity - David] Personal name = David T-C. Home mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN Folder for copies to self = SENT Commenting string = "> " Default reply-to address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com MHS mailbox name = MHS Application directory = MHS address = Scan MHS application directory = Y Copy to self = Y Edit mail before forwarding = N Save deleted messages until exit = Y Leave read mail in newmail folder = Y Request confirmation of reading = N Default right margin = 70 Folder sort order = 0 Temporary files directory = Activity flags = 768 Reply field settings = 111100000 Startup directory = Open new mail folder at startup = Y Prompt to select copy to self folder = N Address book sort order = 0 Require password at startup = N Use MIME features = Y Default MIME character set = ISO-8859-1 Encrypt copies-to-self of encrypted mail = N Don't confirm message deletion = Y Enclose attachments instead of separating = Y Noticeboard sort order = 0 Lines to scan for message enclosures = 20 Button panel mode = 2 Button panel is closed = N Button panel window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 New mail folder window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Default signature for outgoing mail = 0 Request confirmation of delivery = N Application window frame is maximized = N Application window rectangle = 104 14 1242 758 Editor window default width and depth = 160 39 Reader window default width and depth = 0 0 Font to use in message reader = Arial, 10, 0 Font to use in message editor = Arial, 10, 0 Font to use in folder browser = Tahoma, 12, 0 Font to use for printing = -, 15, 0 Offer advanced reply options = Y Top/bottom margin for printing = 20 1691460 Left/right margin for printing = 20 1691460 Local user list window rectangle = 88 88 323 298 Reformat hard line breaks in replies = 0 Printer device name = Canon iP7200 series Printer driver name = Printer port = Tab width in message editor (0-disable) = 4 Logged-in user list window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Save desktop state between sessions = Y Wrap long lines in message reader = 2 Built-in POP3 transport options word = 561 Don't autoload WINSOCK.DLL if found = N Seconds between POP3 new mail checks = 300 Seconds between regular new mail checks = 10 Secondary organization name = Timezone for internal transport = +0100 Refuse confirm-read requests (internal) = P Telltale window mode = 0 Telltale window control word = 31 Location of TLC of telltale window = 829 44 DList Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Noticeboard Manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Header printing setting = 0 Extensions manager window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 WAV file for new mail sound alert = Folder manager window rectangle = 881 -6 324 628 Omit message headers when replying = Y Use custom header when replying = Y Custom header format string = On ~D at ~T, ~F wrote: Font to use in folder manager window = MS Sans Serif, 13, 0 Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder definition = Quick folder operating flags = 0 MHS directory service window rectangle = 0 0 0 0 Use system colours = Y Display hot URLs in reader = 29 Web browser commandline = C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe Message reader format options = 20994 Message editor format options = 7441953 Message editor autosave interval = 1 Default settings values = 0010000F000201400100000000000000 New mail folder column widths = 0 0 Combined multipart reader rectangle = 0 0 0 0 General system flags = 0 Default mail folder name = New mail Last run version = 1139 1 1 9 Identity-specific base filename = DRX1SKC9 Commandline for dialling = Commandline for hanging up = Dialling flags = 0 System message reporting level = 10 Message reader wrapping margin = 80 Styled message editor margin (mm) = 145 Styled message editor tab width (mm) = 12 Automatic formatting settings = 19 Reader hyperlink display limit = 30 Margin for Ctrl-J operations = 74 Preferred layout for normal messages = 0 Integer preference block 1 = 12303 24000 17 0 10 0 0 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Colours = 32768 32768 128 0 0 15400447 16775924 15400447 14875646 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Custom colours = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Printing banner = ~P POP3 Definition = POPO0T2S.PND, 0 SMTP Definition = SMT9MHDL.PND, 0 Internet E-mail Address = DavidTC2@btinternet.com Default TCP/IP timeout value = 600 Favourite directory = Personal Name (UTF-8 version) = David T-C. Whitelist max count = 500 Whitelist flags = 3 Host where POP3 mail account is located = POP3 mail account (username on host) = V3 Password for POP3 mail account = SEED$12872:"" Delete downloaded mail from host = Y Largest message size to retrieve = 0 Directory to place incoming POP3 mail = Transport control word = 256 SMTP relay host for outgoing mail = Search mask to locate outgoing messages = Alternative From: field for message = TCP/IP timeout value (seconds) = 30 The only thing (I say only, but I mean that numerically and not in any other sense!) that has changed since I had had this working perfectly (which it had been doing for over 10 years!), is that I had to reinstall Windows 10. My installed version was crawling like a snail, and getting slower! I appreciate the time and effort that you all are expending on my behalf. David Tarbox-Cooper.

David, there's definitly something wrong with this entry:

New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL/ADMIN

I'm not sure whether this is important in any way or fixes your issue, but this entry should read



New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN



i.e. the slash between MAIL and ADMIN needs to be a backslash like the other ones. In this case, I'm afraid, there's no way to fix it other than using NotPad (simply called Editor in recent Windows versions) - or a replacement (no formatting of any kind allowed!) - for editing this plain text file without changing anything else in the file (especially no line breaks or white space characters even though they might seem not necessary) while Pegasus Mail is closed and after you've created a backup copy. The above copy already lacks some spaces which is a side effect of conversion to HTML, so here's the proper line including the spaces:


New mailbox location             = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN


If you open your file in your plain text editor it shouldn't be too difficult to replace. Maybe this will help after a restart of Pegasus Mail, let's hope so.


David, there's definitly something wrong with this entry: [quote="pid:54601, uid:10839"]New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL/ADMIN[/quote] I'm not sure whether this is important in any way or fixes your issue, but this entry should read >_New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN_ i.e. the slash between MAIL and ADMIN needs to be a backslash like the other ones. In this case, I'm afraid, there's no way to fix it other than using NotPad (simply called _Editor_ in recent Windows versions) - or a replacement (no formatting of any kind allowed!) - for editing this plain text file without changing anything else in the file (especially no line breaks or white space characters even though they might seem not necessary) while Pegasus Mail is closed and after you've created a backup copy. The above copy already lacks some spaces which is a side effect of conversion to HTML, so here's the proper line including the spaces: [pre]New mailbox location = C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN[/pre] If you open your file in your plain text editor it shouldn't be too difficult to replace. Maybe this will help after a restart of Pegasus Mail, let's hope so.
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edited Oct 23 '22 at 8:05 pm

I think the errant slash could only be the result of a manual edit. If the new message .CNM files and PMAIL.INI are located in C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN then I don't think the slash is causing a problem but I would definitely backup PMAIL.INI and then fix it.


I think the errant slash could only be the result of a manual edit. If the new message .CNM files and PMAIL.INI are located in C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ADMIN then I don't think the slash is causing a problem but I would definitely backup PMAIL.INI and then fix it.

Apropos, just this week I've been experiencing a problem with Deleted Messages. I have always cleared the Delete folder manually. Suddenly, it began clearing some of the messages by itself. Then it would suddenly restore some of those messages and delete others. I have both delete options checked (Basic/Advanced). I too never understood the relationship between the two. However, with me, if I clear the Basic setting, it won't send a deleted message to the Delete folder. The message disappears. But the folder remains between sessions. So I need to have the Basic setting checked. It's gotten a little strange. Never had this problem in the 20 years I've used my blessed Pegasus. My Pmail--4.73. Been waiting for David to knock on my door with good NZ tea and a helping hand. Oh well, I like to dream.


Apropos, just this week I've been experiencing a problem with Deleted Messages. I have always cleared the Delete folder manually. Suddenly, it began clearing some of the messages by itself. Then it would suddenly restore some of those messages and delete others. I have both delete options checked (Basic/Advanced). I too never understood the relationship between the two. However, with me, if I clear the Basic setting, it won't send a deleted message to the Delete folder. The message disappears. But the folder remains between sessions. So I need to have the Basic setting checked. It's gotten a little strange. Never had this problem in the 20 years I've used my blessed Pegasus. My Pmail--4.73. Been waiting for David to knock on my door with good NZ tea and a helping hand. Oh well, I like to dream.

I have both delete options checked (Basic/Advanced). I too never understood the relationship between the two


The Basic option is "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". If this is not checked then deleted messages are not preserved, they are just deleted.


The Advanced option is "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions". Obviously the Deleted messages folder must exist in order for it to persist between sessions. The only way that can happen is if you opt to "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". I believe any confusion is the result of the verbiage "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". This can be interpreted to mean that Pegasus Mail will ONLY preserve deleted messages until it closes which is clearly not the case.


As for your current odd Deleted messages folder behavior, I suggest the following:


  • Create a new folder called 'Deleted messages saved' and then move all Deleted messages that you want to save into that folder.
  • Untick the Advanced option "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions".
  • Restart Pegasus Mail which will remove the existing Deleted messages folder.
  • Tick the Advanced option "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions".

The result should be a new Deleted messages folder being created on next delete.


I would not move the messages back from the Deleted messages saved folder. I would delete those on whatever schedule you have been using to do your manual deletes. Delete the folder once it is empty.


If you want the Deleted messages saved folder to appear near the top of the folder list name it "1_Deleted messages saved".


[quote="pid:54620, uid:28577"]I have both delete options checked (Basic/Advanced). I too never understood the relationship between the two[/quote] The Basic option is "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". If this is not checked then deleted messages are not preserved, they are just deleted. The Advanced option is "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions". Obviously the Deleted messages folder must exist in order for it to persist between sessions. The only way that can happen is if you opt to "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". I believe any confusion is the result of the verbiage "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". This can be interpreted to mean that Pegasus Mail will ONLY preserve deleted messages until it closes which is clearly not the case. As for your current odd Deleted messages folder behavior, I suggest the following: - Create a new folder called 'Deleted messages saved' and then move all Deleted messages that you want to save into that folder. - Untick the Advanced option "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions". - Restart Pegasus Mail which will remove the existing Deleted messages folder. - Tick the Advanced option "Deleted messages folder persists between sessions". The result should be a new Deleted messages folder being created on next delete. I would not move the messages back from the Deleted messages saved folder. I would delete those on whatever schedule you have been using to do your manual deletes. Delete the folder once it is empty. If you want the Deleted messages saved folder to appear near the top of the folder list name it "1_Deleted messages saved".

Many, many thanks Brian. Yet again you have dragged me out of the mire! I followed your instruction, and "wunderbar", up popped a legitimate "Deleted Messages" File in my Folders panel, and all was and is well!
Thanks also to everybody who contributed to this thread. What a wonderful community!


DavidTC44


Many, many thanks Brian. Yet again you have dragged me out of the mire! I followed your instruction, and "wunderbar", up popped a legitimate "Deleted Messages" File in my Folders panel, and all was and is well! Thanks also to everybody who contributed to this thread. What a wonderful community! DavidTC44

Many, many thanks Brian. Yet again you have dragged me out of the mire! I followed your instruction, and "wunderbar", up popped a legitimate "Deleted Messages" File in my Folders panel, and all was and is well!
Thanks also to everybody who contributed to this thread. What a wonderful community!


DavidTC44


Many, many thanks Brian. Yet again you have dragged me out of the mire! I followed your instruction, and "wunderbar", up popped a legitimate "Deleted Messages" File in my Folders panel, and all was and is well! Thanks also to everybody who contributed to this thread. What a wonderful community! DavidTC44
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