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After much hesitation on my part, I finally installed KernelEx on a Win98SE test box recently.

KernelEx ( http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/ ) is a compatibility layer to permit programs intended for Win2K and later to run on Win98 boxes. And then as part of seeing what it can do, I loaded Pegasus Mail 4.62, which announced as being incompatible with Win98 due to Microsoft restrictions on compilers. 

Everything seems to be running as smoothly as the PMail 4.51 is currently on my production Win98 box, so much so that I will put the combination on the production box at the next opportunity. 

Just thought you'd like to know.

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Thanks, guys.

 You've given me a few things to try out, and I'll report back here when I've done that.

One point: The mailbox location on the old machine was NOT to default. I set up the mailbox on my E drive, not the default C drive. The files I copied over from the old machine did NOT include such files as the INI file, so, as I reported above, the INI file is showing the correct locations of mail and new mail. And the new mail files which I copied over from the old machine ARE showing up in the new mail pane on the new machine.

But I'll certainly run pmail.cfg now that I know how to access it on my 64bit system.

Regards

Ian T 

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FJR posted Nov 4 '11 at 4:48 pm

[quote user="A01"]Are "Terminal" and "Fixedsys" similar ? The same thing ? Are they both fixed-width fonts ?[/quote]

Similar, not same but both fixed-pitch. And both are not aware of unicode-characters ... so don't use them. Courier New is a good choice for fixed pitch ... depends on OS. May be you have "OCR A" or "Lucida Sans Typewriter" or "Lucida Console" or "Consolas"

[quote]At any rate, what I want is to read and compose my E-mail in something that comes across as Ascii text, and not chosen fonts and so on. i.e., for me, E-mail should normally be, "Just the text, please"[/quote]

That's not the problem of fixed pitch font. If it's HTML and you choosed to see the most fancy or formated version (see options), you will see HTML-version (and if defined there: a special font/fontfamily), even if there is a simple textversion. Composing normal textmail is simple: enable all options for disabling formating. Your choice for fonts in Pegasus doesn't effect HTML-mails with defined fonts.

 bye   Olaf

 

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[quote user="ChefJohn"]I checked and the installed IE I had was 6.0.

I am running Win XP and so the latest IE I could download was IE 8.0.

This seems to have resolved the situation (and hopefully the display of HTML artifacts from one message being displayed in another).

Perhaps as part of the readme a note to indicated that IE is required?[/quote]

An would have fixed this as well. Oh, and if you wonder why this wasn't fixed before PM 4.62 came out: Because I didn't encounter it on my XP SP3 system with IE 6 installed. And with regard to the readme note: IE is part of the system, so how would this help? But aside from this, the What's new? section of Pegasus Mail's help file announces these changes ...

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Michael posted Nov 7 '11 at 7:18 pm

[quote user="Guy"]

[quote user="rlnelson"]
Occasionally when replying to a message, the original message is highlighted in red.
Other than being annoying this doesn;t create a real problem, but I would rather my responses don't have the highlighting.
[/quote]

Review settings:[/quote]

If he really means highlighted this is most probably a background color issue, and if so updating to should fix it (it was a TER/HTS rendering issue).

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Michael posted Nov 3 '11 at 8:01 pm

[quote user="paulaE"]I just installed Pegasus Mail v4.62 for Windows 2000/XP/Vista/Win7 (Nov. 3, 2011)

And immediately needed to uninstall it.[/quote]

No need to panic, would you mind to tell us why?

[quote user="paulaE"]I went to the "Control panel/Add or Remove Programs", where there were 2 entries, one for pegasus mail and one titled "Pegasus Mail HTML Renderer 2.4.5.18"; I clicked to remove the email program and it was removed.

Then, in control panel, I clicked to remove "Pegasus Mail HTML Renderer 2.4.5.18" and I received an error window: "Cannot find WINPM-32.EXE - setup aborted!".

I  used the windows search program to search for WINPM-32.EXE (including system and hidden files and folders. It doesn't appear to be on my hard drive.[/quote]

Certainly, you already removed this file (Pegasus Mail's main executable) with the previous uninstall command. Doing it the other way round would have avoided this.

[quote user="paulaE"]But the entry "Pegasus Mail HTML Renderer 2.4.5.18" remains in my control panel.[/quote]

Does the directory you installed Pegasus Mail to still exist (typically C:\PMAIL)? If so you may want to remove it including all remaining contents which might include any emails retrieved with Pegasus Mail, but it'll certainly removed IERenderer as well - but not the Registry entry responsible for displaying in your Control Panel view. For doing so you need to remove the Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{A9F5E1E1-1281-4862-90B4-6CF8E6AF83CE}_is1 (depending on the Windows version you use you may need to omit the "Wow6432Node" section which only exists on 64-bit Windows). Be extremely careful with modifying the Registry, though, it may completely hose your system if doing something wrong: It might be a good idea to create a system restore point before trying - unless you're experienced enough to know what you're doing.

[quote user="paulaE"]I also tried a a hard drive search (files and folders) for "pmail" and found
C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\PMAILW32-462.EXE-0C6F15B1.pf (dated today) and wonder if I should delete that file.

In fact, in that windows directory there are a bunch of files, dated today, that seem suggestive of Pmail, such as
SETPMDEFAULT.EXE-0BEA97E4.pf
IERENDERER.TMP-2F415623.pf
IERENDERER.EXE-1C82BC9E.pf

Should any of these be deleted?[/quote]

These are so-called "prefetch" files which allow Window to launch frequently used applications faster, they are maintained by Windows and I don't know whether outdated ones will be removed automatically or not, doing an Internet search would probably reveal it.

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FJR posted Nov 4 '11 at 10:11 am

Hmm ... in that merging up mailbox - did you simply COPY folderfiles from your "main" mailbox into that directory? In other words: you didn't create the additional mailbox and the folders in there within Pegasus?

I'm not shure (I'm not the programmer :-), but in that case the problem may be the identifier in PMM-File and HIERARCH.PM - something like that:  4D96DD0E:48DB:FOL00597. It should be unique, but if you simply copied the folderfile, it isn't any more and HIERARCH.PM has information, that this folder belongs to your main mailbox. So they may be merged up.

bye   Olaf

 

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[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

[snip]

A mail merge would fix this since each user will get their own message with only their own details.
[/quote]

 True, but more and more ISPs are restricting emails sent out in this fashion as a spam deterrent. The restrictions either start after a certain number of messages within a given time period, or when a certain total volume is exceeded.  I have run into these sorts of limits when using Pegasus' merge feature. ISPs generally do not divulge the specific limits they impose, so it is all trail and error, especially if you have a large number of records in your merge list, or include attachment(s) of any significant size.

 It would help if the merge facility had a delay parameter that could be set to delay the time between sending the merged messages, but with the present design of Pegasus, this would probably not be workable as it would lock further usage out for far too long to satisfy most users.  Unless the time delay were implemented not in the merge process, but in the send-from-queue process.

 

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Nov 1 '11 at 6:38 pm

> I'm getting "8: Socket read timeout." errors again. I'm getting them from home and from external places
>
> Here's the trace; hopefully I have tried to remove the identifying names, numbers, and addresses from the trace (which, I hope, doesn't
> impede assistance)
>
> All the 999 stuff is really just GoDaddy's machine, I'm going through two (or sometimes three) different local ISPs to get there. (I'm in 3
> different places during the day.)
>
> The symptoms are: works sometimes, fails other times.  Each different ISP will-then-won't work, then will again, then won't again; and so
> on. There is no real pattern to the behavior. Seems to happen on at least two of them.
>
> I'm trying to send someone an 81 KB PDF file attached to an Ascii text message of about 1740 bytes total; if I'm counting properly.
>
> I'm running Pegasus off a 4GB thumb drive.

May or may not be a problem but it should not cause a TCP/IP timeout.

> Do I have a problem ? Or is it the local ISPs all out to get me ?
> Answers that work will result in big thanks.

Hard to say why you are getting the timeout since this does not show the timeout setting but if you are always going through 2-3 servers then I would expect that the timeout setting may be the problem.  Can't really tell from this but if you were to provide a session log showing the failure it would help.

In any case I would go to the POP3 and SMTP setups and set the TCP/IP timeout to no less than 180 seconds and I use 300 seconds.  

>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Connection established to 999.999.999.999
> >> 0053 220 p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.nineninenine.net ESMTP
> << 0022 EHLO  [192.168.1.100]
> >> 0047 250-p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.nineninenine.net
> >> 0022 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> >> 0014 250-8BITMIME
> >> 0016 250 PIPELINING
> << 0012 AUTH LOGIN
> >> 0018 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
> << 0034 N3AxbjNAY2xpbnRkYW5idXJ5LmNvbQ==
> >> 0018 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
> << 0014 UVdFUlRZNw==

These are the things you have to munge since the username and password  can be easily read through the use of a Base64 decoder.

> >> 0031 235 Authentication succeeded.
> << 0041 MAIL FROM:<Original_1@The_Domain_1.com>
> >> 0022 250 Sender accepted.
> << 0036 RCPT TO:<her-e-mail@HerCompany.com>
> >> 0025 250 Recipient accepted.
> << 0006 DATA
> >> 0037 354 End your message with a period.
> 8: Socket read timeout.

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FJR posted Nov 3 '11 at 4:39 pm

Hi Carol,

the backup software is running and backing up all the time while you are sending mails? Don't think so!

Have a look at you antivirus software. Most times they are the reason for problems like that.

If you  generate a mail, pegasus will create two files:

PNW - contains information, which will generate headers

PNX - contains the body

 If antivirus blocks PNW, Pegasus can't delete it after sending. Next time looking for work to do pegasus will find PNW, generate mail without body becuase PNX is deleted and send only the headers.

 May be the reason ... don't know for shure ...

 

 Bye    Olaf

 

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While I am setting up a new mail identity (V4.62-DE) on Win XP machine:

>>I got annoyed with the popup warning me about editing a SMTP profile in use by more than one identity.. So I checked what I thought was the "Don't show me this again" option and clicked OK. Maybe I did not read the popup correctly, but now I simply cannot edit *any* SMTP profiles under *any* identities.<< (Add a new SMTP profile was not possible too)

 

This happens to me, too. After I had closed Pmail and start it new, the problem in my case was away. When I read your post I see, that I am not the only one witch happen this.

 

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Just wanted to advise that I took this path (copying over my entire PM 4 installation from my old XP system to my new Win 7 system), following the instructions caisson gave, and it worked perfectly. Had to fumble around a bit to find where the correct place to check for admin privileges was, but once I found it and verified that everything was checked off properly, it went smoothly.  Now I have to figure out whether it's possible to upgrade from the quite old version that I transferred (4.21c, dating from 2004 (!!) ) to 4.63...

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Steffan posted Dec 1 '11 at 10:07 am

AFAIK, you cannot rename the new mail folder (which isn't really a folder) or the deleted messages folder. But you definitely can rename the copies to self folder. If you do, make sure you tell Pegasus to store outgoing messages in that folder. Go to Tools, Options, Copies to self and select the folder of your choice. I don't know whether you're using Identities, but if you are, you need to do this for each individual Identity. Hope this helps.

Cheers!

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