> Is there a way to permanently and completely delete messages?  What I do is every 6 months or so I make a copy of my whole folder, rename as
> pmail-2010 or something, then delete  the old messages so that my pmail doesn't get toooo big.

After deleting messages from a folder make sure you compress the folder to remove the deleted messages.  Deleting only removes the message from the index (PMI), not the data (PMM) file unless you do the "Recover deleted space"

This should be done automatically if you delete a number of messages and have not turn on the folder compression in Tools | Options |  Advanced "Deleted space recovery" 

From the help:

When you delete a message, Pegasus Mail does not actually remove the message's data from the folder - instead, it simply marks the message as "deleted", and adds the size of the message data to an internal counter. Whenever the folder is closed, Pegasus Mail checks the internal counter to see if it exceeds a particular size, and if it does, it recovers the space occupied by all the deleted messages in the folder. If the folder is very large, or if you delete information from it frequently, this process of compression may become annoying or may take too long. Changing the value of this control allows you to tune the point at which Pegasus Mail will perform the deleted space recovery operation - setting a large number will make the operation happen less frequently, at the cost of having some of your disk space occupied by "dead" data. Setting this field to 0 turns off deleted space recovery - deleted data will never be removed from the folder, and it will therefore continue to get larger and larger over time.

The default value for this field is 24000 bytes: this value has been determined over a number of years to be a good compromise between performance and efficiency - we recommend that you do not change this value unless you have a clear specific reason fordoing so.

> > The primary purpose of Bcc: is to hide Bcc: addresses from the To: and Cc: addresses and not from others on the Bcc: list.
>
> Typically I'll use Bcc when inviting people to some function where it's not necessary or desirable for everyone to know who else is
> invited - and to make it feel like a more individual invitation, rather than a mass mailing. This would seem to be a mainstream use of
> Bcc, but apparently it's a dicey proposition...

This might be the primary purpose of home users but in the corporate world this is usually used to notify various supervisors/bosses and to hide this list from the other addresses.  The people on the Bcc: list want to know everyone who received this as well.  

If you really want to send something to a group and suppress the e-mail addresses use a distribution list with a sender field.  This will allow you to put a good e-mail address in the To: field so that the replies to the To: field do not go to all the other users.  Here's a sample of a Pegasus Mail dist. List with a sender field.  

----------------------------- test.pml ------------------------------
\TITLE Test List
\SENDER "My mailing List" <test@tstephenson.com>
\REPLYTO test@tstephenson.com
\READING Y
\DELIVERY Y
\URGENT Y
\SIGNATURE 1

techsupp@tstephenson.com
support@tstephenson.com

---------------------------- cut here --------------------------------

[quote user="Brian Fluet"]

  Tell me, is the setting now enabled or disabled. 

[/quote]

The box was checked, now unchecked.

Many thanks for responding, David.

Yes, you infer correctly. My script detects consistency check failures and then attempts to repair the faulty folders with a "fix" phase - I'm not expecting an automagic fix ;-)

I will look into the possibility of sending you one or more examples, but there is a legal issue here and I have to be certain to avoid comebacks before I send off potentially confidential information. I'm sure you knew this - your request was rather guarded...

Yes, you can. There are at least two ways of selectively downloading mail, that I know of. I'm assuming that you've setup a POP3 account (not IMAP), otherwise you probably wouldn't be asking the question.

The "quick and dirty" way is by using the "Selective mail download" option in the files menu - but in your case, this wouldn't actually be "quick", so I'll ignore that for now.

The "clever" way is to use mail filtering. In "Tools", look for "Mail filtering rules" and then "Create/edit POP3 rule set". Create a rule (ie give it a useful name) and then edit the rule. There are lots of criteria you can filter your messages with, including date. Then you just decide what you want to do with your filtered message - download it, throw it away, leave it on the Yahoo server, whatever.

However you handle this, 40,000 emails is going to take a while, but at least mail filtering prevents the need to download stuff you don't want.

 Hope this helps.

Yes.  When you start Pegasus the next time, it will prompt you for your setup choices, and recreate the PMAIL.CFG file accordingly.

• Thank you Steffan. That worked!
  

[quote user="Sequax"]"do you wish Pegasus to collect email from multiple email accounts into multiple inboxes?"

I'd really like some help with this! I can't find a feature that assigns an email to a new mailbox or a folder.[/quote]

Pegasus is extremely flexible in this regard but with this flexibility comes complexity.  An understanding of Pegasus Mail users, identities and filters is key.  Combining them in a way that results in the behavior you want can be complex but will be logical once you understand the concepts. 

Let us know in detail exactly what you are trying to accomplish and how you have things working at the moment so we can offer guidance specific to your goals.  Include such things as:

• whether you are retrieving mail via POP3 from multiple accounts
• whether you want a Pegasus Mail "user" associated with each of these accounts
  
• whether you want a single Pegasus Mail user to retrieve mail from multiple accounts but sort it to separate folders
• whether you want to reply in all cases as the Pegasus Mail "user" or as the account holder of each account.
  

> I tried copying from the Groupwise INBOX to a  Pegasus INBOX but still cannot see any CMNfiles.

You need to move these to the Pegasus Mail new mail directory not the IMAP4 inbox.  The CNM files will be in the new mail directory as specified in Help | About Pegasus Mail | Info.

Hello Michael

I deleted the file and this seems to have worked perfectly. Thank you for your help.

Cheers

Paul 

[quote user="janco admin"]Ok so i went in and renamed the PMAIL.ini file and then used version 4.61 and was able to open the user account but now when i open an attachment or minimize its crashing there. [/quote]

If it's a machine with IE 9 installed you need to . Since you're on a network you may need to use Inno unpacker for doing so manually instead of running the installer (if using a server setup of Pegasus Mail). IERenderer is (by 4.61) installed into the identically named subdirectory of Pegasus Mail's program directory.

Problem solved.  Many grateful thanks IDW.  You are wonderful.

Zone Alarm may be blocking the connection.  I replaced Zone Alarm with Comodo at home because Zone Alarm was blocking access even though it appeared to be configured correctly.  I don't recall ever being able to successfully temporarily disable Zone Alarm for testing.  It wasn't until I uninstalled it that I confirmed it as the problem.  This goes back a couple of years so may not be pertinent to the current version but there may be a connection if you've always had ZA and have never been able to get an email client to work.

[quote user="Georgy George"]While I have no problem installing this as an administrator via "Run As", the administrator on my system is not a Pegasus user.  The install tries to find a Pegasus registry key which does not exist and fails, so no install.[/quote]

You are not supposed to use Run As since the installer will not be able to read the proper user's HKEY_CURRENT_USER Registry entries exactly as encountered by you: VISTA and Windows 7 deal with this by offering to elevate access rights during installation so the installer can work properly when being launched by a restricted user, and if XP cannot do so then it's due to MS changing this behaviour when introducing more recent versions (and you're the first one to report it since XP didn't enforce non-admin accounts when it was released so most users probably didn't care anyway).

Aside from this Pegasus Mail uses the non-standard approach of creating all of its Registry keys (including the installation path) in HKEY_CURRENT_USER which already forces me to apply certain special efforts for accessing this key. I don't really understand why Windows doesn't offer a way for elevating user rights without becoming another user in the first place, IMO it would have been enough to just prompt for the current user's password for doing so ...

Thanks for that link, and your testing work.
The results page is certainly up to date.

What went wrong re:

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

Not sure what you mean about out of date, I've both tested and listed the problems with Pegasus Mail.

[/quote]

 What happened was that I searched on google - scanned the 1st page and picked up a general vibe that info was out of date and that there were problems.
5th on the list was Wine HQ - Pegasus Mail 4.41

The version number didn't impact (maybe cos it was my version) but either way..... this was going to be the info I was looking for.
To be fair, the page looked very good - professional - tests from 2007 to 2009 plus a warning "The test results you have selected are very old and may not represent the current state of Wine."

The reason I point this out, is that, one of googles 'results display' criteria, is clicks on a result ie to visit the page.

This means that pretty much everybody searching using "wine pegasus mail" will end up reading these old test results - because if they were reading the latest results, then that doc would be on the 1st google results page, and higher than the old results doc.

Which means that people are not realising that other test results exist.
They see PM has problems in Wine, and interest has waned - no more tests after 2009 (ah well, it was worth a try), and then bugger off

I honestly believe that you should contact winehq, and request that they modify the warning by inserting, ahead of it, something like "latest test results available here" with a link to the PM folder .

Here is the google search: "wine pegasus mail"

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The problem was caused by IErenderer being enabled.

I disabled it and pasted into the program dir:  Bearhtml.dll 04/05/2011

It now appears as though I have a fully functional PM.

[quote user="alanwolf"]

If I do a "select all" and then press delete, I can see it deleting them ONE AT A TIME.

[/quote]

I'm late to the party here, but the problem is that when you just "delete" messages (at least, with default settings), they get moved to the "deleted" folder, which takes about 1 second per message.  Another option is to "select all," and then hold down the Ctrl key while clicking on the Delete button (or pressing the delete key on your keyboard).  That bypasses the deleted mail folder and makes deletion of even a large number of messages almost instantaneous.

Tom

>The screen capture I attached shows an email that had a large

file attachment, but i'm
> getting many copies of EVERY incoming email.

I suspect that the download is actually failing and the mail server is resetting the account.  Try downloading just this message using File | Selective mail download.  But before you do this increase the timeout setting in the Tools | Internet options | POP3 setup to something like 180 seconds. 

Thanks Brian for trying to help. Here I am in northern BC on a slow link and unable to even re-install as I would do at home. I checked all the things you suggested; the problem persists.

[quote user="bfluet"]I get the impression that a current download of v4.61 doesn't contain the current version of IERenderer (maybe not BearHTML either).  If so, anyone know if there a plan to remedy that or if they will be updated in v4.62? [/quote]

Brian, I already answered your question(s) ...