Thanks Thomas. 

I very much appreciate your taking the time to reply and helping with this. 

 Tom

    "You can always edit the CFDEFS.PM file with an ASCII editor
    even though it says you    should not edit the file.  ;-)  The e-mail
    addresses make it pretty obvious how it's done.  The folder name
    is the internal folder name from the *.PMM folder file."

I agree that editing the file is simple, but it always causes an error in the buffers, buf1 and buf2, when I edit the file manually. I guess if you want to put up with error messages, then it would be fine editing the file. However, editing the file can cause more than one folder to have the same email address. If the program can correct that error and the buffer errors can be corrected, then it would be no problem editing the file manually. I still think that adding the email addresses manually option should be added to the program to make it better.

    "Why do you attribute this to autofiltering?"

I attribute the error in the buffers to autofiltering, because the error disappears when all of the autofiltering attributes for every folder are turned off, and the error does not reappear after they are turned back on and the email addresses are added back again by moving the emails back into each folder again. I guess that it could be indirectly causing the error, and the error could be in the program sections dealing with the buffers.

    "It's called AUTOfiltering. Adding addresses manually kind of
    defeats the object, don't you think? Add new addresses by
    dragging someone's message to a folder as and when they
    mail you, not in advance."

I state again that the term is autoFILTERING and not autoADDRESSING. The term applies to the program automatically filtering incoming emails to user defined folders. The term does not have any reference to how the email addresses are added to each folder so that the filtering can take place.

    "On your toolbar (right hand side) you should have the
    IERenderer icon (Pegasus superimposed in IE)."

I do not use Internet Explorer. I have found that to many skilled programmers waist their skill programming trojans that install themselves on your computer through websites that takes advantage of the loopholes that are prevalent in Internet Explorer. I was constantly getting trojans and viruses installed when I used IE and it happened even when I used Kaspersky and AVG which are two of the best. I now use CometBird and AVG Internet Security and I have not had a problem in over 4 years.

    "I was surprised that you could not see that Autofiltering is
    no more than a small, helpful addition to the program. It is not
    intended to replace the main filtering system, which is the place
    to go for large-scale or complex filtering."

Any moron can see that it is an addition to the program. However, I would not agree that it is a small addition. When you manually move an email into an autofiltering folder and the email address is added to that folder's database, that action overrides all other filtering settings. Those emails will always go to that folder no matter what any previous settings with the referred to large-scale system had already been established. If those emails would have been sent to the spam folder, they will now go to the newly established autofiltering folder. In my book that does not make the system a small addition, but a large scale replacement that takes over, and the normal or non-autofiltering systems only apply to the email addresses that are not affected by the autofiltering system. That is not small.

    "Autofiltering IS automatic in adding e-mail addresses to its
    filtering list. Whenever you move a message to a folder that has
    Autofiltering enabled, it will learn the address of the sender and
    automatically move all future mail to that folder (outgoing as well
    as incoming). It is a set-and-forget system."

As I said previously autofiltering deals with filtering. Moving an email to a folder is just the way that the programmer decided was the way to add the email addresses to each folder. The fact that the email address is learned automatically has nothing to do with the filtering, and you are still manually moving the email to the folder. I believe that the program could be greatly enhanced by allowing the users to manually add email addresses in other ways as well. As for the program handling outgoing as well as incoming, you are mistaken. Try moving some emails along with the copies of your reply emails to the new email folder and see what happiness. You will see that the incoming emails are moved right back to their folder, but the copies of your replies will remain in the new email folder.

    "As with any automatic system, it pays to give the user a chance
    to override, maintain or disable it. Hence the inclusion of the ability
    to remove addresses. Thomas has shown that you can manually
    edit the appropriate file should you want to do things manually, but
    really I fail to see why, if you wanted that level of control, you would
    try to 'force' the Autofiltering system rather than use standard filters.
    Wrong tool for the job."

I have several disagreements with this statement. For one, if the user is given the option of maintaining the email addresses by removing unwanted emails, then why not be able to move an entry from one folder to another, or simply add someone's email address to a folder even though you have not yet received an email from them. It would make adding an entire list a lot easier. Two, manually editing the file causes errors to occur in the program. Three, I fail to see why you consider manually adding an email address to the system would be forcing the autofiltering system. It would just be simply giving the user another way of adding addresses, which would make the system stronger. Four, how would it be the wrong tool for the job? If you have acquired a list of email addresses and some of those addresses are already in the system, and you want all of those addresses to go a specific folder. They how are you going to find those emails, if you still have them? And how are you going to get the system to send those emails to that particular folder? The autofiltering system overrides the others, so how are you going to get the ones already in the system to go to the new folder? And five, how is it the wrong tool for the job when the autofiltering system overrides the others? It seems to me that it is the perfect tool for the job.

I do not understand why such a simple statement as adding email manually to the autofiltering system would cause such controversy and ridicule, when it would obviously make the program much stronger and user friendly. My God, if you do not want to add them manually, then don't. That does not mean that the rest of us do not want the ability to do so. It would make my work much easier, especially since I research and collect evidence against fraudulent emailers. So why does anyone's opinion about a system make it wrong for others to want the system to be improved? I was under the impression that Pegasus was supposed to be the program for the users, all users. Not just a select few. I have found it to be a very useful program, but what is the use if you have to send an email to yourself for every email address that you want to be entered in an autofiltering address. Can you imagine sending 5,000 emails to yourself, just to get those addresses to be filtered to a particular folder. That is ridiculous. That is why adding them manually would greatly benefit the program. If you do not want to use the ability, then don't, but do not deprive others of it.

FIXED!  Did some more searching.  Found the suggestion to remove large cnm file.  First one I tried was the culprit.  Loaded fine.

Tom

[quote user="Tom Sperlich"].. I really don't understand, if there is such a

high risk of crashing and eventually making PMail unusable - why the

heck isn't there a remark on the download page or whilst installation

..?[/quote]

 I am fully with you regarding this point [:)]

Pegasus 4.2.1 does not have such a problem on same box.
Alar.

(Thumping my head) I didn't even think to make sure I was in the current version. 

 Thanks, Michael.

Mark 

A continual problem.   The Mime part headers say it is iso-8859-1 charset. The actual html message says it is utf-8. It is actually iso-8859-1 that has been quoted-printable encoded. The sender needs to change the default charset of their client to utf-8

Martin

[quote user="ragsman"]

I need a bit of guidance and help regarding the following situation. 

Recently I installed a new computer running vista and installed the v.61 version of Pegasus.

I was able to move all my folders from the prior version running under WinXP sp3.

I modified the pcconfig.exe file with the Home and New filepath for the mailboxes but now when I launch Pegasus I receive the following error messages:

[/quote]

Something doesn't look right. Recheck your paths and proper spelling. Pegasus Mail never uses Program Files for anything by default.

Sample:

WINPMAIL.EXE directory: C:\PMAIL\Programs
Home mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\admin
New mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\admin

 In older versions and installs winpm-32 and program files might have been located in c:\pmail but all new clean installs use c:\pmail\programs location. All current version installs are multi user mode ones even if only one user.

The default username is where you want to copy your old messages folders and data to on new system and install if admin is where default user was located before. Did you run installer as update or was it new clean install to new machine. Also, however you restore files make sure backup or cdrom did not mark any c:\pmail and below files with R attribute (read only) and if so remove that manually as winpmail can't work with R files.

Thank you, bfluet, that seems to have worked.  I've put off restoring Pegasus Mail for two years, I'm so glad to be back to normal!

New mail folder corruption and other problems occur once the new mail folder reaches in the 700-800 message range.  This has been a know problem in previous versions and appears to remain so in v4.61.  The solution is indeed to keep the new mail folder trim.  Many folks use the Main folder as the working folder but I struggle with that myself.  I prefer to use the new mail folder which means I must routinely clean it out by deleting messages or moving them to other folders.

One other thought, had upgraded my software firewall and this caused problems with Pegasus and large files downloaded even via browser or ftp. Found it was due to the fragmentation of the packets during inspection? Reverted to old version of the firewall and no problem, will go through all the settings to see what is different between the old/new versions.

Not sure if this helps.

Pegasus Mail menu  Tools/options/Basic Settings.   Then supply a folder name to the dialog entry for Main Folder, which should default to "Main Folder"

[quote user="BeiZhun"]

Tks for the explaination. Much clear now.

But still have couple of questions.

For one user with two identities:
So what's your meaning of "There is a way to attach a one Users mailbox to another Users folder list."?
How to achieve my need base on attache other users mailbox to the mail user's folder and use each folder as a individual mailbox, can retrive and send mail through it?

[/quote]

I don't believe Pegasus Mail will do what you want to do.  Attaching a Users mailbox to another Users folder list allow you to view mail and folders in the attached mailbox but does not allow you to send mail from that mail box nor does it allow you to retrieve new mail for of the attached mailbox unless you have a mail server retrieving mail for all users. 

I assume mail is being retrieved via POP3 (if it isn't, let us know how) so the best suggestion I have is to run multiple instance of Pegasus Mail, one as each of the users.  Check the "Command line options' section of the help file for specifics on the -I switch which specifies the User Pegasus starts up as and the -MS switch which allows multiple instances of Pegasus Mail to run simultaneously.  I have never done this but it seems like the best workaround for what you need.  

NOTE:  You SHOULD NOT access the same mailbox from multiples instances at

the same time so you would not be able to have any mailboxes attached in

the folder list of any other instance.  

And hold down CTRL as you click on each one. Oh, and they'll have to all be in the same folder.

Alternatively, you can drag and drop them into the message.

Or, conversely, is Pegasus Mail for Apple still available and would it work on an iPhone?

To answer your second question, the name "default identity" cannot be changed (as far as I know).

You can, however, change the command line that runs Pegasus so that it starts up with one of your custom, named identities. See the help file page about command line options.

Thank you! I thought I had looked at every option but I missed that one.  I guess I was looking for a check box...

Thanks again!!

"If you go to a different folder then back to the New Mail, you'll see everything correctly sorted"

You can also just click twice on the Date/Time column header

That is strange. I can't reproduce that at all on any machine I use.  Were you able to test this on another computer?

Perhaps you have some other software running that interferes with this process.

If you double-click on the words 'Open message in web browser' it will open in your default browser without you having to make a choice.

(The same is true when you right-click on a link in the message.)