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PaulW posted Jun 17 '08 at 1:25 pm

Mercury detects which format the message part is in. You don't need to add filter rules to decide.  I have just tested this and it appears to work according to the help instructions.

What is generating the html messages that it is not recognising?

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jun 17 '08 at 6:09 pm

However, you may be going in the right direction as when I look at

the hierarch.pm contents [Notepad] most of the folders are of the form :

0,0,"6B8761B2:50FC:FOL037C8","31692465:My mailbox","Temp"

 but the problem folder [and one other which may also be a problem, haven't yet checked] are like this :

0,0,"","31692465:My mailbox","Private"

 Does that shed any light and is there a solution?

The second one is not a typical folder spec since it is not reporting the actual folder name within the PMM file headers.  That said, have you been manually moving folders around outside of WinPMail?  If so I suspect you have got two (or more) folders with the same name in the mailbox and the hierarch.pm can only show one.  You might want to try using this utility on your mailbox.  You can point at a separate directory and then use add mailbox to list and see all the folders.  Since these all have different internal folder names you should be able to see all of the folders that were in your mailbox.

PMRestArch - Pegasus Mail Restore Mail Folder Archives:
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg

Usage:
PMRestArch SourceDir DestinationDir

Description:
Pegasus Mail cannot display two mail folders with the same internal ID even if they are in separate mailboxes. Mail folders also have to be Read-Write.
      
This causes problems when trying to view mail folders which have been archived by copying them to backup media.

This utility:

1.  Copies all .PMM and .PMI files in the source directory to
    the destination directory and renames them as BAKxxxxx.PMM
    and BAKxxxx.PMI.

2.  Ensures that the resulting file is Read/Write.

3.  Creates a different internal unique ID for each file.

Once you have run this program to restore archived folders to a directory you can attach that directory using the Pegasus Mail 'Add mailbox to list' option and access the archived folders in this new mailbox.


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[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

FWIW, your anti-virus software is being changed and updated almost daily and you can never tell when one of these will break your system.  Turn it off or do not allow it to scan any of the Pegasus Mail folders or config files.  If you do not one of these days it's going to find what it thinks is a virus in a PMM file and delete it. This in fact just happened with one of the Pegasus Mail beta tester using AVG 8. You can do what you want but a-v software actually causes a lot more problems than it solves when it comes to Mercury and Pegasus Mail.

[/quote]

Hi Thomas,

You might be right, but it is not acceptable to switch-off the permanent on-access scanning engine of our av software. Further our av software (F-Prot) is a very fast scanner not like e.g. Symantec, which is very slow. Unfortunately it's not possible to lock out some special folders from scanning. May be a solution is to prevent the pmail.ini files from overwriting by adjusting the write permissions (NTFS). But than no user is able to change any settings subsequently.

regards

Joerg 

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jun 15 '08 at 5:27 pm

> I have lots of mail that was downloaded using 4.01 on an old computer.
> I have migrated the mail to my new computer but do not know how to get
> v4.41 to read all the old mail. 
>
>  Please help with specific instructions.
>
1.  Use Help | About Pegasus Mail | Info and note all the
    directories.  This is the directory structure you want to
    backup.

2.  Use the Windows backup program to backup the entire
    structure. In the multiuser made this means you'll have to
    backup the top level structure to get all the user
    directories. You can simply ZIP these directories to a
    CDROM and restore on the other end as well.

3.  Restore this to the new computer.  


Note:

A.  If you are using a CDROM for backup make sure that the
    files did not get marked read only.  Use Explorer and check
    the file properties.

B.  If you changed drive letters then run pconfig.exe and
    change the drive letter of the home and new mail directory
    to match the new location. You also should check the
    Mailbox: line in the *.PND files and make sure it's blank.

C.  If you want to upgrade in the process do it after you transfer the
    files and install it as an "Upgrade" over the old installation using
    exactly the same directory structure and options.



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Hello again,

 Your tip about Ordnerstatistik was very usefull, tnxx[Y] It gives one the feeling getting control about your own mail.

I managed to get 52 mails from the new mail folder back, and the copied "Copies to self" folder contained even the forwarded mail actions I did, to save as much as possible. Strange the folder seemed to be empty when working in PM. In a glance I saw several send mail that was important for me. It will take a little more time to sort it out.

However, for those who want to do the same trick: Don't forget to copy the corresponding *.PMI file also. Add a new user to your PM and delete the "Copies to self" folder in advance, because it is not allowed to have  a second one. Rename the found *.PMM and *.PMI files and copy/paste (or cut/paste if you are Daredevil:-) in the new Usermailbox. Seems to be a little  more work than nescesary, but in my case  I was already working  as a new user  and need the extra time /space  to  sort the corresponding mailboxes. But I cannot allow myself to loose more mails, so this is the fastest rescueaction I can manage for the moment. For me it gives also the extra insight in how PM works.

Markus, thanks again, untill we meet again, Boy
 

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PaulW posted Jun 17 '08 at 10:42 am

[quote user="Bill Parlin"]I'll look at my internet security software and see if it gives me any specific options on handling the email folders. I'm hesitant to tell it to ignore these folders, since alot of viruses and worms are being detected.[/quote]

Be aware that if it finds a virus in a folder, it may delete or quarantine all the messages in that folder. There is a Pegasus Mail addon that allows safe message scanning with most anti-virus programs.

Having said that, I'm not sure what's causing your index problem, but I see from another post that you are upgrading to the latest version, so we'll see if that makes a difference.

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Copies to self are only generated from the editor.  These can never be generated when you bypass the editor like when you

do a forward without editing or send directly from the queue.  If you look at the raw view you'll see why.   Checkout what happens with you forward a message without editing and try and figure out how to convert that to a real copy self that could be resent.  The only thing that would be possible is to do something like a Bcc:.

 

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dilberts_left_nut posted Jun 12 '08 at 1:20 pm

Assuming you are not in a Netware environment (I don't know if it will work the same).

MAKE A BACKUP OF THE MERCURY & MAIL FOLDERS. 

Copy the entire Mercury folder & mail folders to the SAME LOCATION on the new box (i.e. C:\Mercury -> C:\Mercury)

If you have to change location or drive letter you will need to edit the Mercury.ini and any .rul or other .ini files that have the old paths in them.

Start mercury on the new machine, ensure it runs as expected.

Stop mercury & run the latest installer, currently 4.52, 4.6 is due any day now [:)]  but don't wait for it because the 3.x series has some security flaws.

Make sure to choose the "Upgrade" option and it will pick up all your old settings.

Verify that it is working properly, THEN point your DNS to the new server and 'retire' the old one.

Shouldn't take more than about 30 mins. 

 

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MJacobs posted Jun 11 '08 at 12:29 am

5.0 would be wonderful ever as a outright purchase

4.41  with some tweaks is well worth another donation

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[quote user="Greenman"]We each have a choice in the matter. If you don't make the attempt to educate someone, then what's the point of the forum? If someone persists in their troll-like ways, then that is the point at which they will be ignored.[/quote]

Oh yes, we certainly do, but on reading the initial post, I just didn't think there would be much point in undertaking such an attempt. Seems like I was wrong. And I'm glad too :-)

To return to the topic, partly on account of ModernMan's reply, I agree that the default setting had better be changed, and as far as I'm concerned, the same applies to the default copy-to-self setting in Tools | Options | Messages and replies, which I believe should be "On".

Cheers!
Steffan

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PaulW posted Jun 16 '08 at 12:43 am

[quote user="ddmartin"]Is some way how to remove this errors or hide these error messages?[/quote]

I understand the next version of Pegasus Mail will remove the pop-up window and just log the errors to the System Messages window.

 

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jun 6 '08 at 6:04 pm

IIRC, the system uses the ~a to identify the current location so you could put the wav file in the home mail directory and use the ~a.

Here's some more information about substitutions and it looks like my memory is faulty.  ;-)

 

Most of the entries in this screen which accept strings allow
you to use special command substitution characters in the strings:
these are like "escape sequences" which will cause PMail to perform
some substitution at run-time. Command substitutions always begin
with a tilde (~) character, and are always two characters long.
The following command substitutions are recognised:

   This sequence...   Is replaced with this value

   ~c       The full path to the file containing the message
   ~t       The address to which to send this message
            (note: this is not necessarily the To: field)
   ~s       The message's subject field
   ~f       The full form of the message's "from" field
   ~n       The sender's user name in its simplest form
   ~b       The sender's bindery id, as a long hex integer
   ~8       The first 8 chars in the sender's username
   ~y       The time and date in RFC-822 format
   ~d       A random integer, expressed as 4 hex digits
   ~q       Y if this message is a BCC, N otherwise
   ~%name%  The value of the environment variable %name%.
   ~p       The user's personal name preference
   ~x       The name.ext ONLY of the container file (no path)
   ~a       The directory from which PMail was run (or base directory)
   ~h       The current user's home mailbox location
   ~w       The current user's new mail location
   ~~       A single tilde character.

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