Hello all !

Here is a (evry) old suggestion that I made ....... 14 years ago ! Wow, time flies as they say :

[h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/]community.pmail.com/index.php?u=/topic/3971/a-small-suggestion-regarding-comments-possibilities/post-17907

I thought since Pmail is currently under a debate regarding features et options, maybe the one above regarding comment possibilities could still be deemed interesting after all these years.

Back in the day, David thought so and maybe it is still the case.

Cheers !

Ps : I had the following error message : "Error: You do not have enough posts to use the following words : h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/ [please remove the "-" when eventually adding it to the thread address above]". I do not understand why I received this error message, but it seems related to the number of my posts. What is the number of posts that allows posting using "those" words ? Thanks.

The beta test team and I are currently discussing how the Pegasus Mail settings tree could be reorganized, and whether there are options that should be added or removed. A key factor in this discussion involves how preferences for identities should behave

My personal belief is that there are too many options in the program, and that they are not well-organized at the moment. I feel sure there must be changes and removals we can make, but I want to be sure I'm doing this in an informed way.

Regarding identity preferences - my favoured approach here is that only identity preferences that are explicitly changed by the user should be used while an identity is active, with all other preferences (that the user has not explicitly changed) being satisfied from the default preference set. This would allow your identities to operate on difference, rather than just being a wholesale duplication: it would mean that changing a value for all your identities would just involve changing it in the default set, unless you had explicitly changed it in the identity itself.

Anyway, I'd like to get input from the community on what should and shouldn't be done here - if you have ideas or thoughts about preferences and the way they work, please post them in this topic. I'll check it from time to time and will take all feedback into account.

Cheers!

-- David --

Hi all !

I just wanted to make a suggestion to David concerning the so-called progress reports that pop out from time to time.

It seems that he somehow "suffers" to not be able to make them as often as he wants.

Since Pegasus is a one-developer team (for the core parts because for the rest he can count on a great community), I suggest what follows.

Make only 3 reports per year, one every four months. So if the first one is on the 1st of January, then the 2nd would on the 1st of May and the 3rd on the 1st of September.

If this "routine" was to be accepted, I believe it would simplify David's tasks regarding progress reports and there is a good chance he could say goodbye to what I qualified using the word "suffers".

Why ? In my opinion, because the effort needed would only be to get used to a rhythm. There would not be any thinking regarding the time that went by since the last reports.

Also, if it happens that one of the above dates does not get a progress report "published" or posted, then by itself it would indicate that David could not do it for a good reason. He would not need to eventually give an explanation later as to why there was a miss.

So what do you think ?

Cheers.

Each folder window has the same column bars: from, subject, date/time, size.
Also the assigned "Copy to Self" folder has these predefined columns, but when a sent mail is being copied into it, the "from" column contains entries like: "To: addressee". This might be accepted when working only with Pmail.

But when using different mail clients (e.g. Thunderbird) to access one mailbox, these other clients always enter the real sender address, means my own address, into this column. And that is correct behaviour since the column is named "From".

"Copy to self" folders should get a real column "To" instead of abused column "From".

An issue I couldn't find within the "Suggestions" (at least among the active topics): would it be possible to add to the right-click menu for the selected messages in a folder (at least "New mail" one) options for some more markings' toggling like it is now with "Mark as read / ~unread" or "Toggle read-only status"? The most useful would be, in my opinion, "[un]Mark as urgent", "[un]Mark as copy to self" (this is in connection with one of my todays' posts, in the thread of
As of time being, this demands changing the attribute for each message separately, that is much time-consuming. Thanks.

As far as I can see, there were similar topics raised some times before, years ago, but all of them seem now closed without the result in PMail app. Would it be so hard to allow multiple, simultaneous deletion of the attachments in incoming messages, in the same way as you can save them all at once (or add multiple attachments when sending one)? To "peel" the messages I want to retain in other than "New mail" folder from the unnecessary/already saved elsewhere multiple attachments, I must now do several (or even several dozen) times: "mark - click "Delete selected attachments..." - press Enter - move down" sequence. For several messages a day it's somewhat demotivating...

Where does one find IErenderer in downloadable form?

The automatic SpellCheck pop-up window location reference code needs to be looked it.

I have an extended desktop across two large monitors.. and Pegasus opens and runs on the right side of the primary (left) monitor. This extended monitor set up confuses Pegasus apparently, because when the Spell Check pop-up window opens automatically (check spelling is selected to occur upon sending email), it appears almost completely off the left side of the monitor (there's just enough of it exposed to grab it with the mouse and drag it back in view on the desk top).
If I reposition the window location that Pegasus runs in, and/or the location of the email editing window within the main Pegasus window (to a certain extent), that affects where the pop-up automatically opens on the screen (or not on the screen as the case may be).

Now the weird part is that if I close that pop-up window by clicking on the "X" in the upper-right corner of it, it immediately reappears where it "belongs", adjacent to the email editing window!

In other words, it's now located as if I manually select "Check Spelling" during the editing of an email message - it opens adjacent to the email editing window (left or right, or even over the window depending on available screen real-estate).

I don't know if there's a race condition between Pegasus and the Windows OS of some kind (this occurs with both Win7 and Win10 in extended desk-top configuration), causing the "automatic" spell check pop-up window to appear in an unintended location before arriving at its intended location, (and then "closing" the window by clicking on the "X" unfreezes its location and it then reappears where it is supposed to?)...
... or if this is all Pegasus doing,...
...but it would certainly be more elegant if the automatic pop-up positioning behaved the same way as the manual spell-check pop-up window positioning - that is, first appearing where it is intended to be, and then if the window is closed by clicking on the "X" in the upper right corner, it actually "goes away" as in the manual spell check operation, not hopping over to where it was supposed to be!

OK, so you right-click on a filing tray, select "Move selected Entry" from the pop-up menu, and the next 'popup' screen shows that filing tray highlighted..now, don't select a new destination for it, just click "MOVE", and voilla! It's gone!

If you want to get it back, open hierarch.pm, find that filing tray..

it will look something like this... (assume the tray is called "mystuff" ).

1,2,"12345678:mystuff","12345678:mystuff","mystuff"

Yep, the tray is tucked nicely inside itself.. Pegasus considers that to be roughly the same as "dividing by zero..", but says to itself "I'm not falling for that", side steps it and moves on..

Close Pegasus (if not already), then edit that line in hierarch.pm to something like:

1,2,"12345678:mystuff","xxxxxxxx:My mailbox","mystuff"

(where xxxxxxxx is the address shown for "My Mailbox" at the top of the hierarch.pm file)

Open Pegasus, and your "mystuff" tray (and all its contents) should be back, now in the folder tree down one level from the main mailbox listing.

What might be handy is during a bug fix, maybe check the destination during a move to make sure what is being moved isn't being moved into itself..

Since the middle of last month the sent folder has not been updated in my Pegasus email client.

Sending and receiving emails works correctly.

Thanks in advance, Pepe

See discussion .

Any chance of seeing PMail updated for compatibility with Exchange mail services per below?

Per GoDaddy:
"Update your settings to keep your email app access working.

There are email accounts in your organization using Basic Authentication, which Microsoft will no longer support after 06/16/2023. You'll still be able to access your email through your browser, but not from an email app, such as Outlook or Apple Mail - don't worry, none of your emails will be lost.

In order to continue using your email apps, you need to update your settings from POP/IMAP to Exchange for each device you use to check your email. This also applies to other users who are set up within your account using POP/IMAP settings. Here's how to update your email settings."

I saw somewhere that David was not going to upgrade Pegasus Mail to 64 bit. Most all new programs/apps are 64 bit. The way Pegasus handles folders that grow to a couple of gigabytes in a very awkward way - it just starts giving an error that the file size is too big without any solve. Then the user has to figure out how to fix the problem themselves which is basically rename the physical file and not use it anymore. I typically have this problem with spam folders. 64 bit would solve a lot of this problem as file sizes can be larger than 2gb or 4gb on an appropriate file system. Bring Pegasus into the modern world. I doubt we will have any problems with folder sizes when you can store an exabyte with GPT file system.

When replying to a mail where the sender name is followed by the e-mail address in angle brackets, there is the following error message if the sender name contains special characters like "ü". Probably a coding problem, but it would be nice if this could be solved. It happens very often, unfortunately. Thanks!

Die Zustellung der folgenden Nachricht ist aus einem der
folgenden Gruende, den entweder das Zustellungssystem auf Ihrem
Relais-Server oder das lokale TCP/IP-Transportmodul berichtet hat,
nicht zustellbar:

504 5.5.2 <Hill-Th rup>: Recipient address rejected: need
fully-qualified address

I'd like to see a setting to automatically sort the new mail column by date/time.

Every time I check mail, the new mail loads above all the urgent emails at the top, and I have to click twice on the Date/Time column to get them all down.

I've noticed a very minor bug with respect to Grouped views (in 4.80): Ctrl+Shift+0 doesn't work for me to turn off Grouped views. It's the only Ctrl+Shift number that doesn't seem to work.

This is not a serious problem, because one can turn it off via the Folder tab --> Grouped view --> None. But I thought I'd pass it along for a fix in some future version, as I appreciate how hard you folks work to keep improving Pegasus!

Cheers,
Craig

It would be a nice feature when the mail preview and the loading of included content and pictures will be deactivated for mails which are in the spam folder even when global the preview is enabled.
But it should be possible to activate the preview manually for each spam mails if wanted.

I've been using Pegasus Mail exclusively since 2001 IIRC, and when after Win7 I abandoned Windows and switched to Linux, Pegasus Mail was among the 3 Windows programs I took with me, it's one of the essential can't-do-without programs I would do anything to keep using. Thank you David Harris!

Fortunately Pegasus Mail works just fine in Linux using Wine -- except the IERenderer part, which I have to kill if I want to be able to read any HTML mails.
If I don't remove it, all HTML emails (which are getting more and more common) are totally blank - no letters... After removing it I get an ugly-looking but entirely adequate, readable version.

Which brings me to the suggestion: Now I don't know a thing about programming, besides it seems this is an external library, but clearly IERenderer is (as far as I'm concerned) the only issue using Pegasus Mail with Wine. Can something be done about that? Pretty pretty please?...

Thanks again for that great piece of software!

I would like to have an overview of active addons (plugins) for Pmail in this forum.

Perhaps in form of a list of active addons with author, description, latest version and download reference to get it.
Or even with information not developed anymore but still working.
And the best would be if addons can be again hosted inside the forum.

At the moment there are several entries in the "Add-ons for Pegasus Mail" but most are obsolete, not working or have no download reference anymore.
My feeling was at least that nearly all addons are outdated, except IER.

I don't know if this is possible, especially with IMAP folders, but I have found myself opening numerous spam-tagged messages because they appear genuine based on the From and Subject columns. I do this to look at the actual From: email address. Being able to see that without opening the message would be nice, best if the feature could be applied per folder (I would only want it for new mail and spam folders).

I receive many mails tagged by the sender as URGENT that really aren't urgent at all, like advertisements.

When Pegasus sees the urgent flag in the headers, it seems to do 2 things

1) It sets the message details in the Inbox listing to the colour RED.

2) It filters the message details to the TOP of the lnbox listing.

The only way to resolve these is to open the message, go to message properties and turn off the urgent checkbox. At which point I've read the mail which I didn't really want to do!

Part of the problem, granted, is the way I use my inbox ... it's more like a "main" and I sort things out of it manually about every week or so. I use Main as the destination for mail I don't have defined mailboxes for.

So the problem with this is that I end up with mail that's actually more urgent (without the flag) pushed down the Inbox list. A nuisance.

So, the request is ... can we please have a mechanism to use a less garish colour (bright red is excessive for boring ads!) for messages marked urgent. AND can we please have the option of stopping the Move to the top of the Inbox list. It's hard to miss coloured messages in the list anyway!

Thank you :-)