Thanks for your help. The subject of my suggestion was within the scope of the development of Pegasus Mail.

I saw that Filezilla has export/import of ftp logins in the form of an xml file. That is very convenient if you have unskilled users.

Or... if you have several computers too...

I have thought over this again, and I still think that network options should be part of Options in the menu.

Presently an "Internet options" separate from "Options" in the menu is a difficulty for the new user.

Maybe also a way to identify mailing lists by

in the subject field and propose a folder with same name for reception.

 

Well in fact, maybe make

in the subject field a right-clickable area with "Create folder" and then "Move to folder" option.

 

Maybe also make "Create rule to receive in dedicated folder" a right-click option for sender, and other specifications.

Quick update - updating to the latest beta version seems to have done the trick and allowed me to delete the offending email.  John

As I see it there are two ways to move old mail into a separate Windows folder.  One is to move it over to a second dummy user, which I think is what Han is doing.  You can then add that user's mailbox to your folder list if you want to see the old stuff.  The other method is to create an Archive tree of public folders in a separate Win folder and move the old stuff there.  This gives a better folder display, but creates a Win file for every message, which seems very inefficient. The limitation of both methods is that you need to first create the destination folder and then move messages over to it one at a time (though you can save time with 'select all' if you have a steady hand on the mouse!).  I think this is why Han has to use PMRestArch - to avoid folder name conflicts.

This is really just a subset of the problem of sharing files between users, and as I have said, PM currently provides these two ways of doing it - display of another user's mail-box and creation of public folders.  I would like to know if David intends to improve either of these features in the near future, as both are a bit limited and tricky to use at present.

Hello!

Well, just one solution is not enough...we are talking about Pegasus Mail here, so there are several features you may want to benefit from. [;)]


(a) IMAP:
Perhaps, helps you. When using IMAP, you do not download new messages onto your computer, but you leave them on the respective IMAP-server - the point is that you can access that IMAP-server from any computer in the world, and that you can create folders, copy / move / delete messages, reply to them etc. as if they were on your local PC. You would not have to download the messages, but you would simply open an IMAP-account for each of your e-mail servers - provided the respective ISPs do offer IMAP-accounts (some do not).
Perhaps, you would also have to be online more often or longer than now: all changes you want to do to your email has to be told to the respective IMAP-server (if you pay a flatrate, then this is not a real problem, but it is if you pay by minute).
The main reasin for IMAP is being able to access your IMAP-accounts (with all messages and folders) from all over the world, from any PC. Since every IMAP-account has its own inbox (and other folders of its own), that may help you keep the messages separated.


(b) Local filters:
If you prefer to download any incoming messages to your computer (and to receive them in a single Pegasus Mail user), you may have Pegasus Mail filter them into several local folders, with each message filtered depending on the recipient's address. You would have to create some New Mail filtering rules defining what message to move to what folder.

An example: Let us say you have two e-mail accounts address_1@invalid.com and address_2@invalid.com. If a message sent to address_@invalid.com is sent to you, you want that message to be moved to folder ONE automatically; similar, a message for address_2@invalid.com should automatically be moved to folder TWO. The New Mail filtering rule set would check to which address the messages havebeen sent to, and depending on the recipient's address, the filtering rules would choose in which folder the messages would be moved.
When creating such a filtering rule, you may use a "regular expression"-rule that searches for a string in the headers like "X-Originally-sent.to: address_1@invalid.com" or similar (look at the raw view of a message, and you may find such a header entry).

Those New Mail filtering rules would move the messages to the respective folders. Note that the folders can be assigned an identity to -> if you reply to a message in a folder to which you have assigned an identity, that identity will automatically be used for the reply.

I have used (b) for several years now, and I am quite happy about that (but that is simply my personal choice). If you have any questions about that (how to create such a rule, or how to attach anidentity to a folder), just ask.


(c) Selective mail download:
You can use the Selective mail download (which you can start in the "File"-menu). When started, it displays a list with the messages waiting on the POP3-server to be downloaded; then, you can decide what message to download.
A selective download checks only one POP3-server at a time; so this is another way of how to keep the messages separated when downloading. As soon as you have checked one of your POP3-servers with Selective download, you can check another one. However, you have to do so manually - if you want to do so often, an automatic POP3-handling (like POP3-filtering rules or New Mail filtering rules) is recommended.


(d) Several users:
You said you did not want several users because you might find some messages suitable for more than one user / address. If you have some users defined, you can copy and move messages from one user to another one - when using the command "Add mailbox to list", you can have Pegasus Mail list user X's mailbox and user Y's mailbox as well (with all folders and messages), so you can copy or move a message from one user's folders to the other user's folders.



This is just what I think is possible. Some of my suggestions are short (compared to the possibilities Pegasus Mail offers you), so they may not have answered all questions. If you are nots ure about any of my suggestions or if you want to get some more detailed help about any of them, jsut ask.

Hi !

The next release of Pegasus Mail will be released in the future (well, I hope so) and it seems it is going to be a major improvement with lots of new features (even maybe some suggested by the very members of this forum), a little event for us. Then, why not make this event be an event for the poor people out there who are wasting their time with other email clients or who are so ignorant (about email clients of course) that they regretfully missed the flying horse ? Here is a suggestion for that : why not contact the biggest online testing sites and provide them with the new release just a few days before the official release ? I am sure there is nothing to loose by asking. As for myself, should this suggestion find its way towards David's approval, I will send an email to the French sites I know that perform tests. If they says "Yes", I will give the email addresses to David, hoping for good and new reviews.

Cheers and see you in 4 years around Wellington !

Ginhead.
 

Hello! [quote user="manwithoutaname"] Hello everyone. First of all, congratulations on 'Pegasus Mail'. Good user program. Not [yet] excellent to my standards [please read below].[/quote] As usual, such a statement depends on what you think is good / useful / needed for an e-mail client (or any other program). As every program has their flaws, you can only decide which disadvantages you can easily live with, and what program features you can benefit the most from. It is two features that has attracted me the most when I chose to use Pegasus Mail: (a) the enormous filtering capabilities, as described in the FAQ-entry "", and (b) the options that allow you to set up Pegasus Mail the way you really want it. However, your mileage may vary, as they say, so it is not surprising you have some different thoughts than I have.

[quote] My first suggestion is to consider the use of dark or dark-ish backgrounds in contrast to brighter fonts both on the forums and on the program itself. It goes easier on the eyes: I should know. I realize it's a 'fashion' to do it this way because it looks 'pretty', but like most fashions not a smart one, in my humble opinion and based on the evidence provided by research on the effect of bright backgrounds on the eyes after long-term exposure, and for several more reasons. [/quote] You may want to try out the following two suggestions:
(a) You can set Window's background colour to a darker one and have Pegasus Mail use the colour settings used for Windows instead of its own colour definition. Go to "Tools" | "Options" | "General settings" | "Basic settings" where you find the option "Use system-defined colours in Pegasus Mail's controls". This is what the help says about that option:

Use system-defined colours in Pegasus Mail's controls If you check this control, Pegasus Mail will use the colours you have defined using the Windows Display control panel for the window background colour, list text, selected text and so on. Pegasus Mail uses colour quite extensively, however, and if you find that your Windows colour settings clash with the colouration it uses, unchecking this control will tell it to use a neutral colour set instead.

As far as I understand your request, I suggest you set the Windows-wide colours to a darker colour for "windows colour" and have the option mentioned above checked - then, Pegasus Mail will have most of its windows with a darker background colour. ("windows colour" can be set in the Windows display setting; as I have a German-speaking Windows version, I cannot tell you what the exact English-speaking name of "windows colour" is, but I hope you get the idea.)
(b) You may set Pegasus Mail's banding colours. Go to "Tools" | "Options" | "User interface" | "List displays". You can enable list banding for the folder list, the message list and the addressbook address list. Just read what the help says about the option. You may want to play around a little with the options in order to find whether they are useful to you. Their goal is simply to have a light background colour as a visual aid; perhaps, that amy help you as well. (Note that those settings are bound to the current identity, so each identity you have can have its own settings for banding colours.)

[quote] Second of all, I suggest that you consider allowing 'anonymous' posts on the forums.  Many professionals simply don't have the disposition nor the time to go through usually annoying 'registration processes'  for perhaps once-only suggestions, as is probably my case -although your registration process was rather 'smooth' compared to others.  'Moderators' might argue that this is to prevent profanity or what have you, but I submit that this is a faulty logic, making most carry a burden for the action of some tainted irresponsibles -we see this everyday all around the planet.   Besides, what are they there for?  A 'garbage' thread could be used to collect all the 'junk' or the undesired content before 'selection for deletion', perhaps. [/quote] As I am not the owner of your forum, I cannot promise you anything here. Myself, I prefer a membership for posting messages - that way, you can see who has written the message, and after a certain amount of time, you may get a feeling what someone wants to say or how they usually say it (a kind of a human touch). To me, "Guest1143A" is not as useful as a unique username for a unique user. However, I see your point; perhaps, a moderated "free for all"-section (in which everyone can post, even "Guest1143A") might be added.

[quote] And regarding Pegasus Mail, it's a good tool for users, but not yet excellent for a professional -always in my humble opinion-, for a simple reason of OPTIONS and CONTROL:

** A good tool is all about options and control, in my opinion.  Smart options and great control. [/quote] I am really surprised to read that. One of the usual arguments against Pegasus Mail is that it has too many options, too much for a novice to understand. (Myself, I do not think so; a user only has to set up the options they really need and can have any other options remain untouched.) Reading that Pegasus Mail lacks some options is surprising; it is the first time that I read it does not have enough options. Nevertheless, let us see what you have written: 

[quote] Sure 'Pegasus Mail' has a lot of options, but some of the very basic ones haven't been considered, it seems, or for some reason not programmed  [It's also possible that I have missed some feature on the program or some method on the manuals, in which case I apologize in advance for my ignorance].  Examples:  I have 8000+ messages on a mail account which I'll be downloading onto disk from a remote server .  I'd like to perform a "Selective Mail Download", but I'd like to control how many headers to download.  It seems like this isn't possible.  After a while, I just gave up and was forced to program a quick little tool just for this.[/quote] I am not sure whether I have really understood your description. Are you saying that Pegasus Mail does not have any "Selective download"-feature, or are you saying that Pegasus Mail's Selective Download is not useful to you?
In case you are looking for such a feature, go to "File" | "Selective mail download". Provided that there are any e-mail messages on the POP3-server you are connecting to, you will be displayed a window listing the messages waiting to be downloaded. When using Pegasus Mail's Selective Download, only the important header lines will be downloaded (Subject and From). Does that help you?
If Pegasus Mail's Selective Download is not enough for you or if you want to have the incoming messages handled automatically, Pegasus Mail's POP3-filtering rules may help instead - you can define what messages to download or to delete on the POP3-server etc. If you have any questions about that, just ask (describing all options of the POP3-filtering rules might be too much for my current reply.)

[quote] ** When mail is downloaded, a certain number of messages need to be downloaded before 'clearing on the server occurs'.  An option to allow each message to be downloaded and cleared individually would be good, especially for very unreliable connections, or better yet an option to control the number of messages to download before clearing them on the server regardless of the already existing option to limit the number of downloaded messages.[/quote] Are you talking about the usual POP3-download? If so, you have to know that teh RFCs define how to handle such POP3-download: the usual modus operandi as predescribed in the RFCs is to download all messages from the POP-server, deleting them on the server only if all messages has successfully been downloaded. In other words: Pegasus Mail behaves as the RFCs instruct it to.

There are some options to control POP3-downloading: (a) the POP3-filtering rules I have mentioned above; (b) the numbers of messages to be download in a single POP3-download instance; (c) the maximum size of messages to be downloaded. (b) and (c) are useful particularly with regard to instable connections.
Open the "Settings for retrieving mail"-window and go to its "Download controls"-tab. There you can find the options I have mentioned for (b) and (c).

[quote] During any step of the 'Selective Mail Download' process, an interruption of it causes whatever progress was made to be lost.  This may be fine and neat, but it does not seem to be practical.  Why not at least give the user a chance to resume work on whatever progress was made? [/quote] Sorry...could you describe that more detailed? What I want to know is what kind of interruption you have usually experienced.

[quote] To conform to the 'established' norms and trends and to make programs 'user-friendly' and easy to use does not imply cutting options for the smart user, I think.  Not all of us are inclined to use tools made "for dummies" [not to say that your program is such a tool because I don't see it as one - if I did I wouldn't even touch it].  Why sacrifice power to conform to mediocrity, is my question?  At least leave options open for anyone with the capacity to use them, is my opinion, so the smarter options left open the better, I think.  "Truth is what we all need the most" I learned recently.  I say that cleverness too.[/quote] A program that is fool-proof will only be used by fools - if that is what you want to say, then I totally agree with that.

Wonderful! Thank you!

In the unlikely event of there being multiple probable invalid offset records in a single Mail folder it appears that during start up Pegasus flags each one.   One of our users had about 20 such errors while trying to start Pegasus today.

Would it be possible to indicate these errors only the first time they are detected in any file?   

 I know this kind of error is extremely rare and therefore multiple occurrences even rarer but when they happen they not only cause inconvenience but also dent users confidence a bit.
 

Its late, maybe I will understand more in the morning.  I am not sure where to stick the -roam.  Maybe I should not have asked that ~!<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

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Greetings,

There has been a search done on "unlock" and "custom" not finding any references to the following suggestions.

What do you think of this for a suggestion, the abilities to have access to a customizable 'Tool Bar' that would have selectable icons, some what like Mozilla Fire Fox uses.  Maybe even be able to move the full 'Tool Bar' up to the 'Menu Bar' line and to the right, there is a very long open area there.

Maybe make the Message Header area have a customizable layout, this would give some of us a larger Message Body read/work area.
    Example:
From: "PersonsName" <UserNickName@DomainName.ext>   To: "PersonsName" <UserNickName@DomainName.ext>    Date/Time: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:33:28 -0500
Subject: Whatever one wishes to use as a short discription of message shorter than this but not really any longer.    Reply To: contact@domainname.ext

If the Subject: line is longer then truncate it for the display of the header above the message, they really should be not be any longer than what the "From:" or "To:" requirement.

Have it also available in Create a New Message.  My copy of PegasusMail is v4.41 and would like to have my message lines extend to the edge of PMail where the word wrap would work automatically.   I also know because of the HTML this will be very difficult, if not impossible, and maybe even some of the TXT messages where the sender has embedded CR/LF and set their messages to a very narrow column.

Thank you for reading my request,

Oh in that case I say kewl.... I look forward to seeing the results [H]

I am indeed! And I have been using Pegasus for a very long time (since Version 2.xx) and even used that feature.
I just recently saw the above described feature in Outlook:the drop-down-list of all the available addresses that start with "he" fro example is just very useful if you have large addressbooks (like myself) and aditionally several people whose name starts with "david" for example.
To be able to chose from a drop-down-list is just so much easier than to remember the exact email addresses in case you have more than one "David" or so.

Hermann

Mr. Harris I presume,
Could there be some sort of indicator placed within this little floating Window to show which e-mail account it is for when using single installation with multiple accounts and checking all accounts for e-mail automagicly?

Suggestion: Maybe use the first letter or one that is not used in any of the other UserNames so we would know which Profile has received e-mail. Maybe Numbering the different accesses and then use that number. My apologies for not thinking of these before, but; learning a very complex software system, XP; e-mail client, Pegasus; plus new cell telies, is a very daunting task for one that is far behind the curve in technologies.

If you have access to the mail server, you could use a spam filter to append an identifier to the subject line that would allow a filter in your client to move or delete them without downloading.

Again, Not a Programmer but have done some Partitioning and changing the 'block sizes' can be of some use. For these system operations and some of the third party software some 'block sizes' should be rather large to prevent fragmenting while for storage of e-mail might be better set 'block size' to 2kbytes because of the smaller message sizes. How about setting a partition, or drive, for e-mail only with the smaller or smallest 'block size'? Then those other Partitions or dirves set to a larger size to help with the de-fragmentation of our larger files. Just an idea, bad maybe but just thought of this and plan on testing it for myself, that is if no-one has any ideas that may conflict.

Thank you for reading my ranting,

Why not copy the lines in the file WINPMFUA.PM into a distribution list?

I use to empty it from tim eto time, put in in Excel and get it sorted and then fill the data into Distribution Lists. I do not use adress book, no need for all the data there, use mostly DL.