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Pegasus locks up on ... Restoring desktop layout

[quote user="Redgy"]Only one minor problem now: starting Pegasus NOT as administrator but as LVANXXXX leads to a screen where it is announced that minidump ended unsuccesfully.[/quote]

This doesn't sound like a familiar error message: Can you please quote the exact error message (or post a screen shot of the error dialog taken via Alt + Print, the Options tab of this forum's editor allows you to attach files up 46 KB in size)?

<p>[quote user="Redgy"]Only one minor problem now: starting Pegasus NOT as administrator but as LVANXXXX leads to a screen where it is announced that minidump ended unsuccesfully.[/quote]</p><p>This doesn't sound like a familiar error message: Can you please quote the exact error message (or post a screen shot of the error dialog taken via Alt + Print, the <i>Options</i> tab of this forum's editor allows you to attach files up 46 KB in size)? </p>
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My wife has been unable to get to pegasus mail for three days. It locked up on Restoring desktop layout. Perhaps too many messages.

Now I have uninstalled Pegasus, there were three programs there and immediately restarted the computer. It uses Win 10. I looked into the directories with Total Commander after the start up. Surprise! The PMAIL directory was still there. I deleted it completely. Downloaded the Pegasus Mail 4.72 version. Started the installing. That ended without problems. Pegasus, started as administrator, still locks up on startup at "Restoring desktop layout". Obviously, there must still be something somewhere in memory, because minidump tells me the default user is LVANXXXX (my wife's user name with Pegasus.

I copied the files in the user directories to another drive, but at this point, we are really only interested in her being able to access her mail with her favourite program.

 As I said, I amusing Win 10. Where would this LVANXXXX be stored?

 

<p>My wife has been unable to get to pegasus mail for three days. It locked up on Restoring desktop layout. Perhaps too many messages. </p><p>Now I have uninstalled Pegasus, there were three programs there and immediately restarted the computer. It uses Win 10. I looked into the directories with Total Commander after the start up. Surprise! The PMAIL directory was still there. I deleted it completely. Downloaded the Pegasus Mail 4.72 version. Started the installing. That ended without problems. Pegasus, started as administrator, still locks up on startup at "Restoring desktop layout". Obviously, there must still be something somewhere in memory, because minidump tells me the default user is LVANXXXX (my wife's user name with Pegasus.</p><p>I copied the files in the user directories to another drive, but at this point, we are really only interested in her being able to access her mail with her favourite program.</p><p> As I said, I amusing Win 10. Where would this LVANXXXX be stored?</p><p> </p>

I don't know where the LVANXXX is coming from.  If the LVANXXX mailbox directory has been removed from the \MAIL directory then at the very least you should be receiving a "user unknown" type of message.

As for the hang at "Restoring desktop layout" there are numerous threads about this that a search will find.  Three issues that come to my mind are the location of the installation, a missing printer, and a bad new message file.  Since it is occurring with a clean install it's doubtful that it is a new message file.  Check the installation location to confirm that it is not in either of the \Program Files directories (it will not work if there).  Next, make sure you have a printer installed and assigned as default.  Pegasus Mail polls the default printer driver during startup.  I understand that some drivers only respond if they can confirm the status of the printer so it may be required to be powered up.

 

<p>I don't know where the LVANXXX is coming from.  If the LVANXXX mailbox directory has been removed from the \MAIL directory then at the very least you should be receiving a "user unknown" type of message.</p><p>As for the hang at "Restoring desktop layout" there are numerous threads about this that a search will find.  Three issues that come to my mind are the location of the installation, a missing printer, and a bad new message file.  Since it is occurring with a clean install it's doubtful that it is a new message file.  Check the installation location to confirm that it is not in either of the \Program Files directories (it will not work if there).  Next, make sure you have a printer installed and assigned as default.  Pegasus Mail polls the default printer driver during startup.  I understand that some drivers only respond if they can confirm the status of the printer so it may be required to be powered up.</p><p> </p>

It installed in the PMAIL directory. The printer is ready and powered up.OK, the printer is reached by WiFi but it worked on a new computer and other programs find the printer. I am thinking the uninstall procedure did not delete everything in "memory" (the fact that the PMail folder was still there and full after an uninstall and re-start of the computer is ominous). Meaning there are still Pegasus Mail entries in the registry or whatever it is called in Win 10. How to find them and delete them?

 

<p>It installed in the PMAIL directory. The printer is ready and powered up.OK, the printer is reached by WiFi but it worked on a new computer and other programs find the printer. I am thinking the uninstall procedure did not delete everything in "memory" (the fact that the PMail folder was still there and full after an uninstall and re-start of the computer is ominous). Meaning there are still Pegasus Mail entries in the registry or whatever it is called in Win 10. How to find them and delete them?</p><p> </p>

AFAIK, the default Pegasus Mail user name is not used in any of the

registry entries. They simply record paths to Pegasus Mail components and get rewritten each time the installer and/or Pegasus Mail is run.

An uninstall does not remove the mailbox content which is why the \PMail directory remained.  Within it should be a \MAIL subdirectory which contains the mailbox directory (directories if multiple users).  Each mailbox directory contains the configuration files for that Pegasus Mail user.  So, when an uninstall is performed, the \PMAIL and associated mailbox directories remain.  A subsequent reinstall will, by default, install to the same location as the previous install so will use all of the existing configuration files.  One of those configuration files is probably causing the problem.  The key to accomplishing a clean install is to get the remaining \PMAIL directory (and mailbox directories if they reside outside of \PMAIL) out of the picture either by renaming or moving it elsewhere.  Don't delete the mailbox directories if you want to recover any data into the mailboxes of the new install.

Once \PMAIL is out the the picture, a subsequent install will not be able to see any of the files from the previous installation.  It is strongly recommended that the new install be to C:\PMAIL.  The program files should install into C:\PMAIL\PROGRAMS and the mailbox directories into C:\PMAIL\MAIL.

That is how it SHOULD work.  What troubles me is that you stated you had deleted the PMAIL directory before the reinstall yet it appears to be using configuration data from the previous install.  This indicates that the previous mailbox directories were left in place.  If that is the case, the problem could be with a bad new message file.  Try moving all of the new message files (*.cnm files) out of the LVANXXX directory. Now start Pegasus Mail and see if it starts up.  If it does, the problem is being caused by a corrupted or zero-byte new message file.  A zero-byte file is easy to find but a corrupted one can only be identified by trial and error.  It will be dated after the last successful startup.  Beyond that, the process of identifying it is to move a few message files at a time back into the mailbox directory, starting Pegasus Mail after each set until the startup fails.  You then narrow it down from within that set.

If you feel certain that you removed the mailbox directories before the reinstall then my only suggestion is to try an uninstall/reinstall again following the steps described early in this post. 

Sorry for being long-winded.  I tend to do that in an attempt to provide the big picture in the hopes it of providing an understanding of what is going on and perhaps sparking an AHA! moment.  Considering doing a system wide search for any directory named LVANXXX since it is possible to have Home and New mailbox directories in different locations.  If you can find the PMAIL.INI file associated with user LVANXXX (it will be in that users Home mailbox directory) you can open it with a text editor and look at the mailbox directory path entries to see what was being used.

Let us know if you need help with copying mailbox data from the old mailbox directories to the new ones and we can point you to a resource containing that information.


<p>AFAIK, the default Pegasus Mail user name is not used in any of the registry entries. They simply record paths to Pegasus Mail components and get rewritten each time the installer and/or Pegasus Mail is run. </p><p>An uninstall does not remove the mailbox content which is why the \PMail directory remained.  Within it should be a \MAIL subdirectory which contains the mailbox directory (directories if multiple users).  Each mailbox directory contains the configuration files for that Pegasus Mail user.  So, when an uninstall is performed, the \PMAIL and associated mailbox directories remain.  A subsequent reinstall will, by default, install to the same location as the previous install so will use all of the existing configuration files.  One of those configuration files is probably causing the problem.  The key to accomplishing a clean install is to get the remaining \PMAIL directory (and mailbox directories if they reside outside of \PMAIL) out of the picture either by renaming or moving it elsewhere.  Don't delete the mailbox directories if you want to recover any data into the mailboxes of the new install. </p><p>Once \PMAIL is out the the picture, a subsequent install will not be able to see any of the files from the previous installation.  It is strongly recommended that the new install be to C:\PMAIL.  The program files should install into C:\PMAIL\PROGRAMS and the mailbox directories into C:\PMAIL\MAIL.</p><p>That is how it SHOULD work.  What troubles me is that you stated you had deleted the PMAIL directory before the reinstall yet it appears to be using configuration data from the previous install.  This indicates that the previous mailbox directories were left in place.  If that is the case, the problem could be with a bad new message file.  Try moving all of the new message files (*.cnm files) out of the LVANXXX directory. Now start Pegasus Mail and see if it starts up.  If it does, the problem is being caused by a corrupted or zero-byte new message file.  A zero-byte file is easy to find but a corrupted one can only be identified by trial and error.  It will be dated after the last successful startup.  Beyond that, the process of identifying it is to move a few message files at a time back into the mailbox directory, starting Pegasus Mail after each set until the startup fails.  You then narrow it down from within that set. </p><p>If you feel certain that you removed the mailbox directories before the reinstall then my only suggestion is to try an uninstall/reinstall again following the steps described early in this post.  </p><p>Sorry for being long-winded.  I tend to do that in an attempt to provide the big picture in the hopes it of providing an understanding of what is going on and perhaps sparking an AHA! moment.  Considering doing a system wide search for any directory named LVANXXX since it is possible to have Home and New mailbox directories in different locations.  If you can find the PMAIL.INI file associated with user LVANXXX (it will be in that users Home mailbox directory) you can open it with a text editor and look at the mailbox directory path entries to see what was being used. </p><p>Let us know if you need help with copying mailbox data from the old mailbox directories to the new ones and we can point you to a resource containing that information. </p><p> </p>

Well, I deleted the entire PMAIL directory (actually copied it to another drive). It still found this default user name. And there is more, but I will concentrate on the solution that I found.

While I had been able to print when I re-installed, I could no longer after a new start-up of the computer. I accidentally noticed that HP Scan and the Windows Adapter program were not using the same name for the HP Printer. It is a 6520, but somehow got "updated" by HP Update to 6525. I opened HP Scan and surprise, surprise, I could scan. So the name Windows used for the printer was the problem. I uninstalled all the HP programs for the printer and re-loaded and re-installed them from the HP website. After another re-start, the printer worked, Word could print and ... Pegasus got through the restoring desktop layout screen. 

Strangely, re-starting and ending Pegasus as administrator put the LVANXXXX subdirectory back. It even put mine back (I used Pegasus on that computer once, when we had just bought it. If they are not in the registry, where did that come from? Did the program started as administrator look on the other drive for directories to copy back? Of course, I now have no problem with it, as it saved me the trouble of making new users. Recopying the files from the other drive gave my wife her past messages back

 Only one minor problem now: starting Pegasus NOT as administrator but as LVANXXXX leads to a screen where it is announced that minidump ended unsuccesfully. It still allows my wife to see her mails, but what is the procedure to get rid of this error screen? Apart from that, everything seems OK again.

(To be fair on HP Update, I also found some nasty spyware on the computer after checking with Malwarebytes. That could have been part of the problem.)

<p>Well, I deleted the entire PMAIL directory (actually copied it to another drive). It still found this default user name. And there is more, but I will concentrate on the solution that I found.</p><p>While I had been able to print when I re-installed, I could no longer after a new start-up of the computer. I accidentally noticed that HP Scan and the Windows Adapter program were not using the same name for the HP Printer. It is a 6520, but somehow got "updated" by HP Update to 6525. I opened HP Scan and surprise, surprise, I could scan. So the name Windows used for the printer was the problem. I uninstalled all the HP programs for the printer and re-loaded and re-installed them from the HP website. After another re-start, the printer worked, Word could print and ... Pegasus got through the restoring desktop layout screen. </p><p>Strangely, re-starting and ending Pegasus as administrator put the LVANXXXX subdirectory back. It even put mine back (I used Pegasus on that computer once, when we had just bought it. If they are not in the registry, where did that come from? Did the program started as administrator look on the other drive for directories to copy back? Of course, I now have no problem with it, as it saved me the trouble of making new users. Recopying the files from the other drive gave my wife her past messages back</p><p> Only one minor problem now: starting Pegasus NOT as administrator but as LVANXXXX leads to a screen where it is announced that minidump ended unsuccesfully. It still allows my wife to see her mails, but what is the procedure to get rid of this error screen? Apart from that, everything seems OK again. </p><p>(To be fair on HP Update, I also found some nasty spyware on the computer after checking with Malwarebytes. That could have been part of the problem.) </p>
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