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Pegasus Mail 'cloud'

Hello:

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 Have you tried installing wine/Pegasus Mail on both partitions ...

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No ...

Never got around to that. (my OP is a bit dated now ...)

I decided to run just Devuan with Wine for Pegasus Mail and a VM for whatever MS stuff I may need which (fortunately) is less and less each day.

I don't think I'll be doing any more experiments with other distributions so my twin Pegasus Mail installation is no longer needed. 

My rig's motherboard has an internal (undocumented) USB port from which I can select to boot from at F8. It contains a very small install of TinyCore Linux and it is my go to emergency installation in case of trouble with connectivity. browser and all the needed tools. It has worked fine up to now so a second Linux install makes little sense now. 

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I still prefer Pegasus Mail to anything else even with all the quirks under PoL.

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Indeed ...

I must confess that, because of Wine's shortcomings I looked at Sylpheed/Claws for a while but they don't not have and apparently won't ever have the functionality of Pegasus Mail.

eg: one is selective mail download. It is a deal breaker for me and probably the best plug-in Pegasus has.

It is a pity that Wine does not clean up it's act (Pegasus wise) a bit more.

Cheers.

S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<p>Hello:</p><p> [quote]</p><p> Have you tried installing wine/Pegasus Mail on both partitions ... </p><p>[/quote] </p><p>No ...</p><p>Never got around to that. (my OP is a bit dated now ...) </p><p>I decided to run just Devuan with Wine for Pegasus Mail and a VM for whatever MS stuff I may need which (fortunately) is less and less each day.</p><p>I don't think I'll be doing any more experiments with other distributions so my twin Pegasus Mail installation is no longer needed.  </p><p>My rig's motherboard has an internal (undocumented) USB port from which I can select to boot from at F8. It contains a very small install of TinyCore Linux and it is my go to emergency installation in case of trouble with connectivity. browser and all the needed tools. It has worked fine up to now so a second Linux install makes little sense now.  </p><p>[quote]</p><p>I still prefer Pegasus Mail to anything else even with all the quirks under PoL.</p><p>[/quote] </p><p>Indeed ...</p><p>I must confess that, because of Wine's shortcomings I looked at Sylpheed/Claws for a while but they don't not have and apparently won't ever have the functionality of Pegasus Mail.</p><p>eg: one is selective mail download. It is <u>a deal breaker</u> for me and probably the best plug-in Pegasus has. </p><p>It is a pity that Wine does not clean up it's act (Pegasus wise) a bit more. </p><p>Cheers.</p><p>S. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>   </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

Hello:

I've been using Pegasus Mail for the longest time.

Started using it many years ago when MS software was all I had at hand (and after trying out Eudora), very briefly under DOS and then from W3.11 to XP til I finally managed to leave MS software behind me.

I now use Pegasus Mail in Linux (under Wine) but did not make my switch from a MS OS until I was quite sure I would be able to have PMail as my email client.

In my present situation, I have two Linux setups living on separate drives under the same hardware and for the time being, switch from one to the other according to my needs.

The question is as follows:

I would like to explore the possibility of being able to boot any one of my two present Linux setups and run identical Pegasus Mail installations albeit using one central configuration and mail folder structure so that any mail received or sent from Installation 'A' in Linux #1 would be immediately reflected on Installation 'B' in Linux #2.

The desired effect is that whenever I boot up my rig (Linux #1 or Linux #2) and load Pegasus Mail, there would be no difference whatsoever.

ie: the fact that I am using PMail Installation 'A' or PMail Installation 'B' would be totally transparent to me unless I check which Linux setup I am in.

The configuration data + folder structure would be located in a third/independent drive/partition.
Like a Pegasus Mail 'cloud'. (?)

Does this make sense?
Any thoughts on how to do this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

S.

<p>Hello: I've been using Pegasus Mail for the longest time.</p><p>Started using it many years ago when MS software was all I had at hand (and after trying out Eudora), very briefly under DOS and then from W3.11 to XP til I finally managed to leave MS software behind me. I now use Pegasus Mail in Linux (under Wine) but did not make my switch from a MS OS until I was quite sure I would be able to have PMail as my email client. In my present situation, I have two Linux setups living on separate drives under the same hardware and for the time being, switch from one to the other according to my needs. The question is as follows: I would like to explore the possibility of being able to boot any one of my two present Linux setups and run identical Pegasus Mail installations albeit using one <i>central configuration and mail folder structure</i> so that any mail received or sent from Installation 'A' in Linux #1 would be immediately reflected on Installation 'B' in Linux #2.</p><p>The desired effect is that whenever I boot up my rig (Linux #1 or Linux #2) and load Pegasus Mail, there would be no difference whatsoever. ie: the fact that I am using PMail Installation 'A' or PMail Installation 'B' would be totally transparent to me unless I check which Linux setup I am in. The configuration data + folder structure would be located in a third/independent drive/partition. Like a Pegasus Mail 'cloud'. (?) </p><p>Does this make sense? Any thoughts on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. S. </p>

In the "windows" world you could have a single install of Pegasus Mail including the mailboxes in a shared location which you then run from any machine.

Alternatively, you could have the mailboxes reside in a shared location with each machine containing a Pegasus Mail installation that is configured to use the mailboxes in the shared location.

Only advantage to either option is that option one has a single install to upgrade.  Otherwise, configuration changes made on either machine will be reflected on the other (can be problematic when one machine uses a low res display and the other a hi res).

Unfortunately I'm not Linux savy so must leave the how-to details to others.

<p>In the "windows" world you could have a single install of Pegasus Mail including the mailboxes in a shared location which you then run from any machine.</p><p>Alternatively, you could have the mailboxes reside in a shared location with each machine containing a Pegasus Mail installation that is configured to use the mailboxes in the shared location.</p><p>Only advantage to either option is that option one has a single install to upgrade.  Otherwise, configuration changes made on either machine will be reflected on the other (can be problematic when one machine uses a low res display and the other a hi res). </p><p>Unfortunately I'm not Linux savy so must leave the how-to details to others. </p>

I do a simular thing with a Win7/Ubuntu16.04 duel boot

I have Peg installed on both Win & Ubuntu (Wine) and share the User Mail folder, (which lives on Win side as win cant see Ubuntu (without over complecating with Samba ect) I use the IUD of the win partition not the SimLink and all works fine(ish) my only problem is even on same machine and same screen res the Pegasus window(s) are different sizes ;-<) I was working on seperate Pmail.ini's (O option on cmdline)) but after a few tests realised that window sizes are in State.pmj and many cmdline options don't "seem" to work under wine

&lt;p&gt;I do a simular thing with a Win7/Ubuntu16.04 duel boot&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have Peg installed on both Win &amp;amp; Ubuntu (Wine) and share the User Mail folder, (which lives on Win side as win cant see Ubuntu (without over complecating with Samba ect) I use the IUD of the win partition not the SimLink and all works fine(ish) my only problem is even on same machine and same screen res the Pegasus window(s) are different sizes ;-&amp;lt;) I was working on seperate Pmail.ini&#039;s (O option on cmdline)) but after a few tests realised that window sizes are in State.pmj and many cmdline options don&#039;t &quot;seem&quot; to work under wine &lt;/p&gt;

Hello:

[quote user="Shades"]I do a simular thing with a Win7/Ubuntu16.04 ...[/quote]

My idea involves two Wine installations which (by having just one place to store all the installation data and folder architecture) would be effectively identical.

ie: pmail.ini and all other data that actually defines a Pegasus Mail installation would be stored in one place but be accesible from either installation.

Obviously this would/could not happen concurrently as I would start PMail (in Wine) either from Linux setup #1 or Linux setup #2 which both live on the same rig ableit on different drives. There would be no differences in screen size etc. as all the hardware is exactly the same for both Linux setups.

 So (as I understand it) what I need to do is to devise a method to do this. 

I recall once having a PMail installation that had all the mail folders on a USB drive with none available if the drive was not available to Windows.

I'd say that the first thing I have to do is to try to devise a PMail installation where pmail.ini and all other data that actually defines it are stored outside of Wine and the Linux setup itself.

The thing is that I don't have any idea as to how to go about this.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

 S.

&lt;p&gt;Hello: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;Shades&quot;]I do a simular thing with a Win7/Ubuntu16.04 ...[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My idea involves two Wine installations which (by having just one place to store all the installation data and folder architecture) would be effectively identical.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;ie: pmail.ini and all other data that actually defines a Pegasus Mail installation would be stored in &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; place but be accesible from either installation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Obviously this would/could &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; happen concurrently as I would start PMail (in Wine) either from Linux setup #1 or Linux setup #2 which both live on the same rig ableit on different drives. There would be no differences in screen size etc. as all the hardware is exactly the same for both Linux setups. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;So (as I understand it) what I need to do is to devise a method to do this.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I recall once having a PMail installation that had all the mail folders on a USB drive with none available if the drive was not available to Windows. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d say that the first thing I have to do is to try to devise a PMail installation where pmail.ini and all other data that actually defines it are stored &lt;b&gt;outside&lt;/b&gt; of Wine and the Linux setup itself. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The thing is that I don&#039;t have any idea as to how to go about this. Thanks for your input.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;S. &lt;/p&gt;

The most important thing to understand is that the pmail.ini and all other configururation files reside in the home mailbox directory.  So, in the simplest of terms, you need the root \mail directory and its mailbox subdirectories in a location where it can accessed by the Pegasus Mail installations and the Pegasus Mail installations need to be configured to look there for the mailboxes.

The utility called pconfig (or more recently pconfig32) is how you tell Pegasus Mail where the mailboxes are but I don't know how best to accomplish that when you don't have a windows machine from which to run pconfig32.

&lt;p&gt;The most important thing to understand is that the pmail.ini and all other configururation files reside in the home mailbox directory.&amp;nbsp; So, in the simplest of terms, you need the root \mail directory and its mailbox subdirectories in a location where it can accessed by the Pegasus Mail installations and the Pegasus Mail installations need to be configured to look there for the mailboxes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The utility called pconfig (or more recently pconfig32) is how you tell Pegasus Mail where the mailboxes are but I don&#039;t know how best to accomplish that when you don&#039;t have a windows machine from which to run pconfig32. &lt;/p&gt;

Have you tried installing wine/Pegasus Mail on both partitions and then just move the PMAIL directory (mail and programs) to the third drive and then create links (ln -s ) from the wine-directories to that third drive?

I am running other software like that where I share some directories (not necessarily all).

I have been running Mint, PlayOnLinux (PoL) and Pegasus a couple of years now. It gets better and better. I have some problems with random crashes but never lost anything.Some things still not working, cannot use the buttons to copy/move etc. and auto-filters have the same effect for me.

Text looks like squares sometimes, I had that fixed before but it has reappeared and I just have not had the time to bother fixing it again.... Memory not what it used to be ;-)

I still prefer Pegasus Mail to anything else even with all the quirks under PoL.

 

&lt;p&gt;Have you tried installing wine/Pegasus Mail on both partitions and then just move the PMAIL directory (mail and programs) to the third drive and then create links (ln -s ) from the wine-directories to that third drive?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am running other software like that where I share some directories (not &lt;span class=&quot;tlid-translation translation&quot;&gt;&lt;span title=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;&quot;&gt;necessarily &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have been running Mint, PlayOnLinux (PoL) and Pegasus a couple of years now. It gets better and better. I have some problems with random crashes but never lost anything.Some things still not working, cannot use the buttons to copy/move etc. and auto-filters have the same effect for me. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Text looks like squares sometimes, I had that fixed before but it has reappeared and I just have not had the time to bother fixing it again.... Memory not what it used to be ;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still prefer Pegasus Mail to anything else even with all the quirks under PoL.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;

Sounds like the input message is not simple 7-bit ascii. It could be extended ascii by being defined as CP1252 charset?

Martin

&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the input message is not simple 7-bit ascii. It could be extended ascii by being defined as CP1252 charset?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Martin &lt;/p&gt;

You are correct in your assumption it is not 7-bit, it seems to be UTF-8, 8 bit:

Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=84rende_#41794554:FooBar_(IAN:_?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?293461)?=
Message-ID: <somenumber@ip>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer 5.2.9 (https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer/)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="b1_2029423ad9b627343972852747da0349"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Resent-Message-Id: <somenumber@mydomain.se>

--b1_2029423ad9b627343972852747da0349
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Then this text is turned into squares...

 

Since it is running under PoL, I am not to worried about it.

Last time if I remember correctly it was fixed with either installing some font in linux or adding a component in PoL config, I just don't remember and can't seem to retrace my steps...

&lt;p&gt;You are correct in your assumption it is not 7-bit, it seems to be UTF-8, 8 bit: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=84rende_#41794554:FooBar_(IAN:_?= &amp;nbsp;=?UTF-8?Q?293461)?= Message-ID: &amp;lt;somenumber@ip&amp;gt; X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer 5.2.9 (https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; boundary=&quot;b1_2029423ad9b627343972852747da0349&quot; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-Id: &amp;lt;somenumber@mydomain.se&amp;gt; --b1_2029423ad9b627343972852747da0349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Then this text is turned into squares...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since it is running under PoL, I am not to worried about it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last time if I remember correctly it was fixed with either installing some font in linux or adding a component in PoL config, I just don&#039;t remember and can&#039;t seem to retrace my steps... &lt;/p&gt;
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