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Is there a 'Black List' option in Pegasus whereby I can block emails from being received from some addresses, please? Recently, I have been inundated with unsolicited emails, mostly from the Far East, thinking I am some sort of engineering company! Thanks for any help.


Is there a 'Black List' option in Pegasus whereby I can block emails from being received from some addresses, please? Recently, I have been inundated with unsolicited emails, mostly from the Far East, thinking I am some sort of engineering company! Thanks for any help.

No, Pegasus Mail does not have an email address block list.


Pegasus Mail accesses mail on hosted mailboxes either via IMAP, or downloaded via POP3. The host normally has filtering capability. Creating a filter rule there that deletes the messages would prevent Pegasus Mail from ever seeing them.


If you are downloading with POP3, Pegasus Mail has extensive new mail filtering capability that could be used to detect these messages and then do any number of things with them, like move to a folder for review, or automatically delete. New mail filtering is in Tools > Mail filtering rules > Edit new mail filtering rules. The 'Rules applied when folder is opened' option is the one you want because it filters messages as they are received. If this is new to you, I suggest reviewing the information accessed by the Help button in the header of that window. The Pegasus Mail manual also has extensive information about filtering that may contain different insights than what is in the Help file.


If you are accessing the mail via IMAP, well, I can't help that. I am not familiar with the filtering capability of Pegasus Mail when access is by IMAP. Post back if this is the case. Someone else may be able to help.


No, Pegasus Mail does not have an email address block list. Pegasus Mail accesses mail on hosted mailboxes either via IMAP, or downloaded via POP3. The host normally has filtering capability. Creating a filter rule there that deletes the messages would prevent Pegasus Mail from ever seeing them. If you are downloading with POP3, Pegasus Mail has extensive new mail filtering capability that could be used to detect these messages and then do any number of things with them, like move to a folder for review, or automatically delete. New mail filtering is in Tools > Mail filtering rules > Edit new mail filtering rules. The 'Rules applied when folder is opened' option is the one you want because it filters messages as they are received. If this is new to you, I suggest reviewing the information accessed by the Help button in the header of that window. The Pegasus Mail manual also has extensive information about filtering that may contain different insights than what is in the Help file. If you are accessing the mail via IMAP, well, I can't help that. I am not familiar with the filtering capability of Pegasus Mail when access is by IMAP. Post back if this is the case. Someone else may be able to help.

There is a blacklist option that you can right-click on address and add it to the blacklist.
The messages are still downloaded, but then basically moved to a folder.


The file BLACK.PML contains the list of blacklisted emails.


Not sure exactly what it does with messages from these addresses?
Might move them to spam folder or move them to deleted mail folder.
I've only got one address in my black list folder?


Perhaps others have more detailed info. Didn't find much in Manual or Help.


There is a blacklist option that you can right-click on address and add it to the blacklist. The messages are still downloaded, but then basically moved to a folder. The file BLACK.PML contains the list of blacklisted emails. Not sure exactly what it does with messages from these addresses? Might move them to spam folder or move them to deleted mail folder. I've only got one address in my black list folder? Perhaps others have more detailed info. Didn't find much in Manual or Help.

mikes@guam.net

The BLACK.PML file is associated with the Basic Spam Detection set in Content Control.


I do not have a right-click context menu option for adding an address to a blacklist so there may be some other event or option that enables it. FWIW, I don't use Content Control, preferring filter rules. I had the Basic Spam Detection set disabled so I enabled it so see if it would activate an 'add to blacklist' right-click context menu option. It didn't. Enlightenment needed on this.


The BLACK.PML file is associated with the Basic Spam Detection set in Content Control. I do not have a right-click context menu option for adding an address to a blacklist so there may be some other event or option that enables it. FWIW, I don't use Content Control, preferring filter rules. I had the Basic Spam Detection set disabled so I enabled it so see if it would activate an 'add to blacklist' right-click context menu option. It didn't. Enlightenment needed on this.

Never disabled it, so wasn't aware that it even could be done?
Should have specified that it was right-clicking on the From: address to then add it to black list.


I've used that plus about 20 mail filter rules to move messages to specific folders.


Thanks for info. Will have to look at that stuff.


Never disabled it, so wasn't aware that it even could be done? Should have specified that it was right-clicking on the From: address to then add it to black list. I've used that plus about 20 mail filter rules to move messages to specific folders. Thanks for info. Will have to look at that stuff.

mikes@guam.net

When I click the From email address in the header of the reader window I get this:
671d662ea7556


When I click the From in the new mail folder list I get this:
671d6687896a7


When I click the From email address in the header of the reader window I get this: ![671d662ea7556](serve/attachment&path=671d662ea7556) When I click the From in the new mail folder list I get this: ![671d6687896a7](serve/attachment&path=671d6687896a7)

Thanks to Brian and msetzerii for their helpful replies. I am using POP3 to download messages.


I have tried the right click option suggested by msetzerii, and as long as you right-click on the email address in the message heading, then the first option displayed by Brian Fluet appears. Selecting the 'Add address to DList' sends a copy of the email address to the file BLACK.PML, as described by msetzerii. I have done this on my offending email and sure enough, when I look at the BLACK.PML LIST, the email address is there (the only one there because I have not used this feature before).


msetzerii says he is not sure what this distribution list does with the email addresses, and I am wondering the same. Time will tell if it blocks me receiving further emails from my offending address. If it doesn't, then I cannot see the point of building up a list of email addresses you don't want to receive emails from!


I have just had a thought. I am going to try putting the email address of one of the mailing groups I belong to from which I receive about 20 emails from every day, and see if it stops me receiving them. After the test, I will remove the address from BLACK.PML and go back to normal. I will report back after I have done that.


Thanks to Brian and msetzerii for their helpful replies. I am using POP3 to download messages. I have tried the right click option suggested by msetzerii, and as long as you right-click on the email address in the message heading, then the first option displayed by Brian Fluet appears. Selecting the 'Add address to DList' sends a copy of the email address to the file BLACK.PML, as described by msetzerii. I have done this on my offending email and sure enough, when I look at the BLACK.PML LIST, the email address is there (the only one there because I have not used this feature before). msetzerii says he is not sure what this distribution list does with the email addresses, and I am wondering the same. Time will tell if it blocks me receiving further emails from my offending address. If it doesn't, then I cannot see the point of building up a list of email addresses you don't want to receive emails from! I have just had a thought. I am going to try putting the email address of one of the mailing groups I belong to from which I receive about 20 emails from every day, and see if it stops me receiving them. After the test, I will remove the address from BLACK.PML and go back to normal. I will report back after I have done that.

Think a basic mail filter rule would be to add a listscan rule.


For me it got added to the WINRULES.PMC


If ListScan "@BLACK.PML" Move "00C0FD35:667E:JUNK"

Clicked on the add new mail filter rule on open.
Then selected listscan option and selected the Blacklist list and used the Move option, and selected my Junk folder. Would do this for testing, but later if it works the way you want, could select option to just delete option.


This way if new addresses need to be blocked, you just be adding the email to the blacklist rather than having to create a new rule for each address.


Think a basic mail filter rule would be to add a listscan rule. For me it got added to the WINRULES.PMC If ListScan "@BLACK.PML" Move "00C0FD35:667E:JUNK" Clicked on the add new mail filter rule on open. Then selected listscan option and selected the Blacklist list and used the Move option, and selected my Junk folder. Would do this for testing, but later if it works the way you want, could select option to just delete option. This way if new addresses need to be blocked, you just be adding the email to the blacklist rather than having to create a new rule for each address.

mikes@guam.net

I'm wondering why nobody mentioned server side filtering using Pegasus Mail's POP3 filter rules yet? If using filter rules anyway why not doing it this way?


I'm wondering why nobody mentioned server side filtering using Pegasus Mail's POP3 filter rules yet? If using filter rules anyway why not doing it this way?
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I'm wondering why nobody mentioned server side filtering using Pegasus Mail's POP3 filter rules yet? If using filter rules anyway why not doing it this way?


Only because there hasn't been a sense about whether OP is comfortable with filtering rules. A filter, whether server side or local, would eliminate the question of what is happening with the messages, which BTW, has the default configuration of moving the messages to the "Junk or suspicious mail" folder. You find this by going to Tools > Spam and content control... > Content control... . You then select the "Basic Spam Detection" content test set then click the Edit button. In there are numerous tabs containing the configuration for that set.


[quote="pid:57140, uid:2133"]I'm wondering why nobody mentioned server side filtering using Pegasus Mail's POP3 filter rules yet? If using filter rules anyway why not doing it this way?[/quote] Only because there hasn't been a sense about whether OP is comfortable with filtering rules. A filter, whether server side or local, would eliminate the question of what is happening with the messages, which BTW, has the default configuration of moving the messages to the "Junk or suspicious mail" folder. You find this by going to Tools > Spam and content control... > Content control... . You then select the "Basic Spam Detection" content test set then click the Edit button. In there are numerous tabs containing the configuration for that set.

I have been trying different things this afternoon, and I think I have now cracked it! First, my idea to add the email address of one of my mailing groups to BLACK.PML didn't work because the emails from the group show the email address of the sender and not the email address of the mailing group.


I have been using Pegasus since 2002 and make extensive use of the Folder system to create my own filing system for all sorts of infomation I want to maintain. My Admin folder in C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ is over 15gB! I also make extensive use of the filtering rules so emails from the various mailing groups I belong to are moved into an individual folder for each group. I prefer reading all the emails from a particular group at the same time rather than have them all mixed up with those from other groups and my other emails in the In Box.


I have been using my wife's iPad and email address this afternoon to send emails to me to test the filtering rules as I try different options. After adding her email address to my Black list by right clicking her address in an email from her and selecting 'Add Address to DList' and then selecting 'Junkmail Blacklist', I went to the main filtering rules at Tools\Mail filtering rules\Edit new mail filtering rules\Rules applied when folder ius opened. This opens a window containing all the filtering options I have set. Click on 'Add rule' and this opens another window. Click on 'Scan list' (near the bottom) and in the first space click on 'Select' on the right side and in the window that opens, highlight 'Junkmail Blacklist' and click on 'Select' in top right corner.


This then takes you back to the previous window where you should see '@black.pml' in the first line. Now go to the second line and select the drop down menu on the right and choose what you want to happen to emails on your Black List. There are several option and for testing purposes, I selected 'Move'. Then click on 'Set' below the line and select which folder you want the emails moved to. (This is how I set the emails from my differnet mailing groups to be moved to their individual folders.) Again, for testing purposes, I selected my 'Junk and suspicious mail' folder. Double click on that folder and you will go back to the previous window where 'Junk and suspicious mail' should be alongside 'Paramter:'. Click on 'OK' and close the 'New mail filtering rules' window, that will have remained open, and make sure you save the changes in the small window that opens.

After doing that, emails from my wife's iPad showed up in my 'Junk and suspicious mail' folder, where previously they had been showing up in my In Box, showing the filtering rule was working. I then deleted my wife's email address from my Black List and went back to the 'New mail filtering rules' window where I could see '@black.pml' listed. Double click on it and in the second line I changed the 'Move' option to 'Delete'. and closed it, making suire to save the changes again. Now, all emails on my Black List should be deleted and presumably I will not see them. I don't have a way to check this, and only time will tell if I stop receiving these unsolicited emails. I will report back here in due course.

This is basically the same method that msetzerii described earlier this afternoon and I thank him for sharing it with us.


I have been trying different things this afternoon, and I think I have now cracked it! First, my idea to add the email address of one of my mailing groups to BLACK.PML didn't work because the emails from the group show the email address of the sender and not the email address of the mailing group. I have been using Pegasus since 2002 and make extensive use of the Folder system to create my own filing system for all sorts of infomation I want to maintain. My Admin folder in C:\PMAIL\MAIL\ is over 15gB! I also make extensive use of the filtering rules so emails from the various mailing groups I belong to are moved into an individual folder for each group. I prefer reading all the emails from a particular group at the same time rather than have them all mixed up with those from other groups and my other emails in the In Box. I have been using my wife's iPad and email address this afternoon to send emails to me to test the filtering rules as I try different options. After adding her email address to my Black list by right clicking her address in an email from her and selecting 'Add Address to DList' and then selecting 'Junkmail Blacklist', I went to the main filtering rules at Tools\Mail filtering rules\Edit new mail filtering rules\Rules applied when folder ius opened. This opens a window containing all the filtering options I have set. Click on 'Add rule' and this opens another window. Click on 'Scan list' (near the bottom) and in the first space click on 'Select' on the right side and in the window that opens, highlight 'Junkmail Blacklist' and click on 'Select' in top right corner. This then takes you back to the previous window where you should see '@black.pml' in the first line. Now go to the second line and select the drop down menu on the right and choose what you want to happen to emails on your Black List. There are several option and for testing purposes, I selected 'Move'. Then click on 'Set' below the line and select which folder you want the emails moved to. (This is how I set the emails from my differnet mailing groups to be moved to their individual folders.) Again, for testing purposes, I selected my 'Junk and suspicious mail' folder. Double click on that folder and you will go back to the previous window where 'Junk and suspicious mail' should be alongside 'Paramter:'. Click on 'OK' and close the 'New mail filtering rules' window, that will have remained open, and make sure you save the changes in the small window that opens. After doing that, emails from my wife's iPad showed up in my 'Junk and suspicious mail' folder, where previously they had been showing up in my In Box, showing the filtering rule was working. I then deleted my wife's email address from my Black List and went back to the 'New mail filtering rules' window where I could see '@black.pml' listed. Double click on it and in the second line I changed the 'Move' option to 'Delete'. and closed it, making suire to save the changes again. Now, all emails on my Black List should be deleted and presumably I will not see them. I don't have a way to check this, and only time will tell if I stop receiving these unsolicited emails. I will report back here in due course. This is basically the same method that msetzerii described earlier this afternoon and I thank him for sharing it with us.

Several thoughts...


Content Control filtering happens before new mail filtering so if its Basic Spam Detection set is enabled, and you add addresses to BLACK.PML, those messages will never be run through the new mail filters.


Click on 'Scan list' (near the bottom) and in the first space click on 'Select' on the right side and in the window that opens, highlight 'Junkmail Blacklist'


I would do this in new mail filtering solely because I think it is easier to see the addresses being acted up by looking in the filtering rules rather than having to look in the BLACK.PML file. In my new mail filtering rules I would call a label named "Unwanted mail" in which I would detect each unwanted message and act on it with an "Always Delete" action. Thinking about the Pegasus Mail listserv support mailing list, posts to it arrive as emails that contain the list email address as the To: and the posters email address as the From:. Filtering on the From: won't work but on the To: will, so I might do something like this:


Always call label "Unwanted mail"
.
.
Always Exit this rule set
Label "Unwanted mail"
If To contains 'mailinglist@abc.com' Always Delete
If From contain 'ImBadNews.xyz' Always Delete
.
.
Always Return from call


Now, all emails on my Black List should be deleted and presumably I will not see them. I don't have a way to check this, and only time will tell if I stop receiving these unsolicited emails. I will report back here in due course.


There is an option in Pegasus Mail called "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". Enabling it will allow you to see the deleted messages because they will be moved to a folder named "Deleted Messages". This folder is dynamic. It is created when the first message deletion occurs in a Pegasus Mail session and is deleted when Pegasus Mail is closed.


Several thoughts... Content Control filtering happens before new mail filtering so if its Basic Spam Detection set is enabled, and you add addresses to BLACK.PML, those messages will never be run through the new mail filters. [quote="pid:57143, uid:11088"]Click on 'Scan list' (near the bottom) and in the first space click on 'Select' on the right side and in the window that opens, highlight 'Junkmail Blacklist'[/quote] I would do this in new mail filtering solely because I think it is easier to see the addresses being acted up by looking in the filtering rules rather than having to look in the BLACK.PML file. In my new mail filtering rules I would call a label named "Unwanted mail" in which I would detect each unwanted message and act on it with an "Always Delete" action. Thinking about the Pegasus Mail listserv support mailing list, posts to it arrive as emails that contain the list email address as the To: and the posters email address as the From:. Filtering on the From: won't work but on the To: will, so I might do something like this: Always call label "Unwanted mail" . . Always Exit this rule set Label "Unwanted mail" If To contains 'mailinglist@abc.com' Always Delete If From contain 'ImBadNews.xyz' Always Delete . . Always Return from call [quote="pid:57143, uid:11088"]Now, all emails on my Black List should be deleted and presumably I will not see them. I don't have a way to check this, and only time will tell if I stop receiving these unsolicited emails. I will report back here in due course.[/quote] There is an option in Pegasus Mail called "Preserve deleted messages until Pegasus Mail closes". Enabling it will allow you to see the deleted messages because they will be moved to a folder named "Deleted Messages". This folder is dynamic. It is created when the first message deletion occurs in a Pegasus Mail session and is deleted when Pegasus Mail is closed.
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