I think the original poster really wanted to be able to minimise to the tray and you can do that.

Hi,

I'm a new user to Pegasus and have 3 or 4 questions that I can't readily find answers to:

1, Is it possible to setup so that minimise to the Windows System Tray can be done via the big red 'X' button rather than the minimise window to the taskbar button?

2,  On a restore from the System Tray is it possible to setup so that Pegasus opens on Top of other windows rather than minimised to the taskbar?

3, Is there a shortcut to jump to certain names when browsing a large folder rather than starting a search? This feature is really useful if you have a large folder, sort it by name and then want to jump to 'Jones' for example. 

Many thanks

Keir    

On 3 Oct 2008 12:36 Pegasus Mail & Mercury - Automated Email <NoReply@praktit.se> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I'm a new user to Pegasus and have 3 or 4 questions that I can't
> readily find answers to:
>
> 1,  Is it possible to setup so that minimise to the Windows System Tray
>     can be done via the big red 'X' button rather than the minimise
>     window to the taskbar button?

Yes, checkout Tools | Options | Reporting/logging

Place an icon in the Windows System Tray (Win32 version only)  When this control is checked, Pegasus Mail will add its icon to the Windows system tray when you minimize it. You can reactivate Pegasus Mail at any time by double-clicking the system tray icon. This option has three sub-options:

Animate the icon when new mail arrives  The system tray icon will flap its wings when you have new mail (we think this looks pretty neat). If the telltale window (see above) is disabled, right-clicking the system tray icon will open the telltale with a report about the new mail waiting for you.

Only display the icon when Pegasus Mail is minimized  When this control is checked, the system tray icon will only be added to the system tray when the program is minimized to the task bar. If you have many system tray icons, you may prefer this effect.

Hide the Pegasus Mail taskbar entry when minimized  When this control is checked, the regular Pegasus Mail button on the Windows taskbar will be hidden when the program is minimized, leaving only the system tray icon to indicate that it is running. Enabling this option saves space on the task bar, but means that you cannot use Alt+Tab to switch back to Pegasus Mail - you can only switch back by double-clicking the system tray icon.

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> 2,   On a restore from the System Tray is it possible to setup so that
>     Pegasus opens on Top of other windows rather than minimised to the
>     taskbar?

The first double click brings it to the taskbar, the second brings it to the top.


>
> 3,  Is there a shortcut to jump to certain names when browsing a large
>     folder rather than starting a search? This feature is really useful
>     if you have a large folder, sort it by name and then want to jump to
>     'Jones' for example. 

You can use the "Select" button to sort the messages by attributes and bring these to the top.


>
> Many thanks
>
> Keir   
>
>  
>
>

With respect to Thomas, whose contributions to this website are quite simply superb, I think he missed the crux of the point here.

[quote user="keir"]

Is it possible to setup so that minimise to the Windows System Tray can be done via the big red 'X' button rather than the minimise window to the taskbar button?

MSN Messenger and some other programs do not close and unload themselves when the close icon (big red X) is clicked. Instead, they minimise to the taskbar. There is not, as far as I am aware, any way to do this in Pegasus at present. I dislike that behaviour anyway because it is inconsistent with the general user expectation of the big red X.

[quote user="Sharkfin"]MSN Messenger and some other programs do not close and unload themselves when the close icon (big red X) is clicked. Instead, they minimise to the taskbar. There is not, as far as I am aware, any way to do this in Pegasus at present. I dislike that behaviour anyway because it is inconsistent with the general user expectation of the big red X.[/quote]

Presumably the OP is referring to the lower 'Stop connection' button and not the standard window close button.  I can't see any use in breaking the connection and minimizing the program in one button.

There's a growing trend for programs that often run in the background to minimise to the system tray via the big red 'X', amongst them are for sure some mail programs but also other standard icons such as sound, power, firewalls , anti virus& network. Essentially these are programs that you would normally expect to be running. This leaves the minimise button for minimising to the toolbar and allows file, exit to be used to terminate the program.

[quote user="keir"]There's a growing trend for programs that often run in the background to minimise to the system tray via the big red 'X', amongst them are for sure some mail programs but also other standard icons such as sound, power, firewalls , anti virus& network. Essentially these are programs that you would normally expect to be running. This leaves the minimise button for minimising to the toolbar and allows file, exit to be used to terminate the program.[/quote]

It is a growing trend for those service type applications but it is not for programs that I can see.   There may be email programs that do not close with the red "Close" buttons are hit but Pegasus Mail, Thunderbird, OE, Eudora, Mulberry and Outlook 2002 do not on my system.  The red "X" is specified by MS as close, I would expect any non-service type application to close when I hit close.

You're right Thomas, but I do think that it would be a nice optional feature to add to Pegasus Mail a "hard-to-quit" function. It is not a service but you can wish to have it always running and advertise you when a new mail arrives.

Regards

You're right Thomas, but I do think that it would be a nice optional

feature to add to Pegasus Mail a "hard-to-quit" function. It is not a

service but you can wish to have it always running and advertise you

when a new mail arrives.

Again, I'm not sure why.  A minimize instead of a close works quite well for most applications.  Now Mercury/32 does have the "hard to quit" since it is a server and you do not want to accidently close it.  However since WinPMail is a mail client, it pretty much should operate like most all mail clients; close means close, minimize means minimize.  You can minimize to the tray only if you want.

Yes but you can see it another way : you want it minimized and don't want to close it accidentally, so a solution could be to offer the choice between the way it is actually closed (File/Quit or X) and another one (File/Quit to close and X to minimise). Then the user can tune it exactly how he/she wants PM to act.

The problem that would remain is that if you close Windows while PM is mimized will result by a bad way of closing PM and will give an error when running it again.

Regards

Yes but you can see it another way : you want it minimized and don't

want to close it accidentally, so a solution could be to offer the

choice between the way it is actually closed (File/Quit or X) and

another one (File/Quit to close and X to minimise). Then the user can

tune it exactly how he/she wants PM to act.

We really do not want "just another option" people are complaining now it way to difficult for the average user to setup and use.  What about Word?  I close Word and I did not want to so I simply open is again.  This is a program it's not a server, or a background function like an anti-virus program, clock monitor etc.  I can see it now, another reviewer saying the program could not be cloased via the close button.  It's non-standard and you certainly can put it in as a feature request but I doubt if you'll ever see it unless an overwhelming number of the users push for it.

 The problem that would remain is that if you close Windows while PM is

mimized will result by a bad way of closing PM and will give an error

when running it again.

Closing windows without closing WinPMail should not be more than a minor problem.  If Windows does not give the program enough time to write all it's files before closing the program all that would happen is the current changes would not be fully saved.  I just had a major loss of power and the UPS battery ran out before the power was restored and there was no problem with WinPMail at all.

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

Yes but you can see it another way : you want it minimized and don't

want to close it accidentally, so a solution could be to offer the

choice between the way it is actually closed (File/Quit or X) and

another one (File/Quit to close and X to minimise). Then the user can

tune it exactly how he/she wants PM to act.

We really do not want "just another option" people are complaining now it way to difficult for the average user to setup and use.  What about Word?  I close Word and I did not want to so I simply open is again.  This is a program it's not a server, or a background function like an anti-virus program, clock monitor etc.  I can see it now, another reviewer saying the program could not be cloased via the close button.  It's non-standard and you certainly can put it in as a feature request but I doubt if you'll ever see it unless an overwhelming number of the users push for it.[/quote]

 The difference is that the only way for Word to receive datas is  to have someone typing on the keyboard, Pegasus Mail can receive mails while the user is doing something else (typing things in Word for example). If the average user don't change the default setting PM will continue to act as usual : closed when clicking on X. I remember someone talking of that a few years ago (on the beta test list?).

[quote]

 The problem that would remain is that if you close Windows while PM is

mimized will result by a bad way of closing PM and will give an error

when running it again.

Closing windows without closing WinPMail should not be more than a minor problem.  If Windows does not give the program enough time to write all it's files before closing the program all that would happen is the current changes would not be fully saved.  I just had a major loss of power and the UPS battery ran out before the power was restored and there was no problem with WinPMail at all.

 [/quote]

It happens to me quite often to quit windows without having closed PM, the result is that the .lck file is not deleted by PM and an error (small one) occurs the next time I launch it.

Regards