Pegasus Mail Suggestions
Integrated macro recorder for PM

[quote user="aderoy"]

I tend to use an application called AutoIt v3 for this type of 'helper'. Makes my old day job managable to say the least.

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Aderoy,
Yes, I had a brief look at AutoIt some time ago and I think it is very powerful tool. However, the PM Macro Recorder, the way I envisage it, would be well integrated into PM and also address less advanced users who may shy away from something like AutoIt.
Thanks
Thomas
 

[quote user="aderoy"]<p>I tend to use an application called AutoIt v3 for this type of 'helper'. Makes my old day job managable to say the least.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Aderoy, Yes, I had a brief look at AutoIt some time ago and I think it is very powerful tool. However, the PM Macro Recorder, the way I envisage it, would be well integrated into PM and also address less advanced users who may shy away from something like AutoIt. Thanks Thomas  </p>

Using PM for quite some years and following many of the discussions here, made me realise that many of the requests for (more easy access to) functions could most likely be solved by adding some fundamental macro recording feature to PM which would allow users to basically build their own functionality into PM.

What I feel is missing, and what I want to suggest, is an option to access all the functions as well as settings and a combination of settings and functions, and then easily attach this process e.g. to an icon or keystroke in order to streamline the work process. This could be done with a small macro recorder which records a series of clicks and keystrokes and then allows to save the macro and attached it to an icon (or key stroke). I use this in other applications (such my old MS Word 97) to streamline often cumbersome repetitive processes or to quickly access a function which is normally hidden somewhere deep in the function or settings tree.

I find this extremely helpful as it gives me a lot of flexibility to customise PM in order to suit exactly my needs. Any thoughts on this?

Cheers

Thomas


Using PM for quite some years and following many of the discussions here, made me realise that many of the requests for (more easy access to) functions could most likely be solved by adding some fundamental <b>macro recording feature to PM </b>which would allow users to basically build their own functionality into PM. What I feel is missing, and what I want to suggest, is an option to access all the functions as well as settings and a combination of settings and functions, and then easily attach this process e.g. to an icon or keystroke in order to streamline the work process. This could be done with a small macro recorder which records a series of clicks and keystrokes and then allows to save the macro and attached it to an icon (or key stroke). I use this in other applications (such my old MS Word 97) to streamline often cumbersome repetitive processes or to quickly access a function which is normally hidden somewhere deep in the function or settings tree. I find this extremely helpful as it gives me a lot of flexibility to customise PM in order to suit exactly my needs. Any thoughts on this? Cheers Thomas

Hi !

Well, I made a similar suggestion some time ago, on this forum or on the mailing list, about adding some scripting capabilities. If I remember correctly, this suggestion was discarded because it would diminish Pegasus Mail's security level. I am sure you will have some more accurate opinion on your suggestion, but I think maybe macro registering would do the same. At least, it can convey some virus in Word, that's why I am saying that. That said, isn't the development kit already a tool to make or integrate what you want into the software ?

As for the poll, maybe you should add "No, because it will compromise security". Glad to see I am not the only one using polls, we just have to wait for participation.

Cheers !

Whiskyfizz.

<p>Hi !</p><p>Well, I made a similar suggestion some time ago, on this forum or on the mailing list, about adding some scripting capabilities. If I remember correctly, this suggestion was discarded because it would diminish Pegasus Mail's security level. I am sure you will have some more accurate opinion on your suggestion, but I think maybe macro registering would do the same. At least, it can convey some virus in Word, that's why I am saying that. That said, isn't the development kit already a tool to make or integrate what you want into the software ?</p><p>As for the poll, maybe you should add "No, because it will compromise security". Glad to see I am not the only one using polls, we just have to wait for participation.</p><p>Cheers !</p><p>Whiskyfizz. </p>

I tend to use an application called AutoIt v3 for this type of 'helper'. Makes my old day job managable to say the least.

<P>I tend to use an application called AutoIt v3 for this type of 'helper'. Makes my old day job managable to say the least.</P>

[quote user="whiskyfizz"]

Hi !

Well, I made a similar suggestion some time ago, on this forum or on the mailing list, about adding some scripting capabilities. If I remember correctly, this suggestion was discarded because it would diminish Pegasus Mail's security level. I am sure you will have some more accurate opinion on your suggestion, but I think maybe macro registering would do the same. At least, it can convey some virus in Word, that's why I am saying that. That said, isn't the development kit already a tool to make or integrate what you want into the software ?

As for the poll, maybe you should add "No, because it will compromise security". Glad to see I am not the only one using polls, we just have to wait for participation.

Cheers !

Whiskyfizz.

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Thanks Whiskyfizz,

I guess that most macro capabilities would also be linked to some sort of (manual) scripting language as it is in MS Word with Visual Basic . Even I am not a real programmer myself I would think that this would not necessarily be the case? However, it would definitely make sense to have macro recording and scripting linked providing bigger flexibility and addressing a wider group of users. Someone could easily 'click record' some macros (scripts) and then integrate them into the work process e.g. through an icon without knowing much of the coding itself whereas other more advanced users could directly code the scripts and processes they need.

However, if the manual scripting may cause security breaches (which I assume is the part which creates vulnerability?) I would still opt for the macro recording option which may not provide manual coding options. Maybe someone with more insight could explain why scripting would create a security risk?

Nevertheless, I personally would see a difference between a MS Word macro and a PM Macro. MS Word macros may be saved within the MS Word document and hence when documents are exchanged the macros are exchanged as well and some nasty code maybe transferred. In PM this would not be the case as macros would not be related to any emails which are being exchanged.

Concerning the poll. I think its a good way to get an idea and more tangible results concerning some issues. I could have added the 'security' issues to it but changing a poll after it started tweaks the results. In addition, I still do not know how the scripting / macros would compromise security.

Cheers

Thomas
 

[quote user="whiskyfizz"]<p>Hi !</p><p>Well, I made a similar suggestion some time ago, on this forum or on the mailing list, about adding some scripting capabilities. If I remember correctly, this suggestion was discarded because it would diminish Pegasus Mail's security level. I am sure you will have some more accurate opinion on your suggestion, but I think maybe macro registering would do the same. At least, it can convey some virus in Word, that's why I am saying that. That said, isn't the development kit already a tool to make or integrate what you want into the software ?</p><p>As for the poll, maybe you should add "No, because it will compromise security". Glad to see I am not the only one using polls, we just have to wait for participation.</p><p>Cheers !</p><p>Whiskyfizz. </p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Thanks Whiskyfizz, I guess that most macro capabilities would also be linked to some sort of (manual) scripting language as it is in MS Word with Visual Basic . Even I am not a real programmer myself I would think that this would not necessarily be the case? However, it would definitely make sense to have macro recording and scripting linked providing bigger flexibility and addressing a wider group of users. Someone could easily 'click record' some macros (scripts) and then integrate them into the work process e.g. through an icon without knowing much of the coding itself whereas other more advanced users could directly code the scripts and processes they need. However, if the manual scripting may cause security breaches (which I assume is the part which creates vulnerability?) I would still opt for the macro recording option which may not provide manual coding options. Maybe someone with more insight could explain why scripting would create a security risk? Nevertheless, I personally would see a difference between a MS Word macro and a PM Macro. MS Word macros may be saved within the MS Word document and hence when documents are exchanged the macros are exchanged as well and some nasty code maybe transferred. In PM this would not be the case as macros would not be related to any emails which are being exchanged. Concerning the poll. I think its a good way to get an idea and more tangible results concerning some issues. I could have added the 'security' issues to it but changing a poll after it started tweaks the results. In addition, I still do not know how the scripting / macros would compromise security. Cheers Thomas  </p>
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