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Configuration of Mercury with ThunderBird

You could try running a "virtual SMTP server" like Loa PowerTools (bit.ly/3SaEPZ) on your own machine. It looks to applications on the local machine as though it's an SMTP server running on 'localhost' (or 127.0.0.1) but is connected (via Port 443, the secure http port) to a real SMTP server running elsewhere. You can find a discussion of it in connection with Port 25 blocks and ISPs at bit.ly/G46Pm and on a blog at bit.ly/bBjiNw.

You could try running a "virtual SMTP server" like Loa PowerTools (<a href="http://bit.ly/3SaEPZ">bit.ly/3SaEPZ</a>) on your own machine. It looks to applications on the local machine as though it's an SMTP server running on 'localhost' (or 127.0.0.1) but is connected (via Port 443, the secure http port) to a real SMTP server running elsewhere. You can find a discussion of it in connection with Port 25 blocks and ISPs at<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><a style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102, 153, 255); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; " href="http://bit.ly/G46Pm">bit.ly/G46Pm</a> and on a blog at </span><a href="http://bit.ly/bBjiNw">bit.ly/bBjiNw</a>.

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Hi all;

 

I am new to the subject of running my own smtp mail server but what I want is to run Mercury on my local machine and I create my mail in ThunderBird using my existing email which is an @gmail.com address. I guess what I am trying to do is Relay it to Mercury???

 

Right now I have MyDomain.com and MyDomain@gmail.com as my email address and smtp.gmail.com as my SMTP server for my Locally ThunderBird produced outbound email. I am running Windows XP Home Edition.

 

My understanding is that I could use Mercury and be completely free of Gmail for sending and receiving and my users can have emails users@MyDomian.com but thats for future projects when I have clue.

 

Can someone hand hold me thru the process of setting Mercury up to relay

 

ThunderBird to Mercury to the Recipient.

 

Thanks

 

&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = &quot;urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office&quot; /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Hi all;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;I am new to the subject of running my own smtp mail server but what I want is to run Mercury on my local machine and I create my mail in ThunderBird using my existing email which is an @gmail.com address. I guess what I am trying to do is Relay it to Mercury???&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Right now I have MyDomain.com and MyDomain@gmail.com as my email address and smtp.gmail.com as my SMTP server for my Locally ThunderBird produced outbound email. I am running Windows XP Home Edition.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;My understanding is that I could use Mercury and be completely free of Gmail for sending and receiving and my users can have emails users@MyDomian.com but thats for future projects when I have clue.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Can someone hand hold me thru the process of setting Mercury up to relay&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;ThunderBird to Mercury to the Recipient.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Thanks&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT size=3 face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

That's actually direct delivery from Mercury, not relaying. To do that you will need a fixed IP address with a reverse DNS (PTR) record, as well as an Internet provider that allows you to use port 25 inbound and outbound.

Use default setup of Mercury with MercuryE as delivery module, and be sure to follow the instructions for local domains settings carefully.

/Rolf

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s actually direct delivery from Mercury, not relaying. To do that you will need a fixed IP address with a reverse DNS (PTR) record, as well as an Internet provider that allows you to use port 25 inbound and outbound.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use default setup of Mercury with MercuryE as delivery module, and be sure to follow the instructions for local domains settings carefully. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;/Rolf &lt;/p&gt;

Thanks for the reply;

Thats what I first thought, it was end to end mailing what I was trying to do so installed MercuryE. but when I tried sending Mercury gave me the error that it doesnt permit SMTP relaying of non local mail. So i unchecked that setting preventing relaying and it tried to send but i get Invalid handshake error.

Connection error during handshake with . (who is dot?)
Failed

On the port 25 subject, couldnt i configure Mercury to use a different port? I think its blocked, not one hundrd percent sure.

I dont understand why Mercury sees this as a relay job; this is an example of my ThunderBird headers with my actuals emails removed
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From - Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010
X-Mozilla-Status: 0800
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
FCC: mailbox://SendingAccount@gmail.com/Sent
X-Identity-Key: id3
X-Account-Key: account4
Message-ID: <4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010
From: Sender <SendingAccount@gmail.com>
Reply-To: SendingAccount@gmail.com
X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=1; uuencode=0
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Recipient@gmail.com
Subject: Subject Line
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Email Body
------------------------------------------------------

&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Thats what I first thought, it was end to end mailing what I was trying to do so installed MercuryE.&amp;nbsp;but when I tried sending Mercury gave me the error that it doesnt permit SMTP relaying of non local mail. So i unchecked that setting preventing relaying and it tried to send but i get Invalid handshake error.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Connection error during handshake with . (who is dot?) Failed&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;On the port 25 subject, couldnt i configure Mercury to use a different port? I think its blocked, not one hundrd percent sure.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I dont understand why Mercury sees this as a relay job; this is an example of my ThunderBird headers with my actuals emails removed ------------------------------------------------------ From - Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010 X-Mozilla-Status: 0800 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: FCC: mailbox://SendingAccount@gmail.com/Sent X-Identity-Key: id3 X-Account-Key: account4 Message-ID: &amp;lt;&lt;A href=&quot;mailto:4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com&quot;&gt;4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010 From: Sender &amp;lt;&lt;A href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot;&gt;SendingAccount@gmail.com&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt; Reply-To: &lt;A href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot;&gt;SendingAccount@gmail.com&lt;/A&gt; X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=1; uuencode=0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: &lt;A href=&quot;mailto:Recipient@gmail.com&quot;&gt;Recipient@gmail.com&lt;/A&gt; Subject: Subject Line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Email Body ------------------------------------------------------ &lt;/P&gt;

[quote user="brandon007"]

Thanks for the reply;

Thats what I first thought, it was end to end mailing what I was trying to do so installed MercuryE. but when I tried sending Mercury gave me the error that it doesnt permit SMTP relaying of non local mail. So i unchecked that setting preventing relaying [/quote]That setting is there to prevent you becoming an open relay, shortly followed by becoming a source of large amounts of spam, shortly followed by being added to every blacklist there is.

Turn it back on, and read the help section on relaying and Local Domains.[quote]and it tried to send but i get Invalid handshake error.

Connection error during handshake with . (who is dot?)
Failed

On the port 25 subject, couldnt i configure Mercury to use a different port? I think its blocked, not one hundrd percent sure.

[/quote]If your ISP is blocking port 25, you will need to send using MercC via an SMTP relay server (either your ISP's or another one offering an alternate SMTP submission port). All (public) SMTP direct delivery is done on port 25. [quote]

I dont understand why Mercury sees this as a relay job;[/quote]Because you are sending from a non-local address to another non-local address, read the help section on Local Domains.[quote] this is an example of my ThunderBird headers with my actuals emails removed
------------------------------------------------------
From - Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010
X-Mozilla-Status: 0800
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
FCC: mailbox://SendingAccount@gmail.com/Sent
X-Identity-Key: id3
X-Account-Key: account4
Message-ID: <4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010
From: Sender <SendingAccount@gmail.com>
Reply-To: SendingAccount@gmail.com
X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=1; uuencode=0
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Recipient@gmail.com
Subject: Subject Line
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Email Body
------------------------------------------------------

[/quote]
[quote user=&quot;brandon007&quot;]&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reply;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thats what I first thought, it was end to end mailing what I was trying to do so installed MercuryE.&amp;nbsp;but when I tried sending Mercury gave me the error that it doesnt permit SMTP relaying of non local mail. So i unchecked that setting preventing relaying [/quote]That setting is there to prevent you becoming an open relay, shortly followed by becoming a source of large amounts of spam, shortly followed by being added to every blacklist there is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Turn it back on, and read the help section on relaying and Local Domains.[quote]and it tried to send but i get Invalid handshake error.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Connection error during handshake with . (who is dot?) Failed&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;On the port 25 subject, couldnt i configure Mercury to use a different port? I think its blocked, not one hundrd percent sure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[/quote]If your ISP is blocking port 25, you will need to send using MercC via an SMTP relay server (either your ISP&#039;s or another one offering an alternate SMTP submission port). All (public) SMTP direct delivery is done on port 25. [quote] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I dont understand why Mercury sees this as a relay job;[/quote]Because you are sending from a non-local address to another non-local address, read the help section on Local Domains.[quote] this is an example of my ThunderBird headers with my actuals emails removed ------------------------------------------------------ From - Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010 X-Mozilla-Status: 0800 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: FCC: mailbox://SendingAccount@gmail.com/Sent X-Identity-Key: id3 X-Account-Key: account4 Message-ID: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com&quot; mce_href=&quot;mailto:4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com&quot;&gt;4C20FE63.5080709@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Tue Jun 22 12:40:11 2010 From: Sender &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot; mce_href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot;&gt;SendingAccount@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; Reply-To: &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot; mce_href=&quot;mailto:SendingAccount@gmail.com&quot;&gt;SendingAccount@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=1; uuencode=0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Recipient@gmail.com&quot; mce_href=&quot;mailto:Recipient@gmail.com&quot;&gt;Recipient@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Subject: Subject Line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Email Body ------------------------------------------------------ &lt;/p&gt;[/quote]
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