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Quick followup -

 Jerry - you nailed it. Everything's working quite nicely now. Thanks a million.

 I did download and install 4.51. Painless. 

 

<p>Quick followup -</p><p> Jerry - you nailed it. Everything's working quite nicely now. Thanks a million.</p><p> I did download and install 4.51. Painless. </p><p> </p>

Greetings;

New to the forum but a long time PMail user.

I've had a few recipients receive my replies displayed as HTML code rather than ascii text. I've spent quite some time searching through the options in my Pegasus setup and can't find anything that would suggest the Pegasus can even do such a thing.

 What am I missing?

 

 

<p>Greetings; New to the forum but a long time PMail user. I've had a few recipients receive my replies displayed as HTML code rather than ascii text. I've spent quite some time searching through the options in my Pegasus setup and can't find anything that would suggest the Pegasus can even do such a thing. </p><p> What am I missing?</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[quote user="denniss"]I've had a few recipients receive my replies displayed as HTML code rather than ascii text. I've spent quite some time searching through the options in my Pegasus setup and can't find anything that would suggest the Pegasus can even do such a thing. [/quote]

What are you talking about: a display option or an editor option? What email application do the recipients use? What is "such thing"?

<p>[quote user="denniss"]I've had a few recipients receive my replies displayed as HTML code rather than ascii text. I've spent quite some time searching through the options in my Pegasus setup and can't find anything that would suggest the Pegasus can even do such a thing. [/quote]</p><p>What are you talking about: a display option or an editor option? What email application do the recipients use? What is "such thing"?</p>
			Michael
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Greetings Michael;

Frankly I'm not sure what I'm talking about. What happens is often some mail recipients, those to whom I've sent a message or more, tell me that message is displayed on their system as HTML code. But not always and not always the same recipients. It's really quite bizarre. Is there or are there options to control how a message is displayed at the other end? I've been using Pegasus practically since its genesis and have never had this problem until recently.

 I've set up my Pegasus  as a server to forward the wife's mail to her machine over our home LAN. She uses her name along with my virtual domain name which Peg filters and forwards to her. Pretty standard stuff. Recently I opened Peg using her user name but did so on my computer in order to try to debug some issues she was having. Afterwards I opened the program using my user name as usual only to find many of the program options had been re-set to defaults and/or changed for some reason. Annoying but not life altering. I just re-set all my option preferences back to what I had before. Or so I thought.

That's about the time some folks started receiving the code instead of straight ascii.

Here is the "Info" from the Pegasus Help/About window:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 WinPMail version: V4.12a (Win32), Jun 19 2003
Language resources: Standard UK English resource set
Extension Manager version: 1.12
Operating mode: Standalone
User name and ID: dennis, 0
Windows version: 5.1
Windows flag word: 0
WINPMAIL.EXE directory: C:\PMAIL
Home mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\dennis
New mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\dennis
TMP environment variable: C:\DOCUME~1\Dennis\LOCALS~1\Temp
TEMP environment variable: C:\DOCUME~1\Dennis\LOCALS~1\Temp
LAN-based SMTP support: N, N, N
NetWare MHS support: N, N, N
Built-in TCP/IP support: Enabled
  - WINSOCK version: WinSock 2.0
  - WINSOCK path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.DLL
Commandline: -A -E server.txt -Z 17152
Active -Z options: 49920
PMR variable: (None)
PML variable: (None)
MAI variable: (None)
NB variable: (None)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email client(s) at the other end vary. Outlook is fairly common however I forwarded an email to the wife, again over the LAN and it displayed on her machine, also running Pegasus, as this pesky code. All I did was open, read and forward the message. Didn't do any editing while I had it displayed. The Raw view of that message read on her computer didn't indicate any telltale initiation of HTML but did show it as code again.

What I mean about Pmail not being able to do "such a thing" is that I find no option among all the setup options that imply that Peg would or could translate an email into HTML prior to sending. Unless I'm missing something somewhere. I send stuff to myself and it arrives fine. Normal character text.

It's driving me mad!

 

<p>Greetings Michael;</p><p>Frankly I'm not sure what I'm talking about. What happens is often some mail recipients, those to whom I've sent a message or more, tell me that message is displayed on their system as HTML code. But not always and not always the same recipients. It's really quite bizarre. Is there or are there options to control how a message is displayed at the other end? I've been using Pegasus practically since its genesis and have never had this problem until recently.</p><p> I've set up my Pegasus  as a server to forward the wife's mail to her machine over our home LAN. She uses her name along with my virtual domain name which Peg filters and forwards to her. Pretty standard stuff. Recently I opened Peg using her user name but did so on my computer in order to try to debug some issues she was having. Afterwards I opened the program using my user name as usual only to find many of the program options had been re-set to defaults and/or changed for some reason. Annoying but not life altering. I just re-set all my option preferences back to what I had before. Or so I thought.</p><p>That's about the time some folks started receiving the code instead of straight ascii.</p><p>Here is the "Info" from the Pegasus Help/About window: </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  WinPMail version: V4.12a (Win32), Jun 19 2003 Language resources: Standard UK English resource set Extension Manager version: 1.12 Operating mode: Standalone User name and ID: dennis, 0 Windows version: 5.1 Windows flag word: 0 WINPMAIL.EXE directory: C:\PMAIL Home mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\dennis New mailbox location: C:\PMAIL\MAIL\dennis TMP environment variable: C:\DOCUME~1\Dennis\LOCALS~1\Temp TEMP environment variable: C:\DOCUME~1\Dennis\LOCALS~1\Temp LAN-based SMTP support: N, N, N NetWare MHS support: N, N, N Built-in TCP/IP support: Enabled   - WINSOCK version: WinSock 2.0   - WINSOCK path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.DLL Commandline: -A -E server.txt -Z 17152 Active -Z options: 49920 PMR variable: (None) PML variable: (None) MAI variable: (None) NB variable: (None) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Email client(s) at the other end vary. Outlook is fairly common however I forwarded an email to the wife, again over the LAN and it displayed on her machine, also running Pegasus, as this pesky code. All I did was open, read and forward the message. Didn't do any editing while I had it displayed. The Raw view of that message read on her computer didn't indicate any telltale initiation of HTML but did show it as code again.</p><p>What I mean about Pmail not being able to do "such a thing" is that I find no option among all the setup options that imply that Peg would or could translate an email into HTML prior to sending. Unless I'm missing something somewhere. I send stuff to myself and it arrives fine. Normal character text.</p><p>It's driving me mad!</p><p>  </p>

Do you have more than one version installed? That WinPMail version: V4.12a (Win32), Jun 19 2003 is old and many versions ago. Your system information shows you are using a modern computer, probably XP, and you really should update to at least winpm-32 4.51 for use with that machine.

I don't have a version that old here to experiment with or check settings. Your basic setup looks good and I would install 4.51 as an update to same c:\pmail location and then retest again. Current 4.51 does have ability to send plain text, html or as multipart alternative messages depending on user settings.

<p>Do you have more than one version installed? That WinPMail version: V4.12a (Win32), Jun 19 2003 is old and many versions ago. Your system information shows you are using a modern computer, probably XP, and you really should update to at least winpm-32 4.51 for use with that machine.</p><p>I don't have a version that old here to experiment with or check settings. Your basic setup looks good and I would install 4.51 as an update to same c:\pmail location and then retest again. Current 4.51 does have ability to send plain text, html or as multipart alternative messages depending on user settings. </p>

[quote user="denniss"]That's about the time some folks started receiving the code instead of straight ascii.[/quote]

So you say they see the raw HTML code (including the tags), not just the rendered (formatted) version? Can we get to see a sample message (raw data including headers, the text may be truncated)? The most reliable way of retrieving the raw data is by opening the CNM-file containing the message data in (e.g. your wife's) new mail directory (see Help => About Pegasus Mail => Info for its path, the filename is shown on the Messsage properties screen accessible via right click on a message in its folder). I would expect something to mangle the headers, most probably an AV scanner ...

<p>[quote user="denniss"]That's about the time some folks started receiving the code instead of straight ascii.[/quote]</p><p>So you say they see the raw HTML code (including the tags), not just the rendered (formatted) version? Can we get to see a sample message (raw data including headers, the text may be truncated)? The most reliable way of retrieving the raw data is by opening the CNM-file containing the message data in (e.g. your wife's) new mail directory (see <em>Help => About Pegasus Mail => Info</em> for its path, the filename is shown on the <em>Messsage properties</em> screen accessible via right click on a message in its folder). I would expect something to mangle the headers, most probably an AV scanner ...</p>
			Michael
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Michael;

I tried pasting a sample of what was received by one of the recipients but the forum software automagically turned it into rendered text rather than the raw code.Yes, they see the raw HTML code, not the rendered version.

Would you mind if I sent you a copy via email?

Jerry, I'm pretty sure there's only the one copy of Pegasus installed on my computer but I'll check it out. Please understand, I'm an AutoCAD junkie and the fact that this email stuff works at all simply amazes me. Is an install of an upgrade transparent and painless for a retired computer wannabe? (grin) 

<p> Michael;</p><p>I tried pasting a sample of what was received by one of the recipients but the forum software automagically turned it into rendered text rather than the raw code.Yes, they see the raw HTML code, not the rendered version. </p><p>Would you mind if I sent you a copy via email?</p><p>Jerry, I'm pretty sure there's only the one copy of Pegasus installed on my computer but I'll check it out. Please understand, I'm an AutoCAD junkie and the fact that this email stuff works at all simply amazes me. Is an install of an upgrade transparent and painless for a retired computer wannabe? (grin)  </p>

I see some uncommon settings shown "Commandline: -A -E server.txt -Z 17152
Active -Z options: 49920" you have in use.

 

I wonder if somehow the setting to use MIME features has gotten turned off. That will indeed cause some receivers to see "bare" code instead of html in messages or .rtf code possibly in older versions. Checl Tools, Options section or I think File, Network Configuration in older versions.

<p>I see some uncommon settings shown "Commandline: -A -E server.txt -Z 17152 Active -Z options: 49920" you have in use.</p><p> </p><p>I wonder if somehow the setting to use MIME features has gotten turned off. That will indeed cause some receivers to see "bare" code instead of html in messages or .rtf code possibly in older versions. Checl Tools, Options section or I think File, Network Configuration in older versions. </p>

Greetings Jerry;

Those command line switches are what enable Pmail to act as a mail server for our simple setup.

 Thanks

 

<p>Greetings Jerry;</p><p>Those command line switches are what enable Pmail to act as a mail server for our simple setup. </p><p> Thanks</p><p> </p>

[quote user="denniss"]I tried pasting a sample of what was received by one of the recipients but the forum software automagically turned it into rendered text rather than the raw code.Yes, they see the raw HTML code, not the rendered version. [/quote]

You can omit the HTML code, just insert some indication of where it was, the part of interest here are mainly the headers.

<p>[quote user="denniss"]I tried pasting a sample of what was received by one of the recipients but the forum software automagically turned it into rendered text rather than the raw code.Yes, they see the raw HTML code, not the rendered version. [/quote]</p><p>You can omit the HTML code, just insert some indication of where it was, the part of interest here are mainly the headers.</p>
			Michael
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IERenderer's Homepage
PGP Key ID (RSA 2048): 0xC45D831B
S/MIME Fingerprint: 94C6B471 0C623088 A5B27701 742B8666 3B7E657C

[quote user="Jerry Wise"]I wonder if somehow the setting to use MIME features has gotten turned off. That will indeed cause some receivers to see "bare" code instead of html in messages or .rtf code possibly in older versions.[/quote]

Jerry could be right here, the option is on Tools => Options => Messages and replies.

<p>[quote user="Jerry Wise"]I wonder if somehow the setting to use MIME features has gotten turned off. That will indeed cause some receivers to see "bare" code instead of html in messages or .rtf code possibly in older versions.[/quote]</p><p>Jerry could be right here, the option is on <em>Tools => Options => Messages and replies</em>.</p>
			Michael
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IERenderer's Homepage
PGP Key ID (RSA 2048): 0xC45D831B
S/MIME Fingerprint: 94C6B471 0C623088 A5B27701 742B8666 3B7E657C

Indeed, "Use MIME Features" was turned off. We'll see what happens with it turned on.

You folks are the greatest! Thanks.

 

<p>Indeed, "Use MIME Features" was turned off. We'll see what happens with it turned on.</p><p>You folks are the greatest! Thanks.</p><p> </p>
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