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Pegasus Installation Assumptions

[quote user="Stardance"]Okay then, what are the "number of assumptions" that Pegasus makes about

where its data can be found? < that punctuation is a question mark ....

If you responded to my comment about Windows instead of answering the question because you don't know the answer, then please don't bother to read further.[/quote]

Maybe it would be more helpful if you just asked what you want to achieve instead of starting debates about concepts? I'm sure there would be an easy solution for most of your practical issues (as opposed to theoretical ones) with Pegasus Mail if we only knew about them.

[quote user=&quot;Stardance&quot;]&lt;b&gt;Okay then, what are the &quot;number of assumptions&quot; that Pegasus makes about where its data can be found?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; &amp;lt; that punctuation is a question mark&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt; ....&lt;/b&gt; &lt;p&gt;If you responded to my &lt;i&gt;comment about Windows&lt;/i&gt; instead of &lt;i&gt;answering the question&lt;/i&gt; because you don&#039;t know the answer, then please don&#039;t bother to read further.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe it would be more helpful if you just asked what you want to achieve instead of starting debates about concepts? I&#039;m sure there would be an easy solution for most of your practical issues (as opposed to theoretical ones) with Pegasus Mail if we only knew about them.&lt;/p&gt;
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On page 12 of the WinPmail Manual:  ".... By default, Pegasus Mail does not suggest installing itself into the standard Windows Program Files directory structure, because Microsoft are quite specific that programs and data should not be mixed, and Pegasus Mail’s multi-user operating modes make a number of assumptions about where data can be found."

Okay then, what are the "number of assumptions" that Pegasus makes about where its data can be found?  (I don't mean how many assumptions, I mean what is each one.)

My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its "security policies" create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.  

Thanks in advance for your help. :-)


&lt;p&gt;On page 12 of the WinPmail Manual:&amp;nbsp; &quot;.... &lt;i&gt;By default, Pegasus Mail does not suggest installing itself into the standard Windows Program Files directory structure, because Microsoft are quite specific that programs and data should not be mixed, and Pegasus Mail&rsquo;s multi-user operating modes make a number of assumptions about where data can be found.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay then, what are the &quot;number of assumptions&quot; that Pegasus makes about where its data can be found?&amp;nbsp; (I don&#039;t mean how many assumptions, I mean what is each one.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its &quot;security policies&quot; create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance for your help. :-) &lt;/p&gt;

[quote user="Stardance"]My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its "security policies" create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.[/quote]

Here's what you need to know.

&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;Stardance&quot;]My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its &quot;security policies&quot; create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/post/23108.aspx&quot; mce_href=&quot;/forums/post/23108.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; what you need to know.&lt;/p&gt;
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[quote user="idw"]

[quote user="Stardance"]My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its "security policies" create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.[/quote]

Here's what you need to know.

[/quote]

The link to which you refer me contains information about what

Windows 7 (?) does with files, which is something that I suppose

everyone needs to know.

My question, though, was not the sentence that you quoted, but the first one (which follows my citation of the documentation):

Okay then, what are the "number of assumptions" that Pegasus makes about

where its data can be found? < that punctuation is a question mark ....

If you responded to my comment about Windows instead of answering the question because you don't know the answer, then please don't bother to read further.

 

At

least one "assumption" that Pegasus makes is a "default" location for the mailbox files.  On the face of it, the location of the mailbox files can be changed on the Tools > Options > General Settings > Mailbox

Location panel.  The first section is labeled "Directory where home mailbox is

located." followed by a field labeled Path:. 

The field contains the string "<DEFAULT>" and a

button to the right of the field is labeled "Use Default".  As far as I

can determine, that field will always initially contain the string

"<DEFAULT>" regardless of the current location of the "home

mailbox".  That is not informative.  It is even a bit confusing.

The content of the field should be the path of the directory where the "home mailbox"

is currently located.  Then I

don't have to look for it by using some

other "feature" (if there is one) which might tell me the current location, regardless of

whether the current location is also the default location.

Beneath that field is another button with

the phrase "Move mailbox content to new location".  Apparently the user

should enable this button if they have entered a path into the field

above it as the "new location" of the "home mailbox" even if the path they enter is, or is supposed to be or could be, already the current location.

Below the entire

"Directory where home mailbox is located" section (which is within a box

drawn by a faint white line), there is another button labeled "Change

Now".

Below that section, occupying most of the panel, are three

comments.  The "note" leaves one wondering why the Change Now button is below the section instead of at the bottom with the other buttons.  If "Apply" doesn't seem explicit enough, then that button could be re-labeled "Change Now" and do whatever using that button is supposed to effect.  The button could even be the first one in the row instead of the last.

The second comment may be correct (I haven't tried it).  However, the third one is either wrong or WinPmail has a bug.  When I use the "Change Now" button, WinPmail does not "shut down" and "restart", as far as I can determine.  WinPmail does close the dialog and change the display to the primary page, so the user must use the Tools > Options tree again if they want to exercise another option (or just to see what they are).  There is no confirmation dialog at all, such as one which tells the user the location of the "home mailbox" files as a result of the change, with an "OK" button for the user to acknowledge that they have at least seen the confirmation even if they didn't read it.  So, if I have not checked "Move mailbox contents", then it doesn't seem likely that WinPmail begins using the new location immediately, if it starts using it at all.

In sum, short and fine: it is

impossible to determine whether any change to the "home mailbox" storage location has occurred regardless of the actions of the user, at least with regard to using this "option" to specify that location.  There may be some other way to determine what the current location of the "home mailbox" is, but if I have to use some other way then WinPmail is clearly user-hostile in this respect.


&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;idw&quot;]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;Stardance&quot;]My computer is running Windows 7 Pro and Microsoft and its &quot;security policies&quot; create a labyrinth of files which appear to be isolated and what appear to be myriad copies that may or may not exist.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/post/23108.aspx&quot; mce_href=&quot;/forums/post/23108.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; what you need to know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The link to which you refer me contains information about what Windows 7 (?) does with files, which is something that I suppose everyone needs to know.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;My question, though, was not the sentence that you quoted, but the first one (which follows my citation of the documentation):&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Okay then, what are the &quot;number of assumptions&quot; that Pegasus makes about where its data can be found?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; &amp;lt; that punctuation is a question mark&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt; ....&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;If you responded to my &lt;i&gt;comment about Windows&lt;/i&gt; instead of &lt;i&gt;answering the question&lt;/i&gt; because you don&#039;t know the answer, then please don&#039;t bother to read further. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;At least one &quot;assumption&quot; that Pegasus makes is a &quot;default&quot; location for the mailbox files.&amp;nbsp; On the face of it, the location of the mailbox files can be changed on the Tools &amp;gt; Options &amp;gt; General Settings &amp;gt; Mailbox Location panel.&amp;nbsp; The first section is labeled &quot;Directory where home mailbox is located.&quot; followed by a field labeled Path:.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;The field contains the string &quot;&amp;lt;DEFAULT&amp;gt;&quot; and a button to the right of the field is labeled &quot;Use Default&quot;.&amp;nbsp; As far as I can determine, that field will always initially contain the string &quot;&amp;lt;DEFAULT&amp;gt;&quot; regardless of the current location of the &quot;home mailbox&quot;.&amp;nbsp; That is not informative.&amp;nbsp; It is even a bit confusing. &lt;p&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;The content of the field should be the path of the directory where the &quot;home mailbox&quot; is currently located.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Then I don&#039;t have to look for it by using some other &quot;feature&quot; (if there is one) which might tell me the current location, regardless of whether the current location is also the default location.&lt;/p&gt;Beneath that field is another button with the phrase &quot;Move mailbox content to new location&quot;.&amp;nbsp; Apparently the user should enable this button if they have entered a path into the field above it as the &quot;new location&quot; of the &quot;home mailbox&quot; even if the path they enter is, or is supposed to be or could be, already the current location. &lt;p&gt;Below the entire &quot;Directory where home mailbox is located&quot; section (which is within a box drawn by a faint white line), there is another button labeled &quot;Change Now&quot;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Below that section, occupying most of the panel, are three comments.&amp;nbsp; The &quot;note&quot; leaves one wondering why the Change Now button is below the section instead of at the bottom with the other buttons.&amp;nbsp; If &quot;Apply&quot; doesn&#039;t seem explicit enough, then that button could be re-labeled &quot;Change Now&quot; and do whatever using that button is supposed to effect.&amp;nbsp; The button could even be the first one in the row instead of the last. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The second comment may be correct (I haven&#039;t tried it).&amp;nbsp; However, the third one is either wrong or WinPmail has a bug.&amp;nbsp; When I use the &quot;Change Now&quot; button, WinPmail does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; &quot;shut down&quot; and &quot;restart&quot;, as far as I can determine.&amp;nbsp; WinPmail does close the dialog and change the display to the primary page, so the user must use the Tools &amp;gt; Options tree again if they want to exercise another option (or just to see what they are).&amp;nbsp; There is no confirmation dialog at all, such as one which tells the user the location of the &quot;home mailbox&quot; files as a result of the change, with an &quot;OK&quot; button for the user to acknowledge that they have at least seen the confirmation even if they didn&#039;t read it.&amp;nbsp; So, if I have &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; checked &quot;Move mailbox contents&quot;, then it doesn&#039;t seem likely that WinPmail begins using the new location immediately, if it starts using it at all. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In sum, short and fine: it is impossible to determine whether any change to the &quot;home mailbox&quot; storage location has occurred regardless of the actions of the user, at least with regard to using this &quot;option&quot; to specify that location.&amp;nbsp; There may be some other way to determine what the current location of the &quot;home mailbox&quot; is, but if I have to use some other way then WinPmail is clearly user-hostile in this respect. &lt;/p&gt;
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