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[quote user="David H. Lipman"]CNM files ?  The t-online.de  Domain address ?[/quote]

CNM files are the files in your new mail directory (see Help => About Pegasus Mail => Info for paths) containing single downloaded new messages. And yes, the ...t-online.de address.

<p>[quote user="David H. Lipman"]CNM files ?  The <b>t-online.de</b>  Domain address ?[/quote]</p><p>CNM files are the files in your new mail directory (see <em>Help => About Pegasus Mail => Info</em> for paths) containing single downloaded new messages. And yes, the ...t-online.de address.</p>
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How do I best filter any/all email with subjects like...

Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IHRxade/LtS9LsjLLsGmLtfKLtS0LrncLsDtLsjL?=

Subject: =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

 

Just detecting "gb2312" in the subject or headers doesn't work.  It is like the characterset is interpreted and then the filters and regular expressions work on the interpreted string.

 

I don't want to receive even something like...

 

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&lt;p&gt;How do I best filter any/all email with subjects like...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IHRxade/LtS9LsjLLsGmLtfKLtS0LrncLsDtLsjL?=&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subject: =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just detecting &quot;gb2312&quot; in the subject or headers doesn&#039;t work.&amp;nbsp; It is like the characterset is interpreted and then the filters and regular expressions work on the interpreted string. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t want to receive even something like...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Return-path: &amp;lt;REPLY-AGENT@anti-spam.cn&amp;gt; Received: from mxs1.hichina.com ([unknown] [121.196.2.158]) &amp;nbsp;by vms169119.mailsrvcs.net &amp;nbsp;(Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) &amp;nbsp;with ESMTP id &amp;lt;0LTB008I29HYUYM0@vms169119.mailsrvcs.net&amp;gt; for &amp;nbsp;dlipman@verizon.net; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:34:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:34:41 +0800 From: abuse@anti-spam.cn Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IG1yZzMguN8gvKgg0Kcgz/ogytsgzcUgttMgvsM=?= X-Originating-IP: [121.196.2.158] To: dlipman@verizon.net Message-id: &amp;lt;20111019193441.16010.quarkmail@mxs1.hichina.com&amp;gt; MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Original-recipient: rfc822;dlipman@verizon.net X-PMFLAGS: 34099264 0 1 P3Y7RE23.CNM&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 5bCK5pWs55qE55So5oi3OuaCqOaJgOS4vuaKpeeahOWeg+WcvumCruS7tuaI keS7rOW3suaUtuWIsCzmhJ/osKLmgqjlr7nmiJHku6zlt6XkvZznmoTmlK/m jIEhDQror7fkuIvmrKHlsIbmgqjmlLbliLDnmoTlnoPlnL7pgq7ku7bku6Xp mYTku7bnmoTlvaLlvI/lj5HpgIHliLDmiJHku6znmoTmlrDpgq7nrrFhYnVz ZUAxMjMyMS5jbuOAgg0K5Y6f6YKu566xYWJ1c2VAYW50aS1zcGFtLmNu5bCG 5ZyoMjAxMOW5tOW6leWBnOeUqOOAguaEn+iwouaCqOeahOmFjeWQiO+8gQ== &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

 If expression headers matches "subject*gb2312*" LeaveOnServer ""

I tried the above as a POP3 rule and PMail does LeaveOnServer.

 Here is shown Gmail display:

Here is shown Pmail "Selective mail download" dialog:

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;If expression headers matches &quot;subject*gb2312*&quot; LeaveOnServer &quot;&quot;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I tried the above as a POP3 rule and PMail does LeaveOnServer.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Here is shown Gmail display:&lt;IMG align=middle src=&quot;http://oi56.tinypic.com/2rgfh2v.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://oi56.tinypic.com/2rgfh2v.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Here is shown Pmail &quot;Selective mail download&quot; dialog:&lt;IMG style=&quot;WIDTH: 702px; HEIGHT: 129px&quot; align=absBottom src=&quot;http://oi51.tinypic.com/2uj1k0h.jpg&quot; width=702 height=129 mce_src=&quot;http://oi51.tinypic.com/2uj1k0h.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

Guy,

 

Thanx for for you persistent assistance here and on Usenet.  I appreciate it !

I feel like an idiot because I MUST be screwing it up 'cause it still isn't working and I don't get why  [:'(]

 

 

&lt;p&gt;Guy,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanx for for you persistent assistance here and on Usenet.&amp;nbsp; I appreciate it ! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I feel like an idiot because I MUST be screwing it up &#039;cause it still isn&#039;t working and I don&#039;t get why&amp;nbsp; [:&#039;(] &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail1.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail2.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail2.jpg&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

If I send any email from any account with the following

Subject...

=?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

Rules fail both on the Verizon server spam filter an in P-Mail

 

When I drop the prepended "=" from the subject

?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

Rules work as

I intended them to.

Which again leads me to believe the string is being

interpreted first and then the rules are applied.



&lt;div&gt; &lt;div&gt;If I send any email from any account with the following Subject...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;=?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div&gt;Rules fail both on the Verizon server spam filter an in P-Mail&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;When I drop the prepended &quot;=&quot; from the subject&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;p&gt;?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;Rules work as I intended them to. Which again leads me to believe the string is being interpreted first and then the rules are applied.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;

> =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

 I do not know about you but I filter this China stuff on the MIME type string in the headers and not the Subject using an expression type filter. This should work just fine as a POP3 filter as well.  One advantage of these headers is that they are all 7 bit unencoded.

You can also use Content Control since this one is built in. 

 

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;gt; =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I do not know about you but I filter this China stuff on the MIME type string in the headers and not the Subject using an expression type filter. This should work just fine as a POP3 filter as well.&amp;nbsp; One advantage of these headers is that they are all 7 bit unencoded. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can also use Content Control since this one is built in.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

Two suggestions: 

Try a test of the server to see if it accepts the 'optional' POP3 TOP command.

When you know there is at least one message at your POP3 account, telnet to the server and issue a TOP command.

At a command prompt type:

  TELNET incoming.verizon.net 110

  USER userid [e.g. dlipman@verizon.net or dlipman]

  PASS password [your password]

  TOP 1 0

The server should display the headers of message number one in your mailbox.

 

Create another entry in your POP3 rule set like:

 If expression headers matches "subject*barfoo123*" LeaveOnServer ""

Send a test message to your Verizon account with that Subject (barfoo123) and see if the message is retrieved or left on the server as the rule intends.

 

&lt;P&gt;Two suggestions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Try a test of the server to see if it accepts the &#039;optional&#039; POP3 TOP command.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;When you know there is at least one message&amp;nbsp;at your POP3 account, telnet to the server and issue a TOP command.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;At a command prompt type:&lt;/P&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; TELNET&amp;nbsp;incoming.verizon.net 110&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;USER userid [e.g. dlipman@verizon.net or dlipman]&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;PASS password [your password]&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; TOP 1 0&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;The server should display the headers of message number one in your mailbox.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P mce_keep=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Create another entry in your POP3 rule set like:&lt;/P&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;If expression headers matches &quot;subject*barfoo123*&quot; LeaveOnServer &quot;&quot; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;Send a test message to your Verizon account with that Subject (barfoo123) and see if the message is retrieved or left on the server as the rule intends.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P mce_keep=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

> =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

 I do not know about you but I filter this China stuff on the MIME type string in the headers and not the Subject using an expression type filter. This should work just fine as a POP3 filter as well.  One advantage of these headers is that they are all 7 bit unencoded.

You can also use Content Control since this one is built in. 

 [/quote]

 

I have no problem filtering on;  charset=gb2312

But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header example in the initial post.

[quote user=&quot;Thomas R. Stephenson&quot;]&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;gt; =?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I do not know about you but I filter this China stuff on the MIME type string in the headers and not the Subject using an expression type filter. This should work just fine as a POP3 filter as well.&amp;nbsp; One advantage of these headers is that they are all 7 bit unencoded. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can also use Content Control since this one is built in.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have no problem filtering on; &amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;charset=gb2312&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header example in the initial post. &lt;/p&gt;

For the Telnet session.

Even though I have a message in the InBox (as seen by webmail)

TOP 1 0

-ERR No such message

 

As for testing the POP3  Rule Set.  It works.  It has always worked.  It doesn't work on the Chinese charset GB3212

As noted...

If I send email from an alternate account with the following Subject...

=?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

 

The POP3 Rules Set [ Subject*gb2312* and other variations ] fail.

 

When I drop the prepended "=" from the subject

?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=

 

Rules work as I intended them to.
 
That's why I conclude the string is interpreted first and then the rules are subsequently applied.
 

 

&lt;p&gt;For the Telnet session.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Even though I have a message in the InBox (as seen by webmail) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; TOP 1 0 &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-ERR No such message &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for testing the POP3&amp;nbsp; Rule Set.&amp;nbsp; It works.&amp;nbsp; It has always worked.&amp;nbsp; It doesn&#039;t work on the Chinese charset GB3212&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As noted...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;If I send email from an alternate account with the following Subject...&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;=?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;The POP3 Rules Set [ Subject*gb2312* and other variations ] fail. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;When I drop the prepended &quot;=&quot; from the subject&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;?gb2312?B?dHFp178u1L0uyMsuwaYu18ou1LQuudwuwO0uyMs=?=&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Rules work as I intended them to.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;That&#039;s why I conclude the string is interpreted first and then the rules are subsequently applied.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

I don't know. I have three test messages "stuck" (LeaveOnServer) at Gmail.

LeaveOnServer rule messages

&lt;P&gt;I don&#039;t know. I have three test messages &quot;stuck&quot; (LeaveOnServer)&amp;nbsp;at Gmail.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG style=&quot;WIDTH: 705px; HEIGHT: 329px&quot; title=&quot;LeaveOnServer rule messages&quot; alt=&quot;LeaveOnServer rule messages&quot; src=&quot;http://oi52.tinypic.com/2ue1b86.jpg&quot; width=705 height=329 mce_src=&quot;http://oi52.tinypic.com/2ue1b86.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

Then there must be a configuration setting that tells P-Mail how to process strings that you have a different setting than I.  Admittedly I have looked for such a setting and can find none.  Maybe it is in a configuration file ?

You have seen the screen captures and I have tried all sorts of variations.  It is just is not working.

&lt;p&gt;Then there must be a configuration setting that tells P-Mail how to process strings that you have a different setting than I.&amp;nbsp; Admittedly I have looked for such a setting and can find none.&amp;nbsp; Maybe it is in a configuration file ? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You have seen the screen captures and I have tried all sorts of variations.&amp;nbsp; It is just is not working. &lt;/p&gt;

> I have no problem filtering on;  charset=gb2312
>
> But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header
> example in the initial post.

But since that does not work I'm not all that sure wanting to filter on the subject will be all that useful.  ;-)

&amp;gt; I have no problem filtering on;&amp;nbsp; charset=gb2312 &amp;gt; &amp;gt; But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header &amp;gt; example in the initial post. But since that does not work I&#039;m not all that sure wanting to filter on the subject will be all that useful.&amp;nbsp; ;-)

> For the Telnet session.
>
> Even though I have a message in the InBox (as seen by webmail)
>
> TOP 1 0
>
>-ERR No such message

All this means is that the server is not offering up the mail via POP3.  Happens a lot where the server is set to offer up only mail that has not been read.  Mercury can be set to do this as well.

&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; For the Telnet session. &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Even though I have a message in the InBox (as seen by webmail) &amp;gt; &amp;gt; TOP 1 0 &amp;gt; &amp;gt;-ERR No such message &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All this means is that the server is not offering up the mail via POP3.&amp;nbsp; Happens a lot where the server is set to offer up only mail that has not been read.&amp;nbsp; Mercury can be set to do this as well. &lt;/p&gt;

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]> I have no problem filtering on;  charset=gb2312
>
> But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header
> example in the initial post.

But since that does not work I'm not all that sure wanting to filter on the subject will be all that useful.  ;-)[/quote]

 

Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.

This is what I need and I am not willing to give up yet.

&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;Thomas R. Stephenson&quot;]&amp;gt; I have no problem filtering on;&amp;nbsp; charset=gb2312 &amp;gt; &amp;gt; But I want to filter on the Subject as shown in the Full Header &amp;gt; example in the initial post. But since that does not work I&#039;m not all that sure wanting to filter on the subject will be all that useful.&amp;nbsp; ;-)[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is what I need and I am not willing to give up yet. &lt;/p&gt;

[quote user="David H. Lipman"]Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.[/quote]

Here's David Harris' comment on this:

Simple header matching always unravels RFC2047 encoded-words
before doing the comparison, while expression tests *never* do that.

In other words, if you use the "headers" button in the rule editor to
create your rule, then any encoded-words will be unravelled before

comparison, but if you use the "expression" button, they won't be.


&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;David H. Lipman&quot;]Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s David Harris&#039; comment on this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Simple header matching always unravels RFC2047 encoded-words before doing the comparison, while expression tests *never* do that. In other words, if you use the &quot;headers&quot; button in the rule editor to create your rule, then any encoded-words will be unravelled before &lt;p&gt;comparison, but if you use the &quot;expression&quot; button, they won&#039;t be. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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[quote user="idw"]

[quote user="David H. Lipman"]Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.[/quote]

Here's David Harris' comment on this:

 

Simple header matching always unravels RFC2047 encoded-words
before doing the comparison, while expression tests *never* do that.

In other words, if you use the "headers" button in the rule editor to
create your rule, then any encoded-words will be unravelled before

comparison, but if you use the "expression" button, they won't be.[/quote]

 

This fails too...

 

 

[quote user=&quot;idw&quot;]&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;David H. Lipman&quot;]Since I have two people indicating it works for them there may be a configuration setting that needs to be set/changed in my setup.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s David Harris&#039; comment on this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Simple header matching always unravels RFC2047 encoded-words before doing the comparison, while expression tests *never* do that. In other words, if you use the &quot;headers&quot; button in the rule editor to create your rule, then any encoded-words will be unravelled before &lt;p&gt;comparison, but if you use the &quot;expression&quot; button, they won&#039;t be.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This fails too...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail4.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail4.jpg&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

[quote user="David H. Lipman"]Anything new ?[/quote]

What do you expect? Unless this can be duplicated by us I don't see what we can do about it? I'm afraid only you can figure out what's so special with your Pegasus Mail that it doesn't work properly. Maybe you can install a clean second copy for testing to see whether it exhibits the same issue?

&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;David H. Lipman&quot;]Anything new ?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you expect? Unless this can be duplicated by us I don&#039;t see what we can do about it? I&#039;m afraid only you can figure out what&#039;s so special with your Pegasus Mail that it doesn&#039;t work properly. Maybe you can install a clean second copy for testing to see whether it exhibits the same issue?&lt;/p&gt;
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[quote user="idw"]

[quote user="David H. Lipman"]Anything new ?[/quote]

What do you expect? Unless this can be duplicated by us I don't see what we can do about it? I'm afraid only you can figure out what's so special with your Pegasus Mail that it doesn't work properly. Maybe you can install a clean second copy for testing to see whether it exhibits the same issue?

[/quote]

 I don't expect anything.  I hope for clues.

 Actually, you helped me again as I will try this on my Vista notebook.

Danke Michael.

[quote user=&quot;idw&quot;]&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;David H. Lipman&quot;]Anything new ?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you expect? Unless this can be duplicated by us I don&#039;t see what we can do about it? I&#039;m afraid only you can figure out what&#039;s so special with your Pegasus Mail that it doesn&#039;t work properly. Maybe you can install a clean second copy for testing to see whether it exhibits the same issue?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I don&#039;t expect anything.&amp;nbsp; I hope for clues.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Actually, you helped me again as I will try this on my Vista notebook.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danke Michael. &lt;/p&gt;

On my Vista notebook I installed v4.62 from scratch and setup POP3 account, Pop3 Mail Filter, Download Controls for pop3 rule4s, etc from scratch and used this rule...

 

 

 

I went to an alternate email account a created an email with the subject being one of the subject lines I posted in the inital post of this thread.

Email still was downloaded to InBox.  The ONLY difference is the subject line was decoded.  On my main computer (which has been upgraded from version, to version, to the v4.62) they are substituted characters.

 

&lt;p&gt;On my Vista notebook I installed v4.62 from scratch and setup POP3 account, Pop3 Mail Filter, Download Controls for pop3 rule4s, etc from scratch and used this rule...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail4.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail4.jpg&quot; height=&quot;339&quot; width=&quot;337&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I went to an alternate email account a created an email with the subject being one of the subject lines I posted in the inital post of this thread. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Email still was downloaded to InBox.&amp;nbsp; The &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ONLY&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; difference is the subject line was decoded.&amp;nbsp; On my main computer (which has been upgraded from version, to version, to the v4.62) they are substituted characters. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail5.jpg&quot; mce_src=&quot;http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/PMail5.jpg&quot; height=&quot;375&quot; width=&quot;696&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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