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[quote user="msnyc10"]

 After my experience this morning I can safely say I will never use nor recommend this program again. 

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Aw bummer, then you will probably not be interested in hearing about pop3 filter rules and their use in combination with distribution lists.

Cheers!

[quote user="msnyc10"]<p> After my experience this morning I can safely say I will never use nor recommend this program again. </p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Aw bummer, then you will probably not be interested in hearing about pop3 filter rules and their use in combination with distribution lists.</p><p>Cheers! </p>

I have created a # of folders/rules to store my contact email. Unfortuneatly I still get 1000s of junk emails each day and thus each time I start/use the app it has to try to load all of them.  I was able to create much better rules in Outlook to filter these out, in any event I'd like a way to not make New my main box so that I'm not stuck waiting for it to load each and every time.

 

In a related question I'd love some way to automatically make many of these addresses spam to be deleteed, i tried the SpamHalter classification but it has done little to nothing.

 And finally, I set a rule to give me a dialog and move email for specific email addresses. Frustratinly, it keeps running the dialog even though the email was moved. Thus on start-up not only do I have to wait forever for the Inbox, which I don't use, to load 12000 emails, I have to sit through dozens of alerts for emails it already moved.

One of us is doing something wrong, I am still open to the fact it might be me... 

<p>I have created a # of folders/rules to store my contact email. Unfortuneatly I still get 1000s of junk emails each day and thus each time I start/use the app it has to try to load all of them.  I was able to create much better rules in Outlook to filter these out, in any event I'd like a way to not make New my main box so that I'm not stuck waiting for it to load each and every time.</p><p> </p><p>In a related question I'd love some way to automatically make many of these addresses spam to be deleteed, i tried the SpamHalter classification but it has done little to nothing.</p><p> And finally, I set a rule to give me a dialog and move email for specific email addresses. Frustratinly, it keeps running the dialog even though the email was moved. Thus on start-up not only do I have to wait forever for the Inbox, which I don't use, to load 12000 emails, I have to sit through dozens of alerts for emails it already moved.</p><p>One of us is doing something wrong, I am still open to the fact it might be me... </p>

[quote user="msnyc10"]I have created a # of folders/rules to store my contact email. Unfortuneatly I still get 1000s of junk emails each day and thus each time I start/use the app it has to try to load all of them.  I was able to create much better rules in Outlook to filter these out, in any event I'd like a way to not make New my main box so that I'm not stuck waiting for it to load each and every time.[/quote]

Don't need that. But how's your Pegasus set up? IMAP or POP3 (local folders)? Which version of Pegasus?

Assumed POP3 ... create a directory i.e. "SAVE" under your mailbox-diretory. Move all files in your mailboxdirectory with extension "CNM" to that directory.

[quote]In a related question I'd love some way to automatically make many of these addresses spam to be deleteed, i tried the SpamHalter classification but it has done little to nothing.[/quote]

It works excellent for me. Depending on your configuration of SpamHalter you have to do some training manually. At the beginning of using SpamHalter I confugured him for self-training.

So ... start Pegasus now, configure SpamHalter (and define a Junk folder), disable Content-Control and your filtering rules and than begin moving mailfiles (CNM) back to mailboxdirectory. I've done that copying back packages of aubout 50 mailfiles. At the beginning there may be a lot of misses and you have to declare them manualy as SPAM and move them to junk folder. But SpamHalter will learn.

[quote]And finally, I set a rule to give me a dialog and move email for specific email addresses. Frustratinly, it keeps running the dialog even though the email was moved. Thus on start-up not only do I have to wait forever for the Inbox, which I don't use, to load 12000 emails, I have to sit through dozens of alerts for emails it already moved.[/quote]

SpamHalter works on the Inbox ... as content control and the filters for inbox does. They are working in this order ... your self defined filtering rules as last pass. A Inbox with thousands of mails especially when some sort of filtering is running (doesn't matter which type) has to been cleaned up! In the Inbox there should only reside new mails or mails at work. So ... you have to do the disturbing job once.

In content control you may define two distribution list for mailaddresses - usually white.pml and black.pml. You may create them (if they don't already exist) and use them for your filtering rules or activate content control. But I guess it's a never ending story. The SPAMMERs have new mailadresses every day so using a blacklist isn't realy funny. Use the "global positive list" (if so called in english Pegasus) in conjunction with SpamHalter ... that works good for me.

bye    Olaf

 

 

<p>[quote user="msnyc10"]I have created a # of folders/rules to store my contact email. Unfortuneatly I still get 1000s of junk emails each day and thus each time I start/use the app it has to try to load all of them.  I was able to create much better rules in Outlook to filter these out, in any event I'd like a way to not make New my main box so that I'm not stuck waiting for it to load each and every time.[/quote]</p><p>Don't need that. But how's your Pegasus set up? IMAP or POP3 (local folders)? Which version of Pegasus?</p><p>Assumed POP3 ... create a directory i.e. "SAVE" under your mailbox-diretory. Move all files in your mailboxdirectory with extension "CNM" to that directory. </p><p>[quote]In a related question I'd love some way to automatically make many of these addresses spam to be deleteed, i tried the SpamHalter classification but it has done little to nothing.[/quote]</p><p>It works excellent for me. Depending on your configuration of SpamHalter you have to do some training manually. At the beginning of using SpamHalter I confugured him for self-training.</p><p>So ... start Pegasus now, configure SpamHalter (and define a Junk folder), disable Content-Control and your filtering rules and than begin moving mailfiles (CNM) back to mailboxdirectory. I've done that copying back packages of aubout 50 mailfiles. At the beginning there may be a lot of misses and you have to declare them manualy as SPAM and move them to junk folder. But SpamHalter will learn. </p><p>[quote]And finally, I set a rule to give me a dialog and move email for specific email addresses. Frustratinly, it keeps running the dialog even though the email was moved. Thus on start-up not only do I have to wait forever for the Inbox, which I don't use, to load 12000 emails, I have to sit through dozens of alerts for emails it already moved.[/quote]</p><p>SpamHalter works on the Inbox ... as content control and the filters for inbox does. They are working in this order ... your self defined filtering rules as last pass. A Inbox with thousands of mails especially when some sort of filtering is running (doesn't matter which type) has to been cleaned up! In the Inbox there should only reside new mails or mails at work. So ... you have to do the disturbing job once.</p><p>In content control you may define two distribution list for mailaddresses - usually white.pml and black.pml. You may create them (if they don't already exist) and use them for your filtering rules or activate content control. But I guess it's a never ending story. The SPAMMERs have new mailadresses every day so using a blacklist isn't realy funny. Use the "global positive list" (if so called in english Pegasus) in conjunction with SpamHalter ... that works good for me. </p>bye    Olaf<p> </p><p> </p>

Thanks for the assistance, this is still way more work then I ever had to do with Outlook. It was very good at catching spam, I set up a mutli-word rule for the others (Viagra, Lottery, Urgent!, etc). But mostly the difference was I didn't have to wait for the Inbox to load every time because I never use the Inbox. I set up rules to put my established contacts into folders, then Inbox becomes a useless folder, unless I have a new contact in which case I'd generally set up an alert in advance.

 

I understand filters work on inbox but I I set up two alerts (would be nice to have it as one but c'est la vie); one with a dialog and one to move to the contact's folder. So why would the alert keep running *after* it has been moved, each day I deal with more and more alerts on start-up for mail that has been moved. 

 

So I am just looking for a way to ignore Inbox vs taking days/weeks to teach spamhalter, manually move .cnm files or any other such workaround (though the tips are much appreciated). I just don't want Pegasus to force me to the Inbox to start. This means I am either forced to start learning/tweaking spamhalter until my inbox gets small enough, manually move .cnm files, or just twiddle my thumbs on start-up. None of these options make any sense to me and clearly after using Outlook this does not have to be how it works.  I have just wasted 45 minutes restatring Pegaus over and over until it loads the inbox fast enough. Can I go to the folder and  move. cnms into Save? Sure. And then I nee to go throuhg that folder to see what I missed.  Not what you'd expect from a program that has 21 years to develop IMHO.

 To answer your first question I am using Pop3 from my own hosted domain and Pegasus V4.

 After my experience this morning I can safely say I will never use nor recommend this program again. 

<p>Thanks for the assistance, this is still way more work then I ever had to do with Outlook. It was very good at catching spam, I set up a mutli-word rule for the others (Viagra, Lottery, Urgent!, etc). But mostly the difference was I didn't have to wait for the Inbox to load every time because I never use the Inbox. I set up rules to put my established contacts into folders, then Inbox becomes a useless folder, unless I have a new contact in which case I'd generally set up an alert in advance.</p><p> </p><p>I understand filters work on inbox but I I set up two alerts (would be nice to have it as one but c'est la vie); one with a dialog and one to move to the contact's folder. So why would the alert keep running *after* it has been moved, each day I deal with more and more alerts on start-up for mail that has been moved. </p><p> </p><p>So I am just looking for a way to ignore Inbox vs taking days/weeks to teach spamhalter, manually move .cnm files or any other such workaround (though the tips are much appreciated). I just don't want Pegasus to force me to the Inbox to start. This means I am either forced to start learning/tweaking spamhalter until my inbox gets small enough, manually move .cnm files, or just twiddle my thumbs on start-up. None of these options make any sense to me and clearly after using Outlook this does not have to be how it works.  I have just wasted 45 minutes restatring Pegaus over and over until it loads the inbox fast enough. Can I go to the folder and  move. cnms into Save? Sure. And then I nee to go throuhg that folder to see what I missed.  Not what you'd expect from a program that has 21 years to develop IMHO.</p><p> To answer your first question I am using Pop3 from my own hosted domain and Pegasus V4.</p><p> After my experience this morning I can safely say I will never use nor recommend this program again. </p>
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