[quote user="Mike"]

[quote user="Rendres"]It would be great if the next line would also automatically be bulleted, and potentially the bulleted list only be deactivated when you hit enter a second time to insert a clear line. This handling, found in the word processing programmes ...[/quote]

<...>That is to say, most modern wp programs allow one to handle "formatting" as styles rather than as formatting. Accordingly, rather than changing the appearance in an ad hoc manner as one goes from a formatting bar one is able to highlight particular areas of the text, open a style palette, and apply a style with a semantically meaningful content to that text. IOW, modern wp documents are more like modern HTML documents and less like old-fashioned "tag soup" documents that mix content and appearance in an indiscriminate manner.

[/quote]

I would appreciate bulleted-list behaviour the way Rendres describes

it. After all what's the point in a bulleted list if there is only one

bullet item? Also, I agree with the notion of "styles". Interpreting

the toolbar button as "[start] list", rather than as "[start] item", and an empty item line as "end of list" would allow applying the structural style concept while maintaining easy handling.

BTW, I would hate the highlight->styles palette->apply style approach. IMHO that's far to awkward when writing text, which is what word processing and emails are about for me.

Cheers,

Erik 

My never-to-be-sufficiently-cursed ISP, Comcast, has implemented limits

on the number of outbound messages one can send in one session in a

misguided attempt to cut down on spam from infected machines.  The

limit is somewhere around 5 messages in a batch.  The 6th and

subsequent messages get 'bounced'.  I know I could set up Pegasus Mail

to send-at-once, but that wouldn't work when I'm sending a message to

more than 5 recipients.

It would be a Good Thing if we had "Upload Controls" to match the

"Download Controls" (DLC) on the POP3 tab in Internet Options.  In DLC

we can limit the number of messages downloaded in a session.  If only

we could limit the number sent in a session.

Thanks!

That would be a nice feature, but you could also think of an adress-

book stored as a XML file. Then it would be possible to exchange

the adressbook in an easy way.

Han,
Thanks and yes, I guess there is definitely some merit in a comparison with the snail mail handling of mail etc. in order to find procedural analogies and make it's usage more straightforward especially for new user. However, we probably both agree that while the good old hand written letter and the snail mail handling has some charm - still like to get them and have a chat with the lady at our tiny post office [:)]- many of its disadvantages were more related to the missing technology or time and effort needed to do something rather than by its necessity. Just think about the times of fiddling around with two carbon papers and three sheets of papers in your typewriter to get two copies ...[:D]
I would still opt for a copyself option.
Cheers
Thomas

Hi !

Well, today was a dark Sunday since I lost my tray structure entirely and had only a two month old backup of this critical file named "HIERARCH.PM" which has been corrupted and God only knows how. It seems this kind of corruption has stroke several users, so I was wondering if the next release could have some sort of self-backup procedure (with maybe the creation of a new Windows folder called "BACKUP") which will make a copy of the critical files such the one I mentioned. Since the capacity of our hard drives are becoming bigger every day, maybe this feature (if chosen to be coded of course) could be enriched with some frequency options like those :

(1) choose when Pegasus Mail should backup its critical files :

(a) after X openings of the program (where X can be chosen by the user)

(b) each time the program is ended

(c) while the program is opened, every Y minutes

etc.

(2) choose the location of the backups (default folder being "BACKUP")

Well, I guess you all get the picture. I am sure there is a lot of other potential "options" that can be added, and I strongly hope this feature or something close will be implemented in the next release.

Bye !

Ginhead 

Our company has been using Pegasus Mail since the 90's and overall, although we have had some problems which we have managed to overcome through the help of technical support or the mailing list, the experience has been pretty good. The opening of these forums was a great move.

I have been managing the company email since 2001, and I have one wish in particular that I would love to see implemented. When Pegasus Mail is performing a task which takes a long time, you have no idea what the status of that task is. I have learnt that just because Windows reports that Pegasus Mail is 'not responding', it does not mean that Pegasus has crashed. It can be frustrating when you are waiting for a process to complete and the Window refuses to refresh - often the previous window contents will be displayed.

So, would it be possible to get Pegasus to be able to report it's status when it is busy? Just knowing that the program has not crashed would be sufficient. It is far more preferable than sitting at my machine thinking - how much longer should I give this task before hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del? Subsequently, I have learnt that it is always a good idea to leave Pegasus for at least an hour before forcing a close down, but it would be nice to be able to close it down in the knowledge that it really has crashed, rather than be left wondering...

My machine: WinXP Pro SP2, 2GB RAM, Intel Core 2 CPU 1.8GHz, Nvidia Quadro NVS 285, 2x74GB SATA drives.

Absolutely....excellent suggestion....!

I run in to this nuisance very frequently when I use Pegasus with my miniature laptop, which has limited screen real-estate.

[quote user="tmstein"]

[quote user="Mike"]
... I suppose David might not want to put a full-blown HTML editor in there when perhaps very few people would use it. ..
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What I had in mind was just the option to edit the html in a normal text editor. It could look like the raw view flap section when you open an html email. Some syntax highlighting would of course be nice but not essential as I could write the code in my html editor e.g. Homesite or whatever. The current PM "WYSIWYG" editor could remain as it is and could just ignore code it does not know.[/quote]

I wouldn't know anything about actually implementing something like that, and I couldn't really comment. At least your feature request is listed on the forum now.

What I can do is suggest how you could currently do what you want to do. I suggest Thunderbird would be the tool to use. I'd guess that, generally, people deliberately composing HTML mail for newsletters and suchlike for businesses would be using specialist tools not end-user email clients. I just took a look at the headers for a few. Most I've been sent don't record the X-Mailer. One has X-Mailer: aspNetEmail ver 3.1.5.0 which doesn't sound like an ordinary general-purpose mail client. The only email client for home users that I know of that does allow you to insert raw tags is Thunderbird - and, as I say, I think that's because they inherited the Netscape Composer code, which was really written for another purpose.

What you could do is write your HTML page in your favourite editor and save it. Then open the page in a web browser and view source. If you then start a Thunderbird email and click Insert > HTML a little composing window labelled "Enter HTML tags and text" pops up. The raw HTML, excepting everything outside the body tags, goes in there and can be further edited there if desired. Here's a page explaining the functionality:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Edit_HTML_source

I'd send from there and pick up the results in Pegasus Mail, Thunderbird, and Outlook Express - and perhaps in Yahoo Mail, Gmail, and Hotmail webmail services, too. If the mail doesn't look as you'd wish in any of those, you could tweak the HTML code till it does.
 

[quote user="Han v.d. Bogaerde"]

This used to be the case in ancient versions of Pegasus Mail and has been changed on multiple users request. I guess we just can't please all.

han, oh yes, everybody could be pleased if there would be an option in the setup to have pegasus act as one likes. also I I think that warning me before I cancel a "complete" new email is a good idea, because I could loose something I have put some considerable work into. but my point is that I don't want to annoyed by such a warning message, if the subject and text-field is empty. what's the point to make me reconsider my decision in such a situation?

Thomas,

 
 You are correct in the assumption as to how I process the emails - read/delete then move either to another IMAP folder or local filestore. Do not use the preview mode. Understand the steps you have outlined and will make a few rules later tonight.

 
Thank you for the insight. Time to play. 

That is great, but I am not sure the use of keyboard shortcuts is statistically relevant.

See my announcement to the forum.

[quote user="tigershark"]

Thanks for your answer,

As you mentioned, only GPG 2.x supports S/MIME and I'm not able to get GPGrelay

running with a GPG version > 1.4.x.

It also look's like, that development has stopped on GPGrelay for almost three years now.

 greetings

> ..... In such an environment, "scope creep" can become very nasty, very quickly
> (i.e. once the calendar feature is in, it can never be removed, and will consume
> development and maintenance time from now to eternity).

From David's messages I understand that the calendar function is in or at least high on his agenda anyhow unless I have misreads his indications. And if funding doe not last ... well it's up to us to give that a go.
Cheers
Thomas
 

I suspect the Select button in New Mail folder is redundant with clicking on the grid columns, and could be relegated to the top menu bar.

The Find button is ok, but it would be more coherent with word processors to keep it in the top menu bar, and this way keep a cleaner New Mail buttons bar.

As far as the Info button is concerned, maybe the Properties button in the message window would be sufficient.

This way the New Mail bar would only have five buttons, which I find sleeker. 

Ah yes, you're right on this point. But the fact that I never noticed it before can be a sign that the icon is not conspicuous enough.

Must be checked with a representative panel of users I suppose. Maybe I was also misled by its location.

If I am  the only one having made this mistake, I apologize.

This version of CS can't have sub-forums, only groups and sub-groups. I'm rather contemplating merging the two forums within Pegasus Mail and the two within Mercury, since they are too much alike one another. The best way to browse different areas is to use the tag-cloud and tag the posts with a corresponding issue-group.

Thanks for your help. The subject of my suggestion was within the scope of the development of Pegasus Mail.

I saw that Filezilla has export/import of ftp logins in the form of an xml file. That is very convenient if you have unskilled users.

Or... if you have several computers too...

I have thought over this again, and I still think that network options should be part of Options in the menu.

Presently an "Internet options" separate from "Options" in the menu is a difficulty for the new user.