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 Hello!

I have a strange behaviour of pmail - it does not show accented or umlaut characters (like ö ä ü õ ) correctly. At least this happens under winNT 4.0 on several workstations but I haven't seen this on W98 setups and not on XP. I have seen similar complaints in reference to russion text and I can confirm that (I believe the source of the problem is the same) but I haven't seen a solution to that nor the explanation why this actually happens.

One picture  is worth a 100 words so here is picture how the message I myself write in editor looks like.

editor window 

 
Just to explain that it looks like the cursor will not advance after the _second_ umlaut. So the text gets mangled then there is at least two umlaut chars in sequence.

To show what was really written in this email there is a picture (again - sorry) that shows the raw text view of the message:

Raw text view 

Does anybody has a solution for this strange problem? 

Can anybody help me with that?

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rgds,

Paavo 

 

<p> Hello!</p><p>I have a strange behaviour of pmail - it does not show accented or umlaut characters (like ö ä ü õ ) correctly. At least this happens under winNT 4.0 on several workstations but I haven't seen this on W98 setups and not on XP. I have seen similar complaints in reference to russion text and I can confirm that (I believe the source of the problem is the same) but I haven't seen a solution to that nor the explanation why this actually happens. </p><p>One picture  is worth a 100 words so here is picture how the message I myself write in editor looks like. </p><p><img src="http://home.uninet.ee/%7Epaavo/Capture-1.jpg" title="editor window" alt="editor window" mce_src="http://home.uninet.ee/~paavo/Capture-1.jpg" height="494" width="554"> </p><p>  Just to explain that it looks like the cursor will not advance after the _second_ umlaut. So the text gets mangled then there is at least two umlaut chars in sequence.</p><p>To show what was really written in this email there is a picture (again - sorry) that shows the raw text view of the message:</p><p><img src="http://home.uninet.ee/%7Epaavo/Capture-2.jpg" title="Raw text view" alt="Raw text view" mce_src="http://home.uninet.ee/~paavo/Capture-2.jpg" height="494" width="554"> </p><p>Does anybody has a solution for this strange problem? </p><p>Can anybody help me with that? </p><p>--- </p><p>rgds,</p><p>Paavo </p><p> </p>

First thing, I would check my settings in menu Tools/Options/Basic Settings/Advanced Settings  Default Mime charset.  Make sure you have selected Windows 1252 for European, or Windows 1251 for Russian character support.

HTH

Martin 

<p>First thing, I would check my settings in menu Tools/Options/Basic Settings/Advanced Settings  Default Mime charset.  Make sure you have selected Windows 1252 for European, or Windows 1251 for Russian character support.</p><p>HTH</p><p>Martin </p>

[quote user="irelam"]

... Default Mime charset.  Make sure you have selected Windows 1252 for European, or Windows 1251 for Russian character support.

[/quote]

I have  ISO-8859-1 by default but changing that to UTF-8 or some windows charset does not and probably should not have any effect on the screen (just tried that to be sure). I forgot to mention that it's not only the editor problem, the received mail is garbled as well. It's not a bearhtml problem either as it affects the plaintext part of the messages.

I recall from the past the experiment with replecing ter32.dll module with the newer version from http://www.subsystems.com/ . Thought  this trick worked in principle it did not changed the behaviour of this very special problem.

 

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rgds,

Paavo Sild 

[quote user="irelam"]<p>... Default Mime charset.  Make sure you have selected Windows 1252 for European, or Windows 1251 for Russian character support.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>I have  ISO-8859-1 by default but changing that to UTF-8 or some windows charset does not and probably should not have any effect on the screen (just tried that to be sure). I forgot to mention that it's not only the editor problem, the received mail is garbled as well. It's not a bearhtml problem either as it affects the plaintext part of the messages. </p><p>I recall from the past the experiment with replecing ter32.dll module with the newer version from http://www.subsystems.com/ . Thought  this trick worked in principle it did not changed the behaviour of this very special problem. </p><p> </p><p>---</p><p>rgds,</p><p>Paavo Sild </p>

 

Hello!

 

To me, it seems that the operating system is important here. I have read some reports saying that the behaviour described here occurs on Windows NT, whereas it does not on later Windows versions.

I am not sure whether there is a fix possible for Windows NT. As far as I know, this has something to do with the internal structure and work flow of the Libiconv DLL, the character set conversion library used in Pegasus Mail. The main point is that the operating system has to have some native Unicode support, but it seems that Windows NT cannot offer the Unicode support needed for the latest versions of Pegasus Mail.


<p> </p><p> Hello!</p><p> </p><p>To me, it seems that the operating system is important here. I have read some reports saying that the behaviour described here occurs on Windows NT, whereas it does not on later Windows versions.</p><p>I am not sure whether there is a fix possible for Windows NT. As far as I know, this has something to do with the internal structure and work flow of the Libiconv DLL, the character set conversion library used in Pegasus Mail. The main point is that the operating system has to have some native Unicode support, but it seems that Windows NT cannot offer the Unicode support needed for the latest versions of Pegasus Mail.</p><p> </p>

[quote user="Thomas Nimmesgern"]

As far as I know, this has something to do with the internal structure and work flow of the Libiconv DLL, the character set conversion library used in Pegasus Mail. The main point is that the operating system has to have some native Unicode support, but it seems that Windows NT cannot offer the Unicode support needed for the latest versions of Pegasus Mail.

[/quote]

Thanks Thomas!

It's a good clue to follow. After some searching I found actually several apps in my computer that are relaying on the same iconv.dll - Wirechark, GNUPG. I haven't noticed any anomaly with mentioned apps but that does not rule out the iconv.dll issue. It seems that the latest version of this dll that is available for win is the v1.9 there is the source code has evolved to v1.11.

 

 

 

<p>[quote user="Thomas Nimmesgern"]</p><p>As far as I know, this has something to do with the internal structure and work flow of the Libiconv DLL, the character set conversion library used in Pegasus Mail. The main point is that the operating system has to have some native Unicode support, but it seems that Windows NT cannot offer the Unicode support needed for the latest versions of Pegasus Mail.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Thanks Thomas!</p><p>It's a good clue to follow. After some searching I found actually several apps in my computer that are relaying on the same iconv.dll - Wirechark, GNUPG. I haven't noticed any anomaly with mentioned apps but that does not rule out the iconv.dll issue. It seems that the latest version of this dll that is available for win is the v1.9 there is the source code has evolved to v1.11.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

paavo,

I am running pm on nt4 too and I experience the same strange behaviour.

my language-code settings is ISO-8859-1, I am using the german version of pegasus-mail.

if you find a solution to this problem please let me know!

also we can be sure that it is not a problem with NT4 because outlook-express on this system does not show this behaviour!

:)

paavo, I am running pm on nt4 too and I experience the same strange behaviour. my language-code settings is ISO-8859-1, I am using the german version of pegasus-mail. if you find a solution to this problem please let me know! also we can be sure that it is not a problem with NT4 because outlook-express on this system does not show this behaviour! :)
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