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Forwarded messages (bounced) also listed in COPYSELF

Han,
Thanks and yes, I guess there is definitely some merit in a comparison with the snail mail handling of mail etc. in order to find procedural analogies and make it's usage more straightforward especially for new user. However, we probably both agree that while the good old hand written letter and the snail mail handling has some charm - still like to get them and have a chat with the lady at our tiny post office [:)]- many of its disadvantages were more related to the missing technology or time and effort needed to do something rather than by its necessity. Just think about the times of fiddling around with two carbon papers and three sheets of papers in your typewriter to get two copies ...[:D]
I would still opt for a copyself option.
Cheers
Thomas

Han, Thanks and yes, I guess there is definitely some merit in a comparison with the snail mail handling of mail etc. in order to find procedural analogies and make it's usage more straightforward especially for new user. However, we probably both agree that while the good old hand written letter and the snail mail handling has some charm <i>- still like to get them and have a chat with the lady at our tiny post office [:)]-</i> many of its disadvantages were more related to the missing technology or time and effort needed to do something rather than by its necessity. Just think about the times of fiddling around with two carbon papers and three sheets of papers in your typewriter to get two copies ...[:D] I would still opt for a copyself option. Cheers Thomas

Dear PM Team,

Some time ago I realised that forwarded messages sent with the following options

  • "Fwd the message without editing" or
  • "Create a MIME container message"
do not show in the copyself folder (and there is no option to set the tick as well). Copyself is ON by default in my options settings. However, as it is also indicated under that header that the default settings are for "new messages" and "replies" and I am not sure whether this is actually a bug or wanted feature.

I feel that it is important to keep a track record of all messages sent even when they are basically only a fwd ("bounce"). I know that as a work around e.g. such as a permanent Bcc would also do the job in providing such a record trace. However couldn't those messages be included in the copyself as well?

Cheers

Thomas

<p>Dear PM Team, Some time ago I realised that <b>forwarded messages</b> sent with the following options</p><ul><li>"Fwd the message without editing" or</li><li>"Create a MIME container message"</li></ul>do not show in the copyself folder (and there is no option to set the tick as well). Copyself is ON by default in my options settings. However, as it is also indicated under that header that the default settings are for "new messages" and "replies" and I am not sure whether this is actually a bug or wanted feature. I feel that it is important to keep a track record of all messages sent even when they are basically only a fwd ("bounce"). I know that as a work around e.g. such as a permanent Bcc would also do the job in providing such a record trace. However couldn't those messages be included in the copyself as well? Cheers Thomas

[quote user="tmstein"]

Dear PM Team,
Some time ago I realised that forwarded messages sent with the following options

  • "Fwd the message without editing" or
  • "Create a MIME container message"

do not show in the copyself folder (and there is no option to set the tick as well). Copyself is ON by default in my options settings. However, as it is also indicated under that header that the default settings are for "new messages" and "replies" and I am not sure whether this is actually a bug or wanted feature.

I feel that it is important to keep a track record of all messages sent even when they are basically only a fwd ("bounce"). I know that as a work around e.g. such as a permanent Bcc would also do the job in providing such a record trace. However couldn't those messages be included in the copyself as well?

Cheers
Thomas

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For forwarding without editing, this has been discussed on the beta team and David Harris' comment was that you don't actually send the message yourself. Even on the receiving end, your name will not show up without looking at the raw view. Compare: When you have a closed snail mail envelope and just change the address to someone else and put ut back in the mail you can not keep a copy of the content (as the envelope is closed). And such.....
 

Message properties are changed to indicate that the message is forwarded, though.

For the mime container there is a technical reason, like you have to enter the subject and cannot add content.


<p>[quote user="tmstein"]</p><p>Dear PM Team, Some time ago I realised that <b>forwarded messages</b> sent with the following options</p><ul><li>"Fwd the message without editing" or</li><li>"Create a MIME container message"</li></ul><p>do not show in the copyself folder (and there is no option to set the tick as well). Copyself is ON by default in my options settings. However, as it is also indicated under that header that the default settings are for "new messages" and "replies" and I am not sure whether this is actually a bug or wanted feature. I feel that it is important to keep a track record of all messages sent even when they are basically only a fwd ("bounce"). I know that as a work around e.g. such as a permanent Bcc would also do the job in providing such a record trace. However couldn't those messages be included in the copyself as well? Cheers Thomas [/quote]</p><p> </p><p>For forwarding without editing, this has been discussed on the beta team and David Harris' comment was that you don't actually send the message yourself. Even on the receiving end, your name will not show up without looking at the raw view. Compare: When you have a closed snail mail envelope and just change the address to someone else and put ut back in the mail you can not keep a copy of the content (as the envelope is closed). And such.....  </p><p>Message properties are changed to indicate that the message is forwarded, though. </p><p>For the mime container there is a technical reason, like you have to enter the subject and cannot add content. </p><p> </p>

-- Han van den Bogaerde - support@vandenbogaerde.net Member of Pegasus Mail Support Group. My own Pegasus Mail related web information: http://www.vandenbogaerde.net/pegasusmail/

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