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Of course you can. There are two installers available - one is a full install and the other is simply an upgrade from, specifically, 4.51 to 4.52. Make sure you get the full one. Go to http://www.pmail.com to download the file. It's probably available on this site as well.
However, 4.52 won't work on Win95, Win98, WinME so if you've got one of those, just go to 4.51.
Don,
Hm, this sounds more like a more general issue on how you and your partner organise emails and access to them rather then something 100% related to Pegasus Mail (PM). However, PM is very flexible and supports many different scenarios to suit your needs (and it does it much better than many other clients I believe). There are many ways to go about it but here are some ideas and the way I would approach it knowing what you told us. It is fairly easy to implement and probably will do the trick.
- 1- Basic requirements (roughly as to your description - but more generalised)
Messages at home as well as at work
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I hope I haven't completely misunderstood what
you're trying to achieve, but have you looked into the possibility of
Adding Mailbox to list (under Folders)?
Cheers!
Steffan
Hi Steffan, and thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, that is, in fact, the thrust of Thomas R Stephenson's post mentioned above. However, in starting out with his propsal, I did, in fact Added a Mailbox: Archive, and created one of the main folders, to hold dozens of folders (those with the yellow "Folder" icon in My Mailbox, but called "Trays" when I am adding a new one). I Opened it, then attempted to drag a (Yellow Icon) folder into it, only to be met with the message:
You have attempted to move a folder between two mailboxes and one or both of these mailboxes does not support that operation.
The move operation cannot be performed.
Hint: Try creating a new folder in the destination mailbox, then opening it and copying the messages from the source folder into it.
As noted by Sharkfin, below:
[quote user="Sharkfin"]
NO! Not a big D'oh! for me. I can't copy whole folders from one mailbox to another, so there! I can only copy messages, so one would be required to manually recreate the folder structure, which isn't feasible for the OP.
Sorry if I got a bit carried away there!
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And, yes, you are exactly right -- this is not really an option. But even if I went that route, I would have to research how to move that Archive Mailbox out of the current location onto a new drive, where it can sit, but be available when I do have to go back in there, and look something up.
The other thing that Thomas suggests is to do a backup of the current Pegasus directory, with all its messages and so forth. Then I guess that I would have to try out Stuart McLauhian's RestArch to restore them to another Pegasus-readable directory, then reattach them to Pegasus with the "Add New Mailbox to list..."
That also does not seem to efficient, and I am not sure that it would work too well.
So, should I be beginning to get the feeling that there is really no particularly good way to Archive Pegasus' Trays, Folders and messages (along with their attachments) at the present time?
Thanks again for your interest.
[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]
Secondly: Why doesn't Pegasus work at all? Other programs I haveinstalled on Win 7 simply trigger a question like ("Do you want this
program to modify the system?")
Because since the data is also in the same directory structure when you create a using when installing, you would be forever answering this question even when allowed to when accessing/changing data. However since this is data access and not program access Win7 simply does not even ask if you want to do this.
What you can do is install to C:\program files without out the option to create a user and the first time you run the program it will ask you how you want to install the program (single user, multiple user, networked) and where to install the mail directory. You then enter a path to the location where you want to install the mailbox (single user) or top level directory (multiple users or networked). This make is easier if you are copying from a earlier system where you had installed to C:\program files. You copy the mailbox(es) to someplace outside of the C:\program files directory like, c:\pmail, and then point at this when queried.
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Great! 'Now you're talking'! This is the info I needed! This had the exact wanted effect, except for the fact that Pegasus still would not start under Win 7, even though I did NOT check the "create user" option in the install-procedure.
Now the program has it's own directory C:\Pegasusmail and all my mail from the old PC is in a directory under C:\Users\[me] with all the other data and documents. Perfect - almost - now, contrary to the earlier attempts of installation, Win7 asks "Do you want this program to modify the system?" everytime I open Pegasus...
But, thank you again to everbody!
Never mind.
I reinstalled. I must have installed the previous download file by mistake, but it updated to v4.52.
Stan Hilliard
[quote user="TomC"]Thanks, folks! Apparently Bob's not my uncle since I no longer use XP, but installing and registering mapipm.dll did the trick. I thought that was already done automatically in WinPMail 4.52, but I guess not. As always, thanks for your help!
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MAPIPM isn't part of the installer yet, but it's very likely to change with the next release, only SetPMDefault is prepared to deal with it already.
The + and - operators have special meaning, so what you tried to accomplish won't work.
You could "abuse" the Content Control for your use. So you add a new content control definition and set a negative weight (e.g. -999) if one of your tests triggers. Then you can use a normal filter rule which triggers the header entry (X-MySpecialTrigger: 1) and then do what yo want to do with those special messages. Sounds weird but the benefit of the content control is that you can trigger on multiple header entries "IF SUBJECT CONTAINS ..." etc.
BTW, you should never try to directly edit the rule file, better use the filter rule editor for this.
Sven
[quote user="Sharkfin"]
OMG! OMG! Version 5 is out!!!!!! :O :P
Hold your horses. Give David a chance, huh? :)
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Oeps... Mind and fingers out of gear... At least, I've pointed to the correct download...
"Salvage files" using Client/32? That should get back the deleted files, providing the volume isn't overfull.
Tom
"Salvage files" using Client/32? That should get back the deleted files, providing the volume isn't overfull.
Tom
The first thing didn't work, but the second thing did thank heavens. Who'da thunk it would be so easy.
Thanks and hugs Thomas
Ok. Sounds like I need to move Pegasus out of C:\Program Files
Oh, wait. Pegasus is installed in C:\PMAIL
When I installed the 4.52 upgrade, Windows 7 said something about the program not being installed correctly and would I like to "fix" it? I said yes, and it appeared the program update ran through all the motions again.
FWIW, F-Prot A/V didn't detect any problems with 4.52 here.
Nor did checking with all sorts of anti-virus software.
[quote user="Sharkfin"]
Can you confirm whether the filters for your new mail folder (which were on-open but are now on-close) are in a general rule set that is applied to the new mail folder via the right-click option? Do you have anything in the standard New Mail Filtering rules?
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No, I use "New mail filtering rules", not general rules.
[quote user="Sharkfin"]
My standard New Mail filter rules DO move mail to other folders without me opening the New Mail folder, so I'm confused about why that isn't working. What you say about the notification window and having to click on the new mail folder to "refresh" the view DOES match my experience (at least as far as I can remember - almost all of my mail is now filtered to other folders).
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Hmmm. For me, the "moving" happens after the "refreshing". That why I have switched to On-Close rules — in order not to jump around in pursuit of new mail (click on the New Mail folder causing new messages to appear and get filtered, then clicking on the folder to which they were moved)...
[quote user="Sharkfin"]
As to your last question - about IMAP filtering - the issue you describe seems accurate. I find that the IMAP functionality of Pegasus, whilst perfectly usable, feels quite 'bolted-on' and things are not as integrated as one might expect. Well, they certainly don't FEEL properly integrated, anyway.
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Yes, I too find it usable, and, if fact, am using it. But I would like the interface to get more convenient.
I am open to new concepts of UI, but these issues seem to me plain drawbacks, and correctable ones too.
Anton
It seems to me that you should have some rows of Functions above each of your open windows, such as New, Reply, Forward, Delete: that sort of thing.
Why do you not check your Options, (Top Row, Tools > Options, which you can also access with Alt-F10)
Go down to User Interface, and if necessary click on the little ' + " box to see the choices there. I have "A fixed toolbar under the menu" and "Standard" in the drop-down box under "Main window toolbar style".
Wiith these, I have all the mouse choices I could desire ...
Although for Delete, I usually have the item(s) highlighted, and hit either the Delete key or just D instead of running around with the mouse. But Green Trashcans work well, too!
That solved it. Thanks!
I don't mind the compressing at all, I just wish it would not do it
every time I move a message, and more importantly: can I somehow push
that message to the background so I can keep it out of sight?
The compressing of a folder is a critical task and if something happens in the process then it's easy to lose a whole mail folder. That's why the process is a foreground process. You really should not be doing anything else until this process is finished.
You can though make this a manual operation or increase the total size that triggers the compression using Tools | Options | Advanced Settings | Deleted space recovery
When you delete a message, Pegasus Mail does not actually remove the message's data from the folder - instead, it simply marks the message as "deleted", and adds the size of the message data to an internal counter. Whenever the folder is closed, Pegasus Mail checks the internal counter to see if it exceeds a particular size, and if it does, it recovers the space occupied by all the deleted messages in the folder. If the folder is very large, or if you delete information from it frequently, this process of compression may become annoying or may take too long. Changing the value of this control allows you to tune the point at which Pegasus Mail will perform the deleted space recovery operation - setting a large number will make the operation happen less frequently, at the cost of having some of your disk space occupied by "dead" data. Setting this field to 0 turns off deleted space recovery - deleted data will never be removed from the folder, and it will therefore continue to get larger and larger over time. You can manually compress the folder via the right click though.
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I had understood this from Jerry's reply )
And if Jerry's reply was there I would not have answered. ;-) For some reason the posting of my response was delayed for quite some time.
Hi and thanks for pointing, of course!
Did try this UTF-8, but resending bring back not readable letter, even it was now saved into sent folder OK. Then tried KOI8-R and ... seems to this did the trick, also resending did work out well, it come back in readable form! =)
More thanks, Alar.
When you send to Bcc: addresses you create two separate messages. One goes to the To: and Cc: addresses, one goes to the Bcc: addresses only. You are sending to the SMTP mail addresses using a RCPT TO: SMTP address. You need to run session logging to see exactly what you are sending to the SMTP host. Here's a sample of a session log. Note the e-mail addresses in the body of the message sent after the DATA line has nothing to do with the actual SMTP addresses in the MAIL FROM: and RCPT TO: lines.
