Hi Steffan,

Thanks for your concern.

You are right that it has nothing to do with that thread except ... in a way it does. You see I started my server machine (on which Pegasus mail program and mailboxes reside) off the network so that Mercury would not start downloading the mails before I had recopied the new mailbox files as explained) over to the server from the USB key. I then started up Pegasus to see if it had worked correctly. I then got this error message. It appears that this computer has to be on the network for the installation to wok as the path is a network path.

As soon as I put this computer back on the network everything worked perfectly, including the cleaned up mailbox.

I did not touch the Pegasus mail program directory at all. The mailboxes reside on a different drive on the machine and the only files I copied from the key were in the mailbox.

Cheers!

Ellie

No, I'm almost certain you can't remove the local mailbox. Perhaps you mean the local New Mail folder? As far as I know, being a crucial part of the system -whether you use it or not - it can't be removed. However, if you're using other local folders anyway, does the existence of this one extra line annoy you that much?

> But if you do want to leave them on the server, outlook flags it so that it knows not to retrieve multiple copies. Pegasus doesnt,
> meaning that every time it polls the server, it downloads another copy of the same messages to the inbox. I had 50 copies of the same
> email in my box!!

Biut Pegasus Mail does know how to do this.  Have you set Pegasus Mail to leave the mail on the server and to only download unread mail?

Download only unread mail  The usual practice when retrieving mail from a POP3 host is to delete it from the host when it is successfully downloaded. If you do not delete it, you would normally expect to see it again the next time you download mail from the host. Pegasus Mail incorporates a powerful and complicated facility which allows you to leave mail on the POP3 host without deleting it, but only download mail you haven't already seen. Because the POP3 protocol does not actually provide this facility, there are some limitations on this command, the most specific being that if you run Pegasus Mail on more than one machine, each one willhave a separate list of what you have already seen; so, if you download mail using one machine then access your account later from a different machine, you will probably get the mail you downloaded the first time again, where downloading the mail on the same machine you originally used would only show mail which had arrived since the last time you accessed your account. Check this control to instruct Pegasus Mail to attempt to download only mail you have not read. The effect of this control is probably meaningless if you do not also uncheck the "Delete retrieved mail on host" control. Using this feature can significantly increase the time it takes for Pegasus Mail to retrieve your new mail.

When attaching an attachment drag and drop is no longer supported. Using the buttons and browsing a file will work.

[quote user="Eshtaol"]

I still cannot create the "add a mailbox" though and would like to... for any future dealings

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What is it that you're unable to do?

Cheers!
Steffan

I just found it, the link is at the top of the thread, or rather it is in my view as the original poster.

Thanks again

[quote user="panworks"]Thanks for your response, Pegasus was selcted as default e mail in set up. and I selected it as system mailer in options>hyperlinks. As for the path specification i am not sure where to do that. The "no communication with pegasus" dialogue I get is labeled "wsendto" if that tells me anything. I appreciate the help.[/quote]

Please try installing MAPI support as described at its which you may go to via the SetPMDefault utility download page as you'll need the latter as well and it links to the MAPI page itself. It may not help, though, but giving it a try provides some more diagnostic hints (I'm currently setting up a Windows 7 system for myself, so I'll probably get more insights rather soon).

Thanks a lot, Steffan

That was very helpful.

[quote user="jss1941"]

This has been a problem with Pmail for some time.  Most annoying! 

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Strange. I have not seen this behaviour before using 4.5. It always worked fine in previous versions.

[quote user="Sharkfin"]Oh, let's not beat about the bush here - it IS a bug in the program, but as I alluded to before, the maximise/restore problem is a long-standing one. I don't know why or how it's still around but hopefully you understand the triggers better now and know how to deal with it.[/quote]

Well, I don't feel quite so much like an idiot now. I can live with a bug AND doing my maximizing  manually. At least it holds its size...

All previous versions of Pmail never gave me this problem, so that added to my puzzlement.

Again, I appreciate your help and patience. I'm not usually so dense!  [:|]

Robert

> So far, from the other (awkwardly long and disjointed thread) it seems that different folks see different symptoms at different times.  Some degree of intermittancy is pretty obvious.
> This is going to be a tricky one to debug.  :-(

This is specific to Win7 and David's not going to be making any changes to Pegasus Mail until he can see the problem in Win7.   Probably it's going to be no problem at all to fix once David gets his Win7 development system up and running

[quote user="Ellie Kennard"]

Would this method not keep the deleted mails still in place on the home system? To prevent this, should I (after making a backup in case) delete all the .PMM and .PMI files in the home folder before copying the ones from the stick to that folder?[/quote]

That is not necessary. What I understand from what you have described is that the folders are identical when you leave. When you travel, you work with the mail folders on your stick, deleting mail, moving mail etc. When you get back home and copy the folders back to your home system, you should get the prompt that you're about to overwrite (*.PMM and *.PMI) files coupled with the question whether you wish to proceed. If you overwrite the old files (after making a backup), you will just end up with the new files. For a better understanding, it may help to know that the *.PMM files are ASCII files that contain the various folders' entire collections of mail lumped together. To get an idea what such a file looks like, trying opening it a text editor. The *.PMI files are the mail *index* folders.

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Will this ensure that the moved files are in the correct folders, too? Sounds too easy to be true, if that is the case! I love Pegasus Mail for the ease of restoring backups and, in this case, doing this complicated procedure with such apparent ease.

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Yes, it will :-)

Cheers!
Steffan

thank you,

I will test that later today when I use a machine away from home.

Have a nice day.

Chuck

Thomas Stephenson suggested that I reinstall Pegasus Mail over my current version as an update. This fixed the problem and I was able to retrieve all of my old messages.

 Thanks Thomas!

Several years old but...

Like many fastmail users, I changed to insecuressl.messagingengine.com for POP3/IMAP/SMTP to overcome SSL issues. Pegasus 4.70 now works with mail.messagingengine.com & SSL.

Well done to the Pegasus team.

I don't see anything "garbled". I see what I expect - the raw message data including headers.

To transfer messages you are best off using the "add mailbox" option to temporarily connect to a folder and then drag your messages there. Searching these forums will give you fuller instructions on using this method.

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

And using CTRL+Delete (CTRL+Y if using confirmations) is quicker since it bypasses saving the deleted messages.  ;-)

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I'm a little wary of such drastic measures :-) I prefer to use the Deleted messages folder (which I've set to persist between sessions) as a safety net. Attached to this folder, though, is a folder-close mail filtering rule that deletes all messages that are older than one day. Pmail's mail filtering rules rule!

Cheers!
Steffan

Thanks to all.

 1. For Steffen, I agree is not a good politic to change both windows and pegasus. I have to say that searching for a solution I downgraded to 4.41 from 4.51. That is, I installed 4.41 over the normal directory and .....now it seems to work !!!. The only problem is the icons affair which still do not work (text, text and figures, etc that I have heard in this forum) but that is minor and I can work. Therefore, windows 7 and pegasus 4.41 work nicely in my hands.

 2. As for the other solution, thanks. I will try reinstalling 4.51 again and creating session logs and will paste here for experience administrators. Thanks a lot.

Very astute diagnosis, Dilbert. Kudos.

I do it slightly differently.

I have used PM for over 10 years now and keep a lot of folders. I have 3 PCs now: 1 at work, 1 at home and 1 for the road. I also have a USB key and have isntalled on all three PCs the software SyncBackSE. Every time I go from place to the other, I sync the mail folder exclusively and exclude the *.ini files from any comparison.

In this way, I ahve all new mails, all folders, all addressbooks etc on the USB key and I just plug into the PC I am going to use and sync again taking care to delete the "new" mail in the receiving PC since these have been dealt with before. 

It works perfectly, never a loss of data and no need to worry about disk crashes any longer. 

Btw , I use WinXP x32 and x64 on my machines.