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Sharkfin posted Mar 23 '09 at 8:18 pm

I've been setting up a template today. I tried to set the maximum length of a single-line string variable to 3 characters but it seems that I can type longer than that and it all gets accepted, rather than only the first three characters. Nor does it stop me typing beyond three characters.

I've since tested with the other forms of string variables such as passwords and again the length limit seems to be ignored. Is this a bug or am I misunderstanding or misusing the length argument? I have written the template using the editor, not by hand.

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tjunker posted Mar 24 '09 at 9:21 pm

> I would say to take a backup of the current C:\PMAIL folder, then

copy the HIERARCH.PM & PMAIL.INI from your previous backup.

> This should restore the folder structure & options to the state at the time of the backup.

> Any new folders added since then should show up in the root level of the mailbox.

 

There we go.  That's the solution I was looking for.

 > Without wanting to sound harsh, backing up your mission critical data a bit more frequently may be in order.

Yeah, yeah, we all know that. I've been developing software and operating production sites for more than 45 years.  It's just a repetitive phenomenon that I'm often shocked at how much time has slipped by since I intended to do something important.  It's easier at commercial production sites where operator procedures can be set up and run like clockwork.  Here in my home office it's the shoemaker's son thing.

Thank you.

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davews posted Mar 22 '09 at 5:27 pm

You no longer need to 'order' the manual for Pegasus, for a year or so it has been available for free download at http://www.pmail.com/downloads_s3_t.htm There is also provision for donating to the project via PayPal (though I can't seem to find the relevant page at the moment?). Presumably you used the "Buy Manuals" button within Pegasus Mail? You should at least get an acknowledgement of the donation you made by doing that, but do please remember that David Harris is in New Zealand so there is a time difference. But you don't need to wait to get your manual.

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Thomas Morwinsky posted Mar 23 '09 at 8:39 pm

Thanks guys for the feedback (and especially the tip concerning my log). I just changed my password, and it seems to work again with PM. I'll keep a close look on the further development though ;)

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jss1941 posted Mar 23 '09 at 3:42 pm

[quote user="BethM"]

I am a long-term Pegasus Mail user (10+years).  Prior to this point with any new PC/laptop/etc..to set it up all I've had to do is install the program and then copy over my mail folder and boom it works.  I've always been able to count on just having to move the mail folder to whichever machine I need to and everything is current.

 I'm now at a point that it's time to replace my desktop and/or my laptop.  My question is two-fold...

 First, other than the winhelp issue and the default mailto, are there any other issues people are having with installing to Vista (either 32 bit or 64 bit) and moving their current mail folder from WinXP to Vista?

 Secondly, any issues moving that same mail folder back and forth between a Vista machine and a WinXP machine?

 Can't teach an old dog new tricks and I don't want to have to switch mail clients.

 Thanks

[/quote]

No problems, and the two 'quirks' you mentioned have well documented solutions.

 As for moving the current Mail folder between Vista and XP, no problems.  I did this between Win2K and Vista for several months. Just make sure that you set Pmail up the same way on both systems (single vs multiple users).

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jem posted Mar 19 '09 at 8:13 pm

Thank you for the quick reply!

I assume this means direct access and not IMAP4 or POP3. 

Yes it is accessed directly through a mapped drive. (Drive F)

I assume that you mean the users mail directory on the server contains all of these files. 

Yes the user's mail directory is on the server and mail files and folders are in his mail directory. 

What does his mail client show when you hit Help | About Pegasus Mail | Info for the new mail directory.

Pegasus Mail for Microsoft Windows
Copyright (C) 1992-2002, David Harris, all rights reserved
Electronic mail to support@pmail.gen.nz.

WinPMail version: V4.02 (Win32), Aug  1 2002
Language resources: Standard UK English resource set
Extension Manager version: 1.11
Operating mode: Standalone
User name and ID: Single-user mode, 0
Windows version: 5.1
Windows flag word: 0
WINPMAIL.EXE directory: C:\Program Files\Pegasus
Home mailbox location: F:\MAIL\JEFFREY
New mailbox location: F:\MAIL\JEFFREY
TMP environment variable:
C:\DOCUME~1\JEFFRE~1.AUB\LOCALS~1\Temp
TEMP environment variable:
C:\DOCUME~1\JEFFRE~1.AUB\LOCALS~1\Temp
LAN-based SMTP support: N, N, N
NetWare MHS support: N, N, N
Built-in TCP/IP support: Enabled
  - WINSOCK version: WinSock 2.0
  - WINSOCK path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.DLL
Commandline:
Active -Z options: 32768
PMR variable: (None)
PML variable: (None)
MAI variable: (None)
NB variable: (None)

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additional comment:

Just copied one of his CNM files to my Pegasus email folder, restarted pegasus and it appeared in my New mail folder.
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He is running in Preview Mode. When I switch to the non-preview mode same problem persists.

Sorting in Date order (high to low)

I can not attch his email right now will try that later.

 

Thanks again 

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Sharkfin posted Mar 23 '09 at 8:12 pm

The folders are referred to internally via the names of the files that constitute that folder.

If you right-click on a folder and select "Folder information", you see a window telling you name of the file that contains the information for this folder. 

It sounds like you are saying that the folders you want to delete have no name beside them in Pegasus. You will therefore have to find the line in Hierarch.PM which includes the folder filename.

Remember to make a backup of files before you edit them!

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There is no support for POP3 or IMAP in the program.  Can anyone tell me if I can continue to use pegasus and if so how to configure the software to run in the new environment.

Since PMail can only connect to Exchange via IMAP4 or POP3 you are pretty much out of luck unless they provide some sort of webmail service that can be used with Mr Postman.  Since Mr Postman  says it can do Outlook Web Access you might give it a try.

MrPostman is a java program that allows you to access Yahoo Mail, Hotmail and other webmail services directly from your favorite mail client. 

It converts the web pages of your favorite webmail provider to e-mails and provides the standard POP interface to your mail client (e.g. Outlook Express, Netscape or Mozilla Mail, Thunderbird, Pegasus Mail). 

MrPostman is Free Software, released under the terms of the GNU Public License.

Currently supported webmail providers:

    * Hotmail
    * mail.com
    * Yahoo
    * gmail (Google mail)
    * indiatimes.com
    * juno
    * rediffmail
    * Gossamer mail
    * Outlook Web Access (Exchange 5.5)
    * Outlook Web Access 2003


http://sourceforge.net/projects/mrpostman/

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Mar 18 '09 at 4:02 pm

[quote user="zac"]Hi,

the filter for incoming mail sometimes works, sometimes not. (for the same rule as well as for different rules)

Also if i try to apply tools-> Mail filtering rules -> Apply general rule set to folder results in exact _no_ action.

Either i misinterpret the aim of filter rules or i overlook some constraints  or the implementation is be broken.

Do someone have an idea what went wrong ??

Regards

Norbert[/quote]

What is/are the filter rule(s)?  The text from the winrules.pmc is preferred.

 

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ajwest posted Mar 21 '09 at 11:05 am

Many thanks Thomas. I also found that "Subject" could also be used to supply 'Subj:' automatically.

regards

Alistair West

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Sharkfin posted Mar 22 '09 at 6:41 pm

You are seeing this only for some users? Is there any connection between these users?

Are all outgoing messages from these accounts affected or do internal messages work fine?

I have to admit that I can't understand what could be causing the text you have shown us. I wonder whether there is some other stage of the mail-sending process which is causing this. Do the affected signatures contain any HTML, PHP, JavaScript or some other code?

One thing that has just occurred to me - are you viewing these strange bits of text in Word (used by Outlook)? It's just that it looks like a Word field entry. Don't know why that would show up though.

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Lythande posted Mar 26 '09 at 9:57 pm

[quote user="PEC"] At first I called this a serious bug.  However, maybe I should

rephrase it and call it a serious flaw in the philosophy behind the

programming which gives rise to what is tantamount to a serious flaw in

the program whether that is strictly a bug or not doesn't matter much,

it's still the job of the programmers and designers (to my mind) to

watch out for and at least be aware of the implications and act

accordingly.[/quote]

 I agree that it is a serious flaw in the philosopy of the programmers, and that flaw is to ignore standards and release sub-par software (Billy Boy, are you listening?)  Personally, I salute David for following the standards so stringently.  I could live with a warning message that the incoming mail breaks the rules, but not with David ignoring the standards to comply with crappy software--especially when doing so would open up security issues.

 Lyth

 

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I

Thanks for the replies so far.

In a kinda way, there is a limit to space in puppylinux.

~/.wine, where the pmail program resides is part of what's called personal space.

I have 27MB left in there, but the pmail data is on another external HDD on which at the time of the issue had 500GB free. I cleared some more and have now 2.3GB free. This HDD is /sdb1. (In wine addressed as e:\) The total of pmail data is 1.5GB.

Knowing that pmail uses the /temp directory I cleaned it and this seemed to give a bit of more relieve. 

 

Maybe the 27MB left for /temp is considered too low compared to the 1.5GB of data already there. 

Hence my question how the pmail program defines when there is too little space.

 

I'll see at the wine 1.1.16 as well and come back if this has (or not) solved the issue.

This may take a while, as I depend on the developers of puppylinux to make 1.1.16 available as a installable package. 

 EDIT

Forgot to say in puppylinux one runs as root. 

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SvenH posted Mar 9 '09 at 2:08 pm

It's not adjustable, unfortunately. The reason for this is the current folder format being used by Pegasus Mail.The actual limit is the index file structure and this can't be changed until we get a new folder format in later versions.

 

HTH

Sven

 

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Thank you very much, Thomas

I tried your way nº 2, and I GOT IT. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can imagine my feelings when I recovered old adresses, old attachments and some old beloved messages.

Again, from sunny Spain to sunny California, lots of thanks. 

 

 

 

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