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irelam posted Feb 20 '09 at 12:50 am

See article: http://community.pmail.com/forums/thread/1600.aspx

 HTH

Martin

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dilberts_left_nut posted Feb 17 '09 at 9:11 pm

I would suspect it is being put there by your ISP (or before).

You could turn on diagnostic logging to check the actual data being downloaded to be sure.

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Casa posted Feb 18 '09 at 12:29 am

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]

To increase the speed of step 1 I moved the program to my hard drive first.

The

empty original folder still consists this data error after step 2. Now

I would blindly go to step 4 if the original folders name was not

Main.pmm. Is this fact insignificant and will I proceed the next 12

years without Main.pmm? Or can I simply rename the filename of the new

folder to Main.pmm?

Not that big a deal anymore.  It is one of the unique folders though and renaming the PMM and PMI files might make it easier for you to work with the folders.  I keep an older version of PMail around that will enable me to rename the file.  ;-)

After more than 12 years of updating

versions, I'm afraid I already have a quite untypical and maybe messy

setup (i.e. no 'Program' folder I keep reading about on this forum). So

I'm a little sensitive about this kind of changes. In fact my next

topic on this forum was going to be how I can install a clean version

4.52 and later add my settings and data to this new install instead of

installing over the old version.

I personally believe this is a waste of time.  I've had PMail installed in the c"\pmail directory since I was running PMail for MSDOS in the early 90's.  I have never done anything but install the new version over the old.  When I updated the computer I just copied from the old hard drives and actually never do a new install except for testing.  ;-)  I also have PMail 3.5x, WinPMail v2.5x, 3.x, 4.41 and v4.5 all pointing at the same mailbox directories so I can test out and support older versions as well.  I do use the -Y <filename> commandline option so that older WinPMail versions do not mess up my v4.5 PMail.ini.  ;-)

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Ok, it was hard for me but I did it. Main folder is gone... Maybe I will even install 4.52 over this version... Again... ;)

Thanks for solving the issue!

Casa

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[quote user="Tabitha"]

This suggestion didn't do the trick, but it did point me in the right direction.  I will need to copy a few folders, but I've got my new mail folder back.

Not sure what you mean.  You said you were missing the new mail folder in the folder listing.  Were you missing other folders as well? If so you probably have a bad hierarch.pm as well.

Thank you for your help.

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[quote user="JohnnyK"]Thomas

Many thanks; that worked a treat.

 I didn't find these Content Control values; are they buried in Spamhalter somewhere?

Thanks

Use Tools |  Spam and Content control | Content control and edit the Content control file you are using.  Go to "Message tests" and set a limit in "Check at most this many bytes in each message

If you enter a value greater than zero here, Pegasus Mail will only scan that many characters in each message when applying your content control rule set. This can reduce the time taken to perform content control, but can also result in less undesirable mail being detected. If you find that Content Control is taking a significant amount of time on your system (for instance, if you receive many large messages), entering a value of around 8000 in here will typically provide a good balance between speed and detection.

Note that when scanning multipart messages, Pegasus Mail adds together the size of each text section it scans to calculate the number of bytes it has scanned - it does not simply blindly read through the file
.[/quote]

Personally I would recommend using something like 4000 rather then the recommended 8000 so you do not get into scanning the encoded attachments.

 

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Feb 16 '09 at 6:24 pm

[quote user="arnaudherve"]Nevertheless, whatever the settings for the OS could be, Pmail should save the files as they are, not make them unusable.

This also includes respecting the names of the attachments, imho.

PMail does not control this.  Years back it did when David actually wrote the file management process and when the OS's changed it caused major problems.  Everyone said they would rather have the OS do this.  As a result he went to simply doing a windows call and passing the file operations off to the OS so that  it did not matter what OS was being used.  The real problem is that MS Windows defaults to not showing the extensions when it knows what they are and then not adding the extension when saving the file.[/quote]

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nadevel posted Mar 4 '09 at 11:19 pm

Some others have had this problem with both KAV and KIS.We think we have found the solution.

Go to http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=92508&st=20&#entry906011 for guidance.

 

 

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irelam posted Feb 15 '09 at 8:25 pm

Hello,

  Along with a message that crashes Pegasus Mail, please forward me your Bearhtml.log which will be reporting what was happening at the time of the crash.  My email address is irelam@telus.net

Martin

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hogman posted Feb 15 '09 at 7:31 pm

Thomas,

When I mentioned that I renamed the files, I did not change the extent. Bingo, I finally realized that that may be the problem.

After changing the extent on 2 pmr's the problem is solved.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction..

Now to watch some serous ACC basketball. 

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[quote user="dilberts_left_nut"][quote user="lesslame"]Hi, thanks for your comments.

  • Changing the actual *.cnm file seems more complicated than necessary, using the message properties (F12 in Pegasus) seemed to do the same thing.[/quote]Not sure if Peg actually changes the header or just updates the index, is why I suggested checking it.[/quote]

Yep, you are right, F12 only changes a field in the cnm-file called "X-PMFLAGS: 5761928...", whereas all other fields (e.g. "Priority: Urgent") are left unchanged.

 

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cadcambrafe posted Feb 23 '09 at 9:53 am

Yes, I am also aware of this problem. You need to wait until the next release of Pmail or use the beta v4.51.

You're probably not doing anything wrong. I believe it's just a minor bug.

Cheers. SJS

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jss1941 posted Feb 14 '09 at 5:32 pm

[quote user="breezes"][quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"]


Are you using Spamhalter?  Have you done the right click on the message to change the Spamhalter classification?  Moved the mail out of the junk mail folder to re-classify?  

 


[/quote]

 

Is it really that easy?  I had no idea.  It took me about twenty seconds to teach Pegasus to "like" the news letter .  Now I have to wait about a month to verify.

 

Thank you, sir.

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Even easier, perhaps.  Right-click on the email and click "Add to global whitelist"  That should do the trick!

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arnaudherve posted Feb 11 '09 at 3:57 pm

[quote user="Ellie Kennard"]

How very odd.

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Indeed. "Old New Mail" in itself opens a brand new world of poetry.

 

It reminds me of that TV series of long ago, the story was about mail lost in a plane accident, the plane was found in the mountains decades after, and each episode consisted of delivering that mail to various people.

 

Closer to us, you have The Postman by Kevin Costner. I found the film quite interesting.

 

Ha ha! Sorry for being a bit literary today!

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I'm not even sure what the three pain view is.  I think I saw that somewhere, but I can't find it now.  It could be what I'm using.  What I need help with is this:

 

Since I'm starting a business which will be conducted mainly via email, I would like to keep the business folders separate from the personal ones.  I could not find a way to do that other than just putting them into folders and closing them.  Is there a way to have different folders showing for different identities?

 I have a personal identify and one for the business, but the folders are the same for both.  I was trying to use Outlook Express for my personal account since I really don't like it, and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles that I need for handling business emails.  Does anyone have any other ideas that might work?

Also, I had to manually create all of the mailboxes and folders for my personal information in Outlook, but I found no way to move my personal emails from Pegasus to Outlook since they aren't compatible.  At this point, I could get rid of Outlook entirely since there are no emails in it.  All I have there so far are folders and my address book.

 The other thing is that I'm receiving emails from both identifies in Pegasus even though I have set the business one for the default.  Could I disable the personal one in Pegasus so I just get the business emails in that program?  Am I wrong for using two separate programs?  I may be making this more complicated than it is.  Personally, I would like to do away with personal emails completley, but my friends would not be happy with me, and I do need to keep in touch with my friends.

 Also, I am getting two of every email that comes into Pegasus.  It was worse.  Last night and earlier today I was getting the same emails downloaded from the server constantly!  I called my ISP, and they had no idea why I would get multiple emails.  I think he should have known because my sister had that problem once in the past.  Maybe it will sort itself out.  I've changed the setting so many times that I don't know if they're right or not.

 I'm sorry to make this so long, but I just wondered how the rest of you handle personal and business accounts.  There has to be an easier way.  I was hoping I could set up different folders to view for each identity, but that doesn't seem to work.

 Thanks!

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Anne Wainwright posted Feb 15 '09 at 6:01 pm

Hello, Thomas,

 As I walked the dog in the rain the missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle popped (excuse the pun) into place. I _knew_ that you were writing on it and rushed home but you beat me to it.

 Not having Pegasus here on this old m/c I may be wrong in the name, but when you set up Pegasus clients to connecting to the server I think using pconfig (?) you can set the path & extension to match the new mail file location (I need to screw the server back together before I can say what that is) which by default is .CNM but can be set otherwise. So no need to change the new mail extension to suit, Pegasus allows you to set up server access to suit

I wasn't planning on having a GUI server, the Ubuntu standard server version is command line only. Still, I will make a plan to try at least Pegasus under Wine. Expect me back on that, but not for a while until other things have been cleared.

Thanks so much Thomas.

Anne

 

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> Greetings
>
> How do I convert a very large numbers of standard folders and mails (2GB) to a public folder efficiently? Lately our company have grown and
> the need to access Pegasus mail boxes from any computer has grown. Unfortunatly our Pegasus mail system is configured as a single user
> environment. We could move everything manually but that would take a very long time.

FWIW, I would simply install Pegasus Mail on a "server" in the Multiuser mode and then copy the folders (everything but the pmail.ini) to the system on the server.  You would then just need a shortcut the the Pegasus Mail program.  I believe this would be a LOT more efficient than trying to move the mail to public folders and the access to the mail would be faster as well.

1.  Install WinPmail in the multiuser mode on the "server".  Use c:\pmail
    for the program; c:\pmail\mail for the mail directories.

2.  Run PCONFIG.exe from the WinPMail program directory and change the HOME and
    NEW mail directory specification to the \\server\vol\pmail\mail\~8
    format.

3.  Go to the remote workstations and install a shortcut to the common
    program.

4.  Install Mercury/32 on this same server pointing to the Pegasus Mail
    directory structure.  Use MercuryD, MercuryS, MercuryC at least. Use
    \\server\vol\mercury\queue for the mail spool directory.

5.  Point MercuryD at all of your POP3 mailboxes to download the mail to
    your Pegasus Mail user directories.

You can now do the copying of the users folders to the new installation.  Again, everything but the pmail.ini can be copied.

6.  If you want to maintain other POP3/IMAP4 clients, point the client at
    the at your Mercury/32 host as a POP3 and SMTP host using the Pegasus
    Mail username and password to pickup the mail.

You can do a complete inbound and outbound mail archive with this setup using a simple Mercury/32 "Always" filter that put a copy in a users mail directory.

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