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[quote user="jonathan"]

First of all, i don't understand or know, all i need to know about networking, etc. BUT the majority of us have our own IP addresses which are provided by our broadband ISPs. I have a home network with a few extra computers and i have always wondered... "How, do i process my own email?". Why can't i send an email to "blah@myipaddress.com" and retrieve a test email?

I challenge anyone out there to provide a guide... a "dummy" guide... which instructs the normal user on how to install Mercury/pickup email, etc.

I am lost... and this Mercury for Dummies might just sell a few more licenses!

I've really tried but there are way too many options and configurations that means that it's not all that simple. The dummy setup would be using a fixed IP address with your own domain name and DNS entry MX host entry pointing to your system running Mercury/32 and I've probably already use 2-3 terms that are not familar to you.

1.  To receive mail from a single POP3 account with many users takes some knowledge as to the headers provided by the ISP.  Without that your are dependend on the addresses in the body of the message and in many cases the users email address is not there.

2.  To receive mail via SMTP really requires a fixed IP address but it can be done with a random IP address when using a domain from something like http://dyndns.cog.

3.  To send mail via MercuryE  requires both a fixed IP address and no port 25 blocking.  To send via MercuryC requires a relay host that allows relaying.  There are ways to get around many of these things but it does take a lot of knowledge of the SMTP mail system to make this work

That said there are a number of entries at http://kbase.pmail.gen.nz/mercury32.cfm that do provide a lot of information about the basic operation and setup of Mercury/32.  You might want to check it out.

And finally here is the basic setup local lan setup for Mercury/32 and Pegasus Mail:

1.  Install WinPmail in the multiuser mode on the "server".  Use c:\pmail for the program; c:\pmail\mail for the mail directories.

2.  Run PCONFIG.exe from the WinPMail program directory and change the HOME and NEW mail directory specification to the \\server\vol\pmail\mail\~8
    format.

3.  Go to the remote workstations and install a shortcut to the common program.

Ok, now you have the basic mail system setup.  You can send mail to each other using Pegasus Mail. 

4.  Install Mercury/32 on this same server pointing to the Pegasus Mail directory structure.  Use MercuryD, MercuryS, MercuryC at least. Use
    \\server\vol\mercury\queue for the mail spool directory.

5.  Point MercuryD at all of your POP3 mailboxes to download the mail to your Pegasus Mail user directories.

You now can send and receive Internet mail via Pegasus Mail.  The mail is delivered to the Pegasus Mail directories automatically.  You send mail simply but putting the output files into the Mercury/32 mail spool directory.  This is accomplished automatically with a Pegasus Mail User Defined Gateway. 

6.  If you want to maintain other POP3/IMAP4 clients, point the client at the at your Mercury/32 host as a POP3 and SMTP host using the Pegasus Mail username and password to pickup the mail.

You can do a complete inbound and outbound mail archive with this setup using a simple Mercury/32 "Always" filter that put a copy in a users mail directory.

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cadcambrafe posted Jan 22 '09 at 8:54 am

Just one of those things you may or may not notice when you play around with the setup. Some people may call them "bugs", but I prefer "workarounds".

Cheers. SJS.

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jan 21 '09 at 11:17 pm

[quote user="arnaud"]Hello.

I've 200 Users and i want upgrade 3.12 --> 4.41. When i installed the 4.41 i lost my Internet Options (SMTP & POP). Do you have a solution  in order to keep my options. I know in 3.12 their are in PMAIL.ini and 4.41 in users'profile  popxxx.pnd and smtxxx.pnd.

Not sure what to tell you here.  This conversion works for me when updating from v3.12c to v4.41.  Maybe I do not have enough information as to what you are doing.

Do I have to pass on each profile to keep the settings ?

Thank you for your help[/quote]

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irelam posted Jan 20 '09 at 12:02 am

I suggest you check if either Temp or Tmp environment variables are set.  In P.M. Help menu, go into the About Pegasus Mail menu item and click info button.

If they are not set (typically point to your My Documents\Local Settings\Temp directory or c:\temp) you will need to set them up, via Control Panel/System/Advanced/Environmental Variables.

HTH

Martin

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George posted Jul 17 '10 at 4:19 am

[quote user="Thomas R. Stephenson"][quote user="locators"]

  I have been using Pegasus for many years and over this time, I have had a number of crashes which made me start over.  

 When this happened, I simply changed my directory name, kept the old messages in a renamed directory and started over.

I would like to get all of this information into one user name, merged from several different user names and then re-sort, re-categorize and refile all of the data.

What concerns me is that the file numbering system in Pegasus Mail may assign duplicate numbers to different messages, and allow some to be overwritten and destroyed.

Can you advise me how you merged the files without this being done

I would use the  "Add mailbox to list" function and then move the messages from the added mail folders into folders in the mail mailbox.  You can;t move the folders between mailboxes and so there will be no file overwriting in any case.  If there are any message in the new mail folder then move them as well, even to the new mail folder since the move process will not allow the same CNM file name.

Thanks

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I have a similar problem, have made the link as suggested but it only shows the messages in the very top level, and not in the folders beneath the mailbox.


Can someone please give me guidance / help. (I have tught of moving everting to the top level then sorting it back from there but that is a lot of work


George 

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Bravo!  Pegasus is up and running again.  When I found the .PMM files I also found the .CNM files - no idea why they didn't turn up earlier.  At any rate, I created a temp folder and moved all files of both extensions into it, and opened the program.  Oddly, it seems that I have lost the sub-folders I created but all files seem to have ended up in the Main folder.  By the way, my path was C:\(my computer stuff)\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\MAIL.

Cheers,

 Rob

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rdalhoff posted Jan 16 '09 at 11:53 pm

Is there anyway to increase the size of the Telltale notification window in Pegasus?  Our users were used to the large NetWare popup notification window.  We were forced to move to a Windows Server and lost that feature.  Many users want the large notification window because they supposeldy do not see the little Telltale window.  Sound does not help because they want to see the large popup when they return to their desk after being gone.

Randy

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Tom Stein posted Jan 20 '09 at 4:19 am

Martin,
I have compiled a set of messages some time ago which likely cause some crashes. This does not happen all the time but clicking forth and back on various messages a few times may trigger the crash (preview as well opening in own window). I suspect that it would be related to html rendering problems (I am not a programmer)? I will send you the tow zip files which hold several messages for you to test.
Cheers
Thomas

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groknet posted Jan 17 '09 at 5:22 am

Tx  :-)  Well i should have found that...

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jan 16 '09 at 4:56 pm

[quote user="grantmj"]

Great! Thanks so much! That's exactly what I needed to know!  Do you think it's worth the upgrade or should I wait until v.5 is done?

Personally I'd go to v4.5 over v4.41 and the upgrade from v4.21c is definitely worth it no matter which one you select..

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[quote user="blur5"]hm...no answer....??

 i did try to save to localdisk, doesn't work, then UNC path to server, also doesn't work.

I'm sorry, I do not know what "doesn't work" means.   Since the next sentence says you can do this from the attachment view what are you trying to do.

i have to dbl-click the message, goes to attachment tab, choose the attched pdf and save, it worked.

any ideas, i never had this problem before if i'm using pmail install on each user computer.

problem only sometimes occured, if i running pmail on shared UNC path.

 any ideas?[/quote]

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wordmaster posted Jan 16 '09 at 5:25 pm

It is nice to get help from a true expert! You hit the nail on the head with the read only. Somehow the whole folder was designated read only. I changed the attribute and now everything is working. BTW, I am running win2k pro. Again, thank you.

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WendelB posted Jan 15 '09 at 1:49 am

I believe I figured out what was going on. A detail I failed to mention was that as I moved the messages I also deleted the old folder because it was no longer used. I think I may have inadvertantly deleted the new folder while attempting to delete the old one. As you suggested I stopped my Trend Micro AV and tried moving messages and it worked fine. At the same time I decided to not delete the old folder until later. I moved messages from many folders with no consequence. Even after deleting the old folders later there was still no problem. I restarted the AV and still had no problems.

I would recommend to the programmers of Pegasus to put the name of the folder in the caution about deleting a folder so the user knows exactly which folder they are deleting. Thank you very much for your support and input.

Wendel 

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cadcambrafe posted Jan 19 '09 at 10:28 am

Ttsar, I have also experienced this problem. It appears to be related to HTML messages. I have found that by disabling BearHTML, at lot of these types of problems go away (see my currently active post on Pmail and BearHTML).

Thanks., SJS.

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jmccabe posted Jan 4 '10 at 12:34 pm

Hi Ellie/Thomas (David?)

I'm a member of a number of Yahoo groups and have the same problem. I'm aware of what the RFCs say about this but, as a software developer myself who has had to write software to implement certain RFCs, I'm also aware of Postel's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle). This says that an application authors should:

Be conservative in what you do; be liberal in what you accept from others.

In other words, when you're sending a message in SMTP format you should strictly adhere to the rules that are stated in the RFC (this is where many, many modern email clients and web based apps break the rules) however, when you're receiving a message supposedly in SMTP format, you should accept that the rules may be broken and try to cope with them. It is this latter part where Pegasus falls down and, despite having been a user of Pegasus for 15 years or so (including making a couple of, albeit relatively small, contributions to its development), it is this part that (along with a couple of others) is causing me to seriously assess whether I should change to use a different email client. In fact I have been assessing Thunderbird recently as it now seems to have all the features I generally use in Pegasus, as well as an extension to password protect Profiles (albeit a relatively simple one, but that is adequate for my needs).

The other issue that is causing me grief is the handling of hyperlinks when messages are read as plain text and configured to have long lines reformatted. The reformatting breaks the hyperklinks. Thunderbird doesn't seem to have this problem, and nor does Outlook, but whenever an email message contains hyperlinks longer than the width of my message reader window I have to toggle the "Reformat long lines" option in order for the whole hyperlink to be recognised as a hyperlink. Even then, it doesn't always work; I have received numerous emails where a hyperlink is recognised and highlighted (up until the end of the reformatted line) in Pegasus but, when I toggle the "Reformat long lines" option, the hyperlink is no longer highlighted and clickabe.

Anyway, the second issue is off topic here (I'll search for it elsewhere) but the first issue is a nuisance that could be avoided if Postel's Law was followed in Pegasus.

Thanks for your time.

John

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jstifel posted Oct 3 '09 at 6:13 pm

I joined the forum for an answer to this specific question.  Unfortunately, either this option was not included in Versions 4.41 and 4.51 or I am just not able to locate any such check box.

Please, if you will be so kind, could you direct me to a solution to this problem.

Thank you.

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