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IERenderer Rejects Links

[quote user="MajorAlex"]And the fact remains that when IER is not running, the link does work in Chrome. Am I still missing something here? And it seems I am the sole complainer about those redirects. [/quote]

I can't tell without having the orignal unprocessed HTML available. From the URL I can only tell that it contains blanks encoded as %20 which is most likely to cause issues. But without the actual message I can't tell whether there's something going wrong or not. If you don't mind further investigation you may forward this message to <beta-reports [@] pmail.gen.nz> without any editing or processing, the preferred way being as an attachment to another message, preferably with a subject line pointing to this forum thread so I can tell it apart from all the spam being sent to this account. If you need further assistance with forwarding please let me know. Don't post it here and don't forward to my account because it might get bocked by my ISP.

&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;MajorAlex&quot;]&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;And the fact remains that when IER is not running, the link does work in Chrome. Am I still missing something here? And it seems I am the sole complainer about those redirects.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t tell without having the orignal unprocessed HTML available. From the URL I can only tell that it contains blanks encoded as %20 which is most likely to cause issues. But without the actual message I can&#039;t tell whether there&#039;s something going wrong or not. If you don&#039;t mind further investigation you may forward this message to &amp;lt;beta-reports [@] pmail.gen.nz&amp;gt; without any editing or processing, the preferred way being as an attachment to another message, preferably with a subject line pointing to this forum thread so I can tell it apart from all the spam being sent to this account. If you need further assistance with forwarding please let me know. Don&#039;t post it here and don&#039;t forward to my account because it might get bocked by my ISP. &lt;/p&gt;

			Michael

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I've always used IERenderer, though I'll confess to not understanding why it remains an adjunct to Peg rather than an integral part. I'm accustomed to it popping up a warning asking whether I want to continue downloading graphics containing tracking code. I know in some cases I can opt to load the message into a browser. I frequently get traffic that includes tracking, e.g., Washpo and NYT articles with advertising, and I usually allow the downloads without incident.

But my own organization has now opted to use AWS and a CRM called Your Membership, and its bulk mailing feature employs tracking that IERenderer simply refuses to allow. I am concerned that our members are being subjected to harvesting of their personal data in return for just for our ability to track their click-throughs. Am I being too alarmist? I'm being accused of using an archaic mail client that just isn't up to snuff.

Here is an example of a tracked link that my Peg simply won't allow. Can you tell from the added code what it's doing?

http://458rl1jp.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/http://caves.org/committee/pr/releases/OFFICIAL-NSS%20Press%20Release-2020%20Convention%20Cancelled.pdf/1/010001718e736802-d8b93e58-ae1c-4575-9c73-4e7045bf2faf-000000/D0j4PIHy4yT12uH-Tlj2a1FRnQE=158

TIA,
Alex
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve always used IERenderer, though I&#039;ll confess to not understanding why it remains an adjunct to Peg rather than an integral part. I&#039;m accustomed to it popping up a warning asking whether I want to continue downloading graphics containing tracking code. I know in some cases I can opt to load the message into a browser. I frequently get traffic that includes tracking, e.g., Washpo and NYT articles with advertising, and I usually allow the downloads without incident.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;But my own organization has now opted to use AWS and a CRM called Your Membership, and its bulk mailing feature employs tracking that IERenderer simply refuses to allow. I am concerned that our members are being subjected to harvesting of their personal data in return for just for our ability to track their click-throughs. Am I being too alarmist? I&#039;m being accused of using an archaic mail client that just isn&#039;t up to snuff.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;Here is an example of a tracked link that my Peg simply won&#039;t allow. Can you tell from the added code what it&#039;s doing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Courier&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;http://458rl1jp.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/http://caves.org/committee/pr/releases/OFFICIAL-NSS%20Press%20Release-2020%20Convention%20Cancelled.pdf/1/010001718e736802-d8b93e58-ae1c-4575-9c73-4e7045bf2faf-000000/D0j4PIHy4yT12uH-Tlj2a1FRnQE=158&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;TIA,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;Alex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Microsoft Edge browser  just reports the Url has an unfixable error.

Martin 

&lt;p&gt;Microsoft Edge browser&amp;nbsp; just reports the Url has an unfixable error.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Martin&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

[quote user="MajorAlex"]http://458rl1jp.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/http://caves.org/committee/pr/releases/OFFICIAL-NSS%20Press%20Release-2020%20Convention%20Cancelled.pdf/1/010001718e736802-d8b93e58-ae1c-4575-9c73-4e7045bf2faf-000000/D0j4PIHy4yT12uH-Tlj2a1FRnQE=158[/quote]

OK, firstly it's a redirection which you may allow by enabling the respective IER option in its configuration dialog accessible via its toolbar button. Secondly Firefox e.g. reports a 404 error (page doesn't exist) after trying to load the target page. Thirdly, whoever accuses you of "using an archaic mail client" should read the European General Data Protection Regulation. Here comes just a very short part which might be applicable to this situation (according to Wikipedia):

No personal data may be processed unless this processing is done under one of six lawful bases specified by the regulation (consent, contract, public task, vital interest, legitimate interest or legal

requirement). When the processing is based on consent the data subject

has the right to revoke it at any time.

Data controllers must clearly disclose any data collection,

declare the lawful basis and purpose for data processing, and state how

long data is being retained and if it is being shared with any third

parties or outside of the EEA. Data subjects have the right to request a

portable copy of the data collected by a controller in a common format, and the

right to have their data erased under certain circumstances.

Maybe they'll change their considerations after doing so?

NB: There's a Firefox add-on which removes this kind of redirections so you might feel better if using it, it's called Skip Redirect. It's available for Chrome as well.

&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&quot;MajorAlex&quot;]&lt;font face=&quot;Courier&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;http://458rl1jp.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/http://caves.org/committee/pr/releases/OFFICIAL-NSS%20Press%20Release-2020%20Convention%20Cancelled.pdf/1/010001718e736802-d8b93e58-ae1c-4575-9c73-4e7045bf2faf-000000/D0j4PIHy4yT12uH-Tlj2a1FRnQE=158&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;OK, firstly it&#039;s a redirection which you may allow by enabling the respective IER option in its configuration dialog accessible via its toolbar button. Secondly Firefox e.g. reports a 404 error (page doesn&#039;t exist) after trying to load the target page. Thirdly, whoever accuses you of &quot;using an archaic mail client&quot; should read the &lt;i&gt;European General Data Protection Regulation&lt;/i&gt;. Here comes just a very short part which might be applicable to this situation (according to &lt;a mce_href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt; No personal data may be processed unless this processing is done under one of six lawful bases specified by the regulation (consent, contract, public task, vital interest, legitimate interest or legal requirement). When the processing is based on consent the data subject has the right to revoke it at any time. Data controllers must clearly disclose any data collection, declare the lawful basis and purpose for data processing, and state how long data is being retained and if it is being shared with any third parties or outside of the EEA. Data subjects have the right to request a portable copy of the data collected by a controller in a common format, and the right to have their data erased under certain circumstances.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;Maybe they&#039;ll change their considerations after doing so?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;NB: There&#039;s a Firefox add-on which removes this kind of redirections so you might feel better if using it, it&#039;s called &lt;a mce_href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/skip-redirect/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/skip-redirect/&quot;&gt;Skip Redirect&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s &lt;a mce_href=&quot;https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skip-redirect/jaoafjdoijdconemdmodhbfpianehlon&quot; href=&quot;https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skip-redirect/jaoafjdoijdconemdmodhbfpianehlon&quot;&gt;available for Chrome&lt;/a&gt; as well. &lt;/p&gt;

			Michael

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Thanks, idw! Sorry for the delay in getting back here.

First, I know it's a redirection, and the honest intent is simply to collect click-thrus, which I have no problem with. But I don't trust AWS to not have its own monitizing interest in collecting user data. Click-thrus can be counted in the server stats, without allowing third-party gleaning. Second, I found that Redirection was checked in my IER config, and I had somehow not connected that. But whether it's checked or not, those AWS links are returned as 404s in both Chrome and Firefox. I appreciate the Skip Redirect add-on, and have added it to both Chrome and FF, but on or off, it seems to have no effect. But I've had no luck in configuring either to whitelist the link in question. And the fact remains that when IER is not running, the link does work in Chrome. Am I still missing something here? And it seems I am the sole complainer about those redirects. 

&lt;p&gt;Thanks, idw! Sorry for the delay in getting back here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;First, I know it&#039;s a redirection, and the honest intent is simply to collect click-thrus, which I have no problem with. But I don&#039;t trust AWS to not have its own monitizing interest in collecting user data. Click-thrus can be counted in the server stats, without allowing third-party gleaning. Second, I found that Redirection was checked in my IER config, and I had somehow not connected that. But whether it&#039;s checked or not, those AWS links are returned as 404s in both Chrome and Firefox. I appreciate the Skip Redirect add-on, and have added it to both Chrome and FF, but on or off, it seems to have no effect. But I&#039;ve had no luck in configuring either to whitelist the link in question.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;And the fact remains that when IER is not running, the link does work in Chrome. Am I still missing something here? And it seems I am the sole complainer about those redirects.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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