[quote user="TomC"]Thanks, folks! Apparently Bob's not my uncle since I no longer use XP, but installing and registering mapipm.dll did the trick.  I thought that was already done automatically in WinPMail 4.52, but I guess not.  As always, thanks for your help!
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MAPIPM isn't part of the installer yet, but it's very likely to change with the next release, only SetPMDefault is prepared to deal with it already.

The + and - operators have special meaning, so what you tried to accomplish won't work.

You could "abuse" the Content Control for your use. So you add a new content control definition and set a negative weight (e.g. -999) if one of your tests triggers. Then you can use a normal filter rule which triggers the header entry (X-MySpecialTrigger: 1) and then do what yo want to do with those special messages. Sounds weird but the benefit of the content control is that you can trigger on multiple header entries "IF SUBJECT CONTAINS ..." etc.

BTW, you should never try to directly edit the rule file, better use the filter rule editor for this.

Sven

[quote user="Sharkfin"]

OMG! OMG! Version 5 is out!!!!!!   :O    :P

Hold your horses. Give David a chance, huh?  :)

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Oeps... Mind and fingers out of gear... At least, I've pointed to the correct download...

"Salvage files" using Client/32?  That should get back the deleted files, providing the volume isn't overfull.

 

Tom

"Salvage files" using Client/32?  That should get back the deleted files, providing the volume isn't overfull.

 

Tom

The first thing didn't work, but the second thing did thank heavens.  Who'da thunk it would be so easy.

 Thanks and hugs Thomas

 

 

Ok.  Sounds like I need to move Pegasus out of C:\Program Files

 Oh, wait.  Pegasus is installed in C:\PMAIL

When I installed the 4.52 upgrade, Windows 7 said something about the program not being installed correctly and would I like to "fix" it?  I said yes, and it appeared the program update ran through all the motions again.

 

FWIW, F-Prot A/V didn't detect any problems with 4.52 here.

Nor did  checking with all sorts of anti-virus software.

 

[quote user="Sharkfin"]

Can you confirm whether the filters for your new mail folder (which were on-open but are now on-close) are in a general rule set that is applied to the new mail folder via the right-click option? Do you have anything in the standard New Mail Filtering rules?

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No, I use "New mail filtering rules", not general rules. 

[quote user="Sharkfin"] 

My standard New Mail filter rules DO move mail to other folders without me opening the New Mail folder, so I'm confused about why that isn't working. What you say about the notification window and having to click on the new mail folder to "refresh" the view DOES match my experience (at least as far as I can remember - almost all of my mail is now filtered to other folders).

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Hmmm. For me, the "moving" happens after the "refreshing". That why I have switched to On-Close rules — in order not to jump around in pursuit of new mail (click on the New Mail folder causing new messages to appear and get filtered, then clicking on the folder to which they were moved)... 

[quote user="Sharkfin"] 

As to your last question - about IMAP filtering - the issue you describe seems accurate. I find that the IMAP functionality of Pegasus, whilst perfectly usable, feels quite 'bolted-on' and things are not as integrated as one might expect. Well, they certainly don't FEEL properly integrated, anyway.

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Yes, I too find it usable, and, if fact, am using it. But I would like the interface to get more convenient.

I am open to new concepts of UI, but these issues seem to me plain drawbacks, and correctable ones too.

Anton 

It seems to me that you should have some rows of Functions above each of your open windows, such as New, Reply, Forward, Delete: that sort of thing.

Why do you not check your Options, (Top Row, Tools > Options, which you can also access with Alt-F10)

Go down to User Interface, and if necessary click on the little ' + " box to see the choices there.  I have "A fixed toolbar under the menu" and "Standard" in the drop-down box under "Main window toolbar style".

Wiith these, I have all the mouse choices I could desire ...

Although for Delete, I usually have the item(s) highlighted, and hit either the Delete key or just D instead of running around with the mouse. But Green Trashcans work well, too! 

That solved it. Thanks!

I don't mind the compressing at all, I just wish it would not do it

every time I move a message, and more importantly: can I somehow push

that message to the background so I can keep it out of sight?

 The compressing of a folder is a critical task and if something happens in the process then it's easy to lose a whole mail folder.  That's why the process is a foreground process.  You really should not be doing anything else until this process is finished.

 

You can though make this a manual operation or increase the total size that triggers the compression using Tools | Options | Advanced Settings | Deleted space recovery 

When you delete a message, Pegasus Mail does not actually remove the message's data from the folder - instead, it simply marks the message as "deleted", and adds the size of the message data to an internal counter. Whenever the folder is closed, Pegasus Mail checks the internal counter to see if it exceeds a particular size, and if it does, it recovers the space occupied by all the deleted messages in the folder. If the folder is very large, or if you delete information from it frequently, this process of compression may become annoying or may take too long. Changing the value of this control allows you to tune the point at which Pegasus Mail will perform the deleted space recovery operation - setting a large number will make the operation happen less frequently, at the cost of having some of your disk space occupied by "dead" data. Setting this field to 0 turns off deleted space recovery - deleted data will never be removed from the folder, and it will therefore continue to get larger and larger over time. You can manually compress the folder via the right click though.
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I had understood this from Jerry's reply )

And if Jerry's reply was there I would not have answered. ;-)  For some reason the posting of my response was delayed for quite some time.  

 

 

Hi and thanks for pointing, of course!
Did try this UTF-8, but resending bring back not readable letter, even it was now saved into sent folder OK. Then tried KOI8-R and ... seems to this did the trick, also resending did work out well, it come back in readable form! =)
More thanks, Alar.

When you send to Bcc: addresses you create two separate messages.  One goes to the To: and Cc: addresses, one goes to the Bcc: addresses only.  You are sending to the SMTP mail addresses using a RCPT TO: SMTP address.  You need to run session logging to see exactly what you are sending to the SMTP host.  Here's a sample of a session log.  Note the e-mail addresses in the body of the message sent after the DATA line has nothing to do with the actual SMTP addresses in the MAIL FROM: and RCPT TO: lines.

--- Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:04:12 ---
Connect to 'scruznet.com', timeout 90.
15:04:13 >> 220 scruz.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/1.34 ready at Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT)\0D\0A
15:04:13 << HELO thomas.lmms.lmco.com\0D\0A
15:04:13 >> 250 scruz.net Hello stephens.sj.scruznet.com [165.227.102.91], pleased to meet you\0D\0A
15:04:13 << MAIL FROM:<stephens@scruznet.com>\0D\0A
15:04:14 >> 250 <stephens@scruznet.com>... Sender ok\0D\0A
15:04:14 << RCPT TO:<stephens@scruznet.com>\0D\0A
15:04:14 >> 250 <stephens@scruznet.com>... Recipient ok\0D\0A
15:04:14 << DATA\0D\0A
15:04:14 >> 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself\0D\0A
15:04:14 << From: "Thomas Stephenson" <support@tstephenson.com>\0D\0A
15:04:14 << To: test@tstephenson.com\0D\0A
15:04:14 << Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:04:12 -0700\0D\0A
15:04:14 << MIME-Version: 1.0\0D\0A
15:04:14 << Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII\0D\0A
15:04:14 << Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT\0D\0A
15:04:14 << Subject: test\0D\0A
15:04:14 << Priority: normal\0D\0A
15:04:14 << X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b)\0D\0A
15:04:14 << \0D\0A
15:04:14 << test message body\0D\0A
15:04:14 << \0D\0A
15:04:14 << .\0D\0A
15:04:15 >> 250 PAA08117 Message accepted for delivery\0D\0A
15:04:15 << QUIT\0D\0A
15:04:15 >> 221 scruz.net closing connection\0D\0A
--- Connection closed normally at Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:04:15. ---

> I am using PM in conjunction with NOD32 from ESET. This is a malware sensing program that examines incoming emails before they can cause
> trouble. When the incoming message contains an attachment, you can see a small progress indicator on the lower right corner of the screen as
> it does its work. Problem: when the attachment gets up around 1mb, PM suddenly stops and displays a screen indicating loss of communication
> with the host. There is no recovery. The error message screen goes away in 20 seconds and downloading of emails from the host ceases.
> Messages already  downloaded appear in the InBox. The only way to get around it is to go to the ISP's website and delete the big email. Is
> there some timing parameter I need to set someplace? Help !

Pegasus Mail does have a timeout setting in the POP3 setup.  This should be set to at least 120 seconds and I recommend that you use 300 seconds.  This may fix the problem.

That said, I doubt it.  I suspect that the real problem is that the NOD32 proxy setting between Pegasus Mail and the server is causing the problem.  Have you tried turning it off to see what happens?  If it works fine with the proxy turn off then you're going to have to figure out how to fix the NOD32 proxy.

Personally I would use Virscan instead of the proxy to protect the system.

Name of Program: VIRSCAN: Virus Scanning Extension for Pegasus Mail

Location/Filename <URL:mailto:irelam@telus.net?Subject=send_virscan>
<URL:http://www3.telus.net/public/irelam/>

Author/email contact: Martin Ireland <irelam@telus.net>

Status: Freeware

Documentation: Included in zip file.

Features: Extension to invoke virus scanning program of user choice when Pegasus Mail saves or views mail message attachments.

Defaults to NAI's VirusScan engine. Multi-language support included.  

[quote user="Rafifi"]

On a new email I can see a To box and a cc box but not a from box,  I will have multiple email addresses on this machine so need to be able to send from any of them

Can a BCC (blind copy box) be added as well as a CC box

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That you can do by creating multiple identities. For your convenience, you may want to check Add 'Identity' selector in Tools | Options | Messages and replies. Check out this forum for some helpful explanations regarding the concepts of identity and user by Sharkfin and others.

If you're going to use distribution lists, it is very easy to suppress the recipients' email addresses. Just read the instructions given in the Distribution lists section under List addressing settings.
In the case of individual messages, when you open the message editor, you will see a tab called 'Special'. There you can enter Bcc addresses. There has also been an elaborate discussion on this forum about the concept of Bcc. Suffice it to say for now that, for your purposes, I think you may want to activate Suppress Bcc field listings in outgoing mail in to Tools | Options | Outgoing mail.

Cheers!
Steffan

[quote user="paul.wolstenholme"]

Steffan - I do think that this is unexpected behaviour.  When a message is moved from the new mail folder to any other folder I do expect attributes, such as colour, to be moved with the message.  This is the case when the actions are performed without automating the actions with a filter. 

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Paul, I stand corrected. I tried to reproduce this and it works as you say, which is unexpected indeed. I can add, btw, that if I manually move a message that has had its colour changed by a filter rule, the message also loses its colour. If I perform all actions manually, it works as it  should. Sorry I couldn't help.

Cheers!
Steffan

A thousand thanks for this simple but elusive fix!!  I had just done the same silly thing -- deleted the Deleted folder instead of selecting the 8000 messages in it and deleting them. And PM was not recreating the Deleted folder. 

Using the Notepad editor to delete the single line gave me back my Deleted Messages folder up at the top of the list, with 7974 messages in it.  If only there were a way other than remembering to prohibit deleting the actual folder....

 

Phons van Oploo. That solved it. I was lucky there was only one .cnm file. For information it was located in the 'Admin' folder. I couldn't find a 'New mail' folder.

Many thanks.