Pegasus Mail Suggestions

If you have suggestions or special wishes for Pegasus Mail here is where you make your voice heard.

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Michael posted Jan 3 '09 at 1:14 pm

[quote user="davereid"]
Currently you can easily encrypt a message - as long as you have exchanged the key with the recipient.
Public Key systems overcome this, but they are so hard to use, you need to be a expert just to create your public and private keys !

[/quote]

S/MIME kind of does it this way: It (by default) includes the public key (as part of the "certifcate" = signature) so send a signed message to someone whom you'd want to encrypt emails to you. If you're interested watch the forum: Although I don't like the upside-down concept of S/MIME & certificates too much it's like with all "standards" pushed by M$: We have to support them at least in some basic way ...

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arnaudherve posted Oct 18 '08 at 6:48 pm

Yes, such politeness phrases are very important. In many commercial circumstances I add a few words that are not strictly necessary, just in order to avoid giving the impression that I'm being too casual.

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scwallac posted Oct 17 '08 at 10:48 pm

In the US at least, Fax sometimes has trouble co-existing with DSL.  Furthermore, Fax is extremely unreliable when using VOIP (IP phones, Vonage, etc..).

I became very frustrated with having a fax machine in my office, and switched over to MyFax.com.  For $10/month you e-mail your file to MyFax.com and they will automatically send the fax on your behalf.  There are lots of other services that do the same thing.  $10/mo might sound expensive, but in reality, it probably saves money compared to buying toner for your fax machine and dealing with all of the DSL/Fax compatibility hassles.  (You still need a good scanner attached to your PC obviously).

 

 

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arnaudherve posted Oct 20 '08 at 10:40 pm

Maybe it would also be useful to add two rules actions:

  • Open the message
  • Open the message's folder

I'm imagining that using floating windows, and in the case of very important messages, which I will have to open immediately anyway.
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arnaudherve posted Oct 23 '08 at 9:17 pm

I don't understand what is the meaning of Options -> Incoming Mail -> Preview mode settings -> Apply filtering rules when previewing folders.

 

First, I don't understand the difference between open and preview in this case. When I click on a container and I see the list of contents, I call that an opened folder. I call preview the thumbnail of a pdf in a folder, or the print view in MS Word.

 

Second, I don't understand why an option concerning filters is there and not in Filters.

 

Third, I don't understand how it coordinates with the "when folder is opened" parameter of filters. I'm imagining several solutions, but it seems to me so complex and of such a rare use that I doubt what it is.

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arnaudherve posted Oct 24 '08 at 12:19 pm

I have been looking at Options -> User interface and, realizing that all contents could be better placed in the other categories, I found that User interface makes no sense.

 

  • List displays could move to Incoming mail, and mix with Folder behaviours -> Folders colouring and Folder behaviours -> Grouped view in a new Incoming mail -> Folder colours sub-category
  • Toolbars could simply move to Basic settings
  • Reporting could move to Incoming mail and become a sub-category of its own
  • Logging could move to General settings -> Advanced in a tab
  • Automatic formatting could simply move to Outgoing mail

 

This way, you would have a very clear, very understandable tryptic composed of General settings, Outgoing mail and Incoming mail.

 

And everything that is presently in User interface would even be more logically placed, and more findable.

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Phil posted Oct 8 '08 at 10:20 pm

If you don't like/use the extension (telephone message) you can disable it (just rename the .fff), about the toolbar: if you want another one you can do it, just read the bpanel.txt file in the resource sub directory.

HTH

 

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arnaudherve posted Oct 8 '08 at 9:44 am

You surprise me. I use right-click for contextual action on the specific object I right-clicked. For a Select All I use ctrl + A, or a menu button.

 

For me, right-click is already a selection, already a pointing at, which is contradictory with Select All.

 

Even in MS Windows' desktop, it would surprise me to see a Select All Icons option when I right-click on a specific icon.

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arnaudherve posted Oct 8 '08 at 9:28 am

Your suggestion seems better than mine.

 

Personally I don't work with business cards in the same sense that I work with documents, and I don't consider an html version an attachment in a work context. So I was just imagining the visual comfort of this:

 

 

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arnaudherve posted Oct 7 '08 at 12:06 pm

Thank you Phons.

This is a very logical and structured feature. However, it seems to me people will use it only in exceptional circumstances.

Compared to the flexibility of a Send to several CC, you would need a process in which it is absolutely compulsory that everybody replies in that precise order... You should also be certain that no recipient will block the process by not opening his mailbox in due time, or not reading that message in due time...

Maybe in some legal approval processes, like a list of "Read and Approved". Or some hierarchical back-office decision process, the message then becoming a sort of mini-wiki...

And you would also need a situation when all users, without any exception, understand that they are handling a circulation message...

Worth keeping, anyway. But, due to its extremely rare use, shouldn't it be in the Special tab, instead of the top bar menu when you decide to start a new message? It seems to me a "Send attachment", that would lead to a new message but chosing the attachment first, would be at least a hundred times more used than "Send a circulation message".

Or, better, shouldn't it become some choice to make when you add recipients?

 

EDIT: By the way, I think that, compared to the benefit of starting a message immediately when clicking on New Message, all the items of that sub-menu in File -> New Message could be moved to later stages.

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Greenman posted Oct 3 '08 at 2:11 pm

Would it be possible to configure Pegasus Mail to exclude headers from a search?

i.e. to search the body only?

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arnaudherve posted Jan 1 '09 at 11:21 pm

This is the list of my suggestions for TOOLS -> OPTIONS. I think this part is more of a mess than the rest of the menu, and deserves special attention. It is clearly a heap of accumulations of new features over the time, and now deserves a serious synthetic overhaul.

In this list I have left aside all suggestions of addition or deletion. It is only a matter of rearranging what is already there. You will see that in the end GENERAL SETTINGS -> BASIC SETTINGS is almost empty. This is not a problem, because what I suggest here is by no means a complete solution. It is just a first step necessary to begin seeing what is where.

You will see too that USER INTERFACE has been dispatched between OUTGOING and INCOMING MAIL. I find it more elegant and functional.

I have also voluntarily left out the problem of TOOLS -> INTERNET OPTIONS, which make the menu even more confusing, but which brings the question of how to manage users and accounts, and hence deserves another discussion.

Finally, Happy New Year to you all.



***GENERAL SETTINGS***

HELP TEXT

  • Move text to general Help, provide only circumstancial buttons to Help, and display basic settings at once.

BASIC SETTINGS

  • Move Personal Name to a new IDENTITIES page in OUTGOING MAIL
  • Move Automatically open to FOLDERS BEHAVIOUR in INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Preserve Deleted Messages to a new DELETED MESSAGES page in INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Ask For Confirmation to a new DELETED MESSAGES page in INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Ask for Netware to a new Netware page
  • Move Save Desktop State to Displays in INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Use System Colors to Displays in INCOMING MAIL
  • Rename Name For Default Folder into Name for Main Folder
  • Move Name For Default Folder to INCOMING MAIL

ADVANCED SETTINGS

  • Move Refresh New Mail to INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Lines to scan to INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Organization String to a new IDENTITIES page in OUTGOING MAIL
  • Move SMTP Time Zone to OUTGOING MAIL
  • Move MIME character a new ADVANCED page in OUTGOING MAIL
  • Move Accept Requests to INCOMING MAIL
  • Move Deleted Messages to a new DELETED MESSAGES page in INCOMING MAIL
  • Select Allow Multiple File as default
  • Move Allow Multiple File to OUTGOING MAIL
  • Move Recovery Of Deleted Space to a new DELETED MESSAGES page in INCOMING MAIL

MAILBOX LOCATION

  • Move Mailbox Location field to a new LOCATION page



***OUTGOING MAIL***

HELP TEXT

  • Move text to general Help, provide only circumstancial buttons to Help, and display basic settings at once.

MESSAGES AND REPLIES

  • Divide into one page for BASIC SETTINGS and one new page for REPLIES
  • Move Add Identity to a new IDENTITIES page
  • Move MIME to a new ADVANCED page
  • Select Copy To Self as default
  • Move Copy To Self to COPY TO SELF
  • Move Rich Text to MESSAGE FORMATTING
  • Move Generate Transcript to a new ADVANCED page

MESSAGE FORMATTING

  • Move Check Spelling to a new SPELLCHECKING page
  • Move Overlooked Attachments to a new ATTACHMENTS page

SENDING MAIL

  • Rename into ADVANCED
  • Move Default Reply To to a new IDENTITIES page
  • Move Permanent BCC to a new IDENTITIES page
  • Move Attachments Information to a new ATTACHMENTS page



***INCOMING MAIL***

HELP TEXT

  • Move text to general Help, provide only circumstancial buttons to Help, and display basic settings at once.

FOLDERS BEHAVIOUR

  • Rename Folders Behaviour to FOLDERS DISPLAY

HYPERLINKS

  • Move Hyperlinks to MESSAGE READER
  • Move Default System Mail Program to GENERAL SETTINGS -> BASIC SETTINGS



***USER INTERFACE***

HELP TEXT

  • Move text to general Help, provide only circumstancial buttons to Help, and display basic settings at once.

LIST DISPLAY

  • Move List Display to INCOMING MAIL

TOOLBARS

  • Move Toolbars to GENERAL SETTINGS

REPORTING/LOGGING

  • Move New Mail Reporting in a new REPORTING page in INCOMING MAIL
  • Move System Messages in ADVANCED in GENERAL SETTINGS

AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

  • Move Automatic formatting to OUTGOING MAIL


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Barius posted Oct 6 '08 at 8:41 pm

Just to further elaborate on that...

If you used a OSI-approved licensed program it would be impossible to link it to your own code without also open sourcing your code.  Using it externally would be acceptable (e.g. calling it via exec() or via the command line), but because you would be distributing it with your program you would be required to provide the source code for the zip program at users' request.  Linking to the authors site would not satisfy this requirement, you would need to provide a link to download the source from your own server.  I doubt this would be a big problem though, most zip programs are quite small and I doubt many people would be interested in downloading it from David's servers anyways.

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arnaudherve posted Oct 15 '08 at 11:33 am

Of course, in the case of folders for mailing lists, a scrolling list to chose a View by thread would be very handy.

 

Just a detail here: In some mailing lists I am the only one to add a Re: before [NameOfList] when the Re: is already set after [NameOfLIst]. I would like Pegasus to detect that automatically and not be a nuisance for threads sorting. Of course when the Re: is already set by the server before [NameOfList], there is no problem.

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arnaudherve posted Oct 2 '08 at 2:21 am

[quote user="Sharkfin"] his time is severely limited.[/quote]

 

Yes. I can understand that. So once again I apologize for posting so many suggestions.

 

I do that ignoring any kind of effort, time and even coding limitations, because I think it is the right method to expose concepts first, and estimate application after that. I learned that from databases courses.

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Sharkfin posted Oct 3 '08 at 12:58 am

I have never known about this feature. Arnaud is right - it's awesome. I wish it was documented somewhere. If it's so hard to miss then it might certainly be worth adding to the right-click menu.

I wonder how many other undocumented tricks there are that I've never found just because I use the program in a very straightforward, "proper" way?

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