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Brian Fluet posted Apr 16 '20 at 12:02 am

[quote user="PaulW"]You can also use the group address format

List description:;

This a list description followed by a colon, and an empty list terminated by a semi-colon.

(See rfc 2822 and subsequent) [/quote]

This just worked for me using a three recipient test dlist.

Thanks Paul!

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Not sure if this is relevant, but I had a very similar problem with AT&T, who, IIRC, was using Yahoo SMTP servers. This had worked okay for years, but then suddenly I was having to send and resend messages multiple times until they would actually go thru. This was a huge pain. At that time, I suspected that AT&T or Yahoo had cut back on their SMTP servers since most people were now doing webmail. That meant that I was now finding their reduced number of SMTP servers busy, and there was no chance that I was going to get AT&T/Yahoo to backtrack on their reduction.

My solution was to find an alternate SMTP server. There are places out there that offer this as a service. I looked around and found authsmtp.com. I have been using it for several years and it has worked flawlessly. I use their minimal subscription which I believe covers up to 1000 outgoing emails a month for a cost of US$32 per year. I believe I can register up to 10 sender email addresses within this plan.They want you to pay by the year, but they allow you to cancel and back out in the first month if you're not satisfied.

They also seem to take spam very seriously, so I don't think I'm supporting a spam farm.

Since my POP server is also not AT&T or Yahoo, this now means that I'm not tied to them in any way, so I'm free to change ISPs without fear of having to change email addresses or anything else. I've used this while traveling around the US, no problems. I assume it would work equally well, anywhere in the world that had good internet access.

I have no connection to authsmtp other than as a satisfied customer.

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irelam posted Apr 7 '20 at 2:12 am

The thread is in Site Feedback.  I moderated the set of messages he send into the Moderated Messages folder.  I wrote back to him and got a reply.  I also requested David H or Peter S delete the user id. I don't know how he got an Id.

Martin 

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irelam posted Apr 2 '20 at 2:47 am

I normally agree, but as both a moderator and contributor, that can be involved with both public and private messaging, I am willing to take the risk.  I have some heavy spam protection and filtering code.

I will delete my posting after a few weeks, so it is not available .

Thanks for the feedback

Martin

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Brian Fluet posted Apr 4 '20 at 3:55 am

[quote user="rgakins"]Sorry -- I meant vs. 4.73.[/quote]

Yes, 4.73 is the latest version.  You will then want to update one or both of the HTML renderers, IERenderer and Bearhtml. 

IERenderer is here:  http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/community_add-ons_for_pegasus_mail/entry24145.aspx

Martin posted the url to Bearhtml earlier in this discussion.

FWIW, a couple of valuable pieces of information for us to begin helping troubleshoot your double-click problem is knowing which HTML renderer you are using and how Pegasus Mail is configured to invoke the brower.  The configuration setting is in Tools > Options > Incoming mail > Hyperlinks.  Start a new discussion if you need more info about the renderers or if you need help determining which one you are currently using.

 

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Brian Fluet posted Mar 30 '20 at 2:30 am

[quote user="caisson"]In answer to the original question Pmail certainly has the capacity to create .mbx folders as can be seen from the add folders drop down box.[/quote]

This explains how they might have been created.  Now to figure out why duplicates were created as Pegasus Mail  mailboxes.  Hierarch shows them both with the same folder name bu different internat names so I still intend to access the users mailbox and try to figure out what is showing up in the folder list.  It has become difficult with folks maintining an IMAP connection while working from home.

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euler posted Apr 3 '20 at 9:30 pm

A couple days ago I tried to install Pegasus Mail in my Linux Mint machine (under Wine). I copied my 4.73 installer package into a thumb drive I used to install it. It did very well installing Pegasus Mail to Wine's C: drive. Shortcuts were correctly created and my only intervention was to rename IERenderer.fff to IERenderer.fff_ to avoid its call. Everything worked so fine I'm astonished. In the forthcoming days I'll play with add-ons like the Hunspell dictionaries, SpamHalter, etc. I think I'm finally on my way out of Windows world.

I also had the invaluable assistance of Michael D. Setzer II, a long time Pegasus Mail on Linux user, to details I should be aware of though all went just fine all the way.

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Shades posted Mar 26 '20 at 12:56 pm

Many other may have said this already

You would need to build the folder structure in Pegasus (for your POP3 session) and use filter rules to move messages to those folders, if your rules (or defaults) don't "Delete Mail On Server Once Downloaded" your IMAP side will be synced

What you "may" miss whilst in POP3 is the Spam/Junk folder at your ISP, I have to use IMAP once in a while because Yahoo (even with filtering turned off) still send good mail to a "Bulk" folder so I need to go in and "teach" that these mails are not Spam/Junk

 

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Turns out I AM in multi-user mode and was easily able to create another user account.  I created a couple batch files I will use to start up the separate instances once I work out the details of managing and synchronizing folders as per my other inquiry.  

 

FWIW, I too am under quarantine for 14 days, but have other projects to work on, so I will put this one on hold until later. 

 

Thanks again for your help.

 

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Shades posted Mar 23 '20 at 2:16 pm

I did the same (by editing my Winrules.pmc) using the rule the OP gave, with a Return-Path address from a post in my folders,

moved to NMF,

marked unread,

when Pegasus was re-started it got coloured

 

 

 

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In Gmail setting is an option that tells Gmail what to do when messages are accessed with POP.  Here is the URL to a help page that explains where that option is:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en

Also this discusson on the Gmail help community:

https://support.google.com/mail/thread/28922658?hl=en

It doesn't appear that Gmail responds to the requests of the POP3 client but I don't know that for certain. 

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No problem occurs if I address an email to one distribution list: all the recipients listed in that distribution list will receive their copy. But if I address an email to more than one distribution list, AND if the addresses of some recipients occur in more than one list, then the email is not delivered to any of the recipients. Instead, Pegasus shows me an error message with the word "pipelining" in it, as well as listing each in that error message each of the duplicated email addresses.  Pegasus then places the email in the queue for re-sending.

To proceed I believe I have three options:

1.  Log into my ISP's webmail page, and send the email from there.  This involves copying and pasting all of the addresses in each distribution list and placing them in the BCC field on the webmail page.  This is a tedious thing to have to do, but the email is sent without any problem.

2.  Go to my laptop computer and use Thunderbird, which has a similar distribution list system to Pegasus's system, though not as good.  Moving over to that computer for the purposes of a bulk mailing is tedious, and it means that my records in Pegasus Mail are not accurate (I have to make an artificial record of the email which I have sent).  I also have to check my distribution lists inside Thunderbird to make sure they are up-to-date, as I do all of my work in Pegasus on my desktop computer.  The laptop with Thunderbird is only for rare periods away from home.

3.  Go into Pegasus Mail's distribution lists and remove some people's email addresses from some of the lists so that there is no duplication.  But this messes up the lists, because some people do qualify for membership of more than one distribution list, and it's important for me to know that, for example, Distribution list A consists of 78 people, Distribution B consists of 34 members, and so on.  And people who are duplicated in my Distribution lists do not mind receiving more than one copy of an email: they know they qualify for membership of more than one group, so receiving two or more copies of an email re-assures them that I still have them recorded as belonging to more than one classification.

This problem began for me about six months ago.  Is it because of a change in Pegasus, is it because of a change at

Yahoo, or is something else responsible?

Is there a work-around?  Is there something I can do within Pegasus so that I can maintain the integrity of my distribution lists, but not have emails rejected because some email addresses occur in more than one distribution list?

Thanks for any help.

Cat009.


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