Pegasus Mail Suggestions

If you have suggestions or special wishes for Pegasus Mail here is where you make your voice heard.

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Adrian the Rock posted Jul 15 '07 at 1:18 am

[quote user="David Harris"] Have you tried using grouped views? I'm pretty sure that the thread grouped view does what you're describing (unless I'm not understanding it properly)[/quote]

Tried this tonight, having received a relevant sequence of messages.  Leaving aside the matter that I prefer my folder lists ungrouped anyway, in fact the only additional feature I can find that makes any use of overall message dates within a thread is Group by Thread Activity, but that sorts on the date of the latest message in the thread, not the earliest.

The other difficulty I would have with groups stems from the fact that I like to have my new emails listed oldest first, and I progress downwards though the folder as I read them.  So I enable the Sort in Reverse Order toggle.  With threads, this does what I want - the threads are in thread order and the messages then in increasing date/time order - but using a grouped view this setting also reverses the order the groups are listed, which I don't really want.

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wiljon posted Jun 6 '07 at 3:36 pm

Thanls for your help . I unchecked that box and now my selected 'sig " is shown as the default . The directions are certainly not clear to me that in taking that action I would get the result I wanted . Wiljon

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Casteele posted Dec 24 '07 at 2:37 am

I definitely agree this is something worth reconsidering with how cheap gigabytes of disk space have become.

However, I do want to point out a problem with the "legal proof" comments.. They're worthless. Not only do I do security consulting on this kind of thing, but I had a similar case myself, which was promptly lost because even though I had saved a copy to self, that doesn't prove I didn't fake the copy to self, or create it but never send it, etc. What I had learned to do after that was every email I send out, I automatically Cc: (Well, Bcc: actually) a copy to another one of my email accounts I created for just this purpose. This way, I have proof that the mail got sent (it would have the mailserver's "signature" Received: header added on to prove the mail entered the network.. Failure to deliver beyond that isn't really my problem, I can at least show I DID send it on good faith), plus I get to archive the copy of it (almost) exactly as the recipient sees it, not how the copy to self gets saved (which will likely be different in any case because of the way servers add headers as it passes through the mail system, but may be compounded because PMail saves it slightly different when saved as a copy to self, as well).

Other options you should look into are using S/MIME, PGP or GPG extensions, SecureMail and other methods beyond just PMail as evidence that you really sent the mail, it really originated from you (imagine if one of your dishonest clients forged a mail to themselves pretending to be you and making false claims, statements and other bad things against you..), it wasn't tampered with, etc. Using carefully crafted mails, you can even show the recipient's mailserver received the mail. For example, adding a (B)CC to a fake username that you know will bounce.. Then you'll have a copy of the bounce/failure to deliver notice. It won't prove the recipient downloaded and read the mail, but it will prove that their mailserver had received and seen the mail to at least bounce/reject the invalid address, shifting responsibility to them and/or their providers mailserver. ("You never sent the mail!" "Yes I did, and your mailserver received it; I have the bounced portion right here to prove that it got that far. If they lost it or you never downloaded it, that's your problem..") Relying on return receipts and read mail receipts is pointless, too. Many mailservers and users disable them anyhow.

Unfortunately however, there is no way to prove they received and read it. But at least you can prove you sent it and how far it got before it got "lost", "ignored", "deleted" or whatever, which is beyond your control.

HTH, Merry Christmas!

C. M.

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arnaudherve posted Jun 27 '07 at 8:58 am

Yes I too would consider rss slightly out of the main purpose of Pegasus. In the same way I consider the newsgroups function in Thunderbird a bit quaint, and a copy from Outlook, which was already quaint enough, since it was not a plugin. For example you are proposed to create a newsgroup account each time you create a new mail account, which is always surprising.

 

A plugin is ok. 

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lar3ry posted May 9 '07 at 8:39 am

[quote user="David Harris"][quote user="lar3ry"][quote user="Arthur van Haarlem"]

UNcheck the box "Mark previewed messages as having been read"

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Unfortunately, that means that when I do click on a message and read it, it remains 'unread'. I like to see it marked read after I select it. I just don't like to have it marked read when I open the folder and the highlight happens to land on an unread message.

[/quote]

I guess the magic question there is "When does that message get marked as read, then"?

[/quote]

For me, in Preview Mode, I'm happy with anything I do after I enter the folder. Mouse click on a header, ENTER key, cursor up/down, etc. That way, I get to see that the message is unread when I arrive at the folder, and have the choice of reading it or going to another (unread or read) message.

It's good to see you responding, David. I hope it isn't going to be too demanding on your time.
 

Larry

 

 

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PiS posted May 11 '07 at 11:00 pm

David, aren't you participating in MSDN through the incentive called: Empower?, for a very reasonable fee (about 300$ annually) you get access to all msdn subscriptions including all languages of XP and Vista etc.

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Great idea!

A link on the help menu under "visit Pegasus Mail website" and "visit Pegasus Mail online knowledge base" that said "visit Pegasus Mail Forums" would be a great way to make Pegasus users aware of these forums.

Personally I've never really participated in usenet discussions and really prefer the web forum  format like this. 

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linuxrev posted Jul 30 '07 at 4:16 pm

YES!! I would really like to integrate my Palm address book with the one-to-come in Pegasus Mail v5. I'm not an Outlook fan, however, but PIM capabilities for Pegasus Mail would be great. I'm using Kontact on openSUSE now, but Evolution could be another option. And, och, why not link to Outlook too?

 

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David Harris posted May 7 '07 at 2:55 pm

This forum offers you somewhere you can suggest things you would like to see changed in, or added to, Pegasus Mail.

As with the other forums on this site, the only real rule in this forum is that you should maintain basic standards of courtesy - so, no flames, rudeness, abuse... You get the idea. Also, please keep your suggestions emotionally neutral - do not attempt to use "emotional blackmail" or other emotive overloading in your posts in the mistaken belief that this might somehow "shame" us into doing what you want. It will only make us cross and get your post deleted.

Before you post here, we strongly suggest that you search or scan through other postings to see if your suggestion has already been made. Forum moderators may delete posts that duplicate a suggestion already made elsewhere, simply to reduce the number of items in the list.

Finally, although I and my test team will regularly read this forum and will try to reply where possible, we can offer no guarantee that any posting you make will get a reply, nor that any feature you request will actually be added. That said, this forum is likely to exert a quite powerful influence on the things that get chosen for development, and the order in which they are developed. This is your forum - make sure you have your say!

Cheers!

-- David --

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