Actually that would be handy. [:D]

When I send out an eNews via Pegasus and the various servers reply with errors address no longer available etc, many servers don't put the address in the return header but in the body of the message. Its usually the ISP address. ie nomail@isp.co.nz in the headers. 

Right clicking on an email address in the body of the message does give you the option to add the address to the DList but not remove it.

The option presently available by right click an email address in the body of a message are: 

•  Start New Message...
• Copy address to Clipboard
• Add address to addressbook...
• Add address to DList...
• Show Pictures (HTML Only)

I just read your newest blog in which you lament the old address book code.  I figured that as long as you're in such a good mood, why not ask that the address books be capable of synchronizing to an LDAP server?  Alternatively, how about allowing an LDAP server to be represented as an address book (editable with the correct user rights)?

 

Just an update here: I just learnt that Google Calendar is now compatible with Webdav and Ical.

For me, a calendar application for the 2010 decade must offer at least two features:

1. Display online
2. Mobile phone sync

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see the possibility of developing that in Pmail for the moment. Not unless the development of core features more directly related to email is sacrificed. And then, there is also the risk of losing Pmail's lightweight.

In the meanwhile, there so many time-related features that would be easy to implement, like:

• Send later, chose date
• Send to myself, as a reminder

Only those two would be a significant improvement.Some competition does that.

Then, if there is possibility to do more, we can imagine for instance a calendar view of messages to be sent. That would be the beginning of a calendar, only the intention would reversed: you don't create an event with a subsidiary email, you create an email which may if you wish contain an event.

[quote user="Barius"] (e.g. NTFS) can easily handle the number of email files a user is likely to accumulate over the lifetime of their computer. 
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 I suspect I'm not the only Pegasus user for whom emails are transferred when I upgrade my PC...   Its so easy to do!

 
The only way I could see storing messages as files working would be for each folder to be a sub directory of the mail box.   I guess that would bean that all folders by default could contain both Messages and sub folders but how would I import all my email when I upgraded....
 

[quote user="Rob"][quote user="David Harris"][quote user="Dirty Harry"]1. Macros that will randomly pick a line from a .txt file and place it at the bottom of a message as a tagline.  That would be a real nice piece of fluff. [/quote]

Pegasus Mail has had variable signatures since 1991. It's slightly arcane - you have to prepare them in a specific format then compile the file using the Pegasus Mail resource compiler, rescom, but it's not that big a deal. Look up "variable signatures" in the help file.

Doing it from a plain text file would be quite a bit more complicated[/quote]

There are two extensions I know of that greatly ease the handling of custom tag lines for Pegasus Mail

• Leon Salter's Plato - http://home.zonnet.nl/l.salters/
  

• BitBuilt Software's Thalia - http://www.bitbuilt.net/thalia.html

Both are free tools that allow you to store your quotes as plain text files, then compile them into a Pegasus Mail compatible resource file by clicking a button. Plato works within Pegasus Mail as an extension, and Thalia is an external application.

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Thanks for all the suggestions Rob.  Dawn works great but I can't seem to get Plato to work.  It installed fine and the icon appears on the toolbar but it just doesn't pick the line from the file.

Also, pegasus is installed as the default mail client and it fires up just fine when clicking a mailto link but a MSIE popup keeps reporting that it's not installed properly even though it is working. 

[quote]I doubt the revenue part would lead anywhere[/quote]

 Not necessarily.  I believe that the Mozilla Corporation makes a huge chunk of its money through deals with Google making it the default search engine.
 

[quote user="Tony Crawford"]

"The 3 is silent," eh?

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I'm assuming Lar3ry's a Tom Lehrer fan (that's the first place I ever heard a name with a silent 3 in it,,, [:)] )

-- David --


 

For minimize I always use ALT Space N

No, that's not possible.

I've found there is a plugin that searches text files in general. Although it will not show Pegasus' files as e-mails (just as plain text), you can still search them. The plugin is at http://desktop.google.com/plugins/i/indexitall.html?hl=en. Read the text file carefully, because you'll have to indicate during setup which file types you'll want to include - those should be *.CNM (for your main folder) and *.PMM (for all other folders) files, if I recall correctly.

Delete or move selected messages - no warning if selection includes read-only
messages.

Delete folder - no warning that it will delete read-only messages - VERY
NAUGHTY.

Delete attachment from message in normal (not NewMail) folder - no warning that
nothing has been done.

Move mailbox contents to new location - function should be removed from Options
or re-implemented.

Count of messages in an open folder window not updated when messages are added
or removed (but Folders Manager window values are updated).

Bob

I have no idea what the income / costs would be, sincerely.

One of the reasons I am talking abound a Pegasus + Mercury bundle is for the comfort of the less skilled user. That could take the shape of an apparent Pegasus install, and the teacher would consider the install on his/her computer is the "master mail software", which is a concept fairly easy to grasp I think for that kind of user.

Of course setting the accounts just once on the "master computer" would help ease of use too, compared to writing on the server AND the client. That would be coherent too with teenagers not being allowed to modify their accounts.

The dot yo I chose is arbitrary, of course, the important thing is mail not being allowed to go to Internet. Maybe @mail.yo could be proposed as default for instance. Or anything else that makes clear it is not a common dot name. 

[quote user="Ginhead"]

 It could be a box one has to tick, like the "urgent" box. Of course, we are only two users, so it is not very large, but at least I would have tried to make you keep and improve this option.

[/quote]

thank you, I'm not alone! [;)]

[quote user="David Harris"] Have you tried using grouped views? I'm pretty sure that the thread grouped view does what you're describing (unless I'm not understanding it properly)[/quote]

Tried this tonight, having received a relevant sequence of messages.  Leaving aside the matter that I prefer my folder lists ungrouped anyway, in fact the only additional feature I can find that makes any use of overall message dates within a thread is Group by Thread Activity, but that sorts on the date of the latest message in the thread, not the earliest.

The other difficulty I would have with groups stems from the fact that I like to have my new emails listed oldest first, and I progress downwards though the folder as I read them.  So I enable the Sort in Reverse Order toggle.  With threads, this does what I want - the threads are in thread order and the messages then in increasing date/time order - but using a grouped view this setting also reverses the order the groups are listed, which I don't really want.

Thanls for your help . I unchecked that box and now my selected 'sig " is shown as the default . The directions are certainly not clear to me that in taking that action I would get the result I wanted . Wiljon

bugger... I do hope this is a feature that is added. (would make my life so much easier) [:S]  :D

I definitely agree this is something worth reconsidering with how cheap gigabytes of disk space have become.

However, I do want to point out a problem with the "legal proof" comments.. They're worthless. Not only do I do security consulting on this kind of thing, but I had a similar case myself, which was promptly lost because even though I had saved a copy to self, that doesn't prove I didn't fake the copy to self, or create it but never send it, etc. What I had learned to do after that was every email I send out, I automatically Cc: (Well, Bcc: actually) a copy to another one of my email accounts I created for just this purpose. This way, I have proof that the mail got sent (it would have the mailserver's "signature" Received: header added on to prove the mail entered the network.. Failure to deliver beyond that isn't really my problem, I can at least show I DID send it on good faith), plus I get to archive the copy of it (almost) exactly as the recipient sees it, not how the copy to self gets saved (which will likely be different in any case because of the way servers add headers as it passes through the mail system, but may be compounded because PMail saves it slightly different when saved as a copy to self, as well).

Other options you should look into are using S/MIME, PGP or GPG extensions, SecureMail and other methods beyond just PMail as evidence that you really sent the mail, it really originated from you (imagine if one of your dishonest clients forged a mail to themselves pretending to be you and making false claims, statements and other bad things against you..), it wasn't tampered with, etc. Using carefully crafted mails, you can even show the recipient's mailserver received the mail. For example, adding a (B)CC to a fake username that you know will bounce.. Then you'll have a copy of the bounce/failure to deliver notice. It won't prove the recipient downloaded and read the mail, but it will prove that their mailserver had received and seen the mail to at least bounce/reject the invalid address, shifting responsibility to them and/or their providers mailserver. ("You never sent the mail!" "Yes I did, and your mailserver received it; I have the bounced portion right here to prove that it got that far. If they lost it or you never downloaded it, that's your problem..") Relying on return receipts and read mail receipts is pointless, too. Many mailservers and users disable them anyhow.

Unfortunately however, there is no way to prove they received and read it. But at least you can prove you sent it and how far it got before it got "lost", "ignored", "deleted" or whatever, which is beyond your control.

HTH, Merry Christmas!

C. M.

Yes I too would consider rss slightly out of the main purpose of Pegasus. In the same way I consider the newsgroups function in Thunderbird a bit quaint, and a copy from Outlook, which was already quaint enough, since it was not a plugin. For example you are proposed to create a newsgroup account each time you create a new mail account, which is always surprising.

A plugin is ok. 

[quote user="David Harris"][quote user="lar3ry"][quote user="Arthur van Haarlem"]

UNcheck the box "Mark previewed messages as having been read"

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Unfortunately, that means that when I do click on a message and read it, it remains 'unread'. I like to see it marked read after I select it. I just don't like to have it marked read when I open the folder and the highlight happens to land on an unread message.

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I guess the magic question there is "When does that message get marked as read, then"?

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For me, in Preview Mode, I'm happy with anything I do after I enter the folder. Mouse click on a header, ENTER key, cursor up/down, etc. That way, I get to see that the message is unread when I arrive at the folder, and have the choice of reading it or going to another (unread or read) message.

It's good to see you responding, David. I hope it isn't going to be too demanding on your time.
 

Larry

This will probably evolve as we go along. External reviews are also interesting apart from awards etc.