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Medievalist posted Jun 27 '07 at 9:26 pm

If your email hub is sendmail and/or MailScanner (rather than Mercury) you can also make archive copies there fairly easily.

Incidentally, archiving on the email hub integrates better with backup and disaster recovery plans (especially if you are USA federally regulated by SOX, FDA, or HIPAA) than depending on individuals to maintain personal stores.  Once you are doing strong archival, if someone really needs to recover an old message they can request it be drawn from the archive copy by the email hub administrator.

Personally, I very much appreciate that Pegasus doesn't put the attachments in copies to self.  File version management simply should not be performed with an email engine, to be frank - it'd be "good enough" solution that would drive out existing optimal solutions.  Thanks, David!

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sam posted Jun 27 '07 at 3:35 am

We have been trying it out and that's why I'm asking these questions. Thanks for your help. We'll look elsewhere.

sam

 

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nodyarg posted Jul 14 '07 at 4:25 pm

Well, I think the state.pmj did the trick. I tried the hiearch and the ini to no avail but seem to have had success with the state.pmj and I couldn't find any .lck files to delete. I am still having problems in that Pmail will not play a sound when new mail arrives I have the radio box checked in the prefs and am using this command line E:\Pmail\Programs\winpm-32.exe  -Z 512 -A. Also, I am not able to use the send link by email in IE. Pmail is set for the default mailer.

Thanks for your help getting the main problem fixed.

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted Jun 24 '07 at 6:04 pm

I suspect that there is a problem with deleting the deleted messages folder on closing.  Try deleting it manually once before closing and see what happens. 

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Strat posted Jun 27 '07 at 12:32 pm

I searched for the WI_sph.ini file and had 4 of them. Each one for a different mail box. 3 of them were set to 0 and the 4th one to 1. That 4th one was not the mail box in question but, after setting it to 0 the problem seems to have corrected itself in the mail box that was having the problem. Thank you for all your help.

Strat

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Medievalist posted Jun 28 '07 at 12:25 am

Apologies if this is too far off-topic, but I've been running Pegasus Mail in "standalone mode" for hundreds of users for many years.  Works great!

I just set the location of PMAIL.INI and friends to a mapped network drive, that is individually mapped at network login time to each person's private "home" folder.

So, winpm-32.exe lives in P:/CURRENT/PMAIL, along with the various .fff files and similar customizations we have in place, and PMAIL.CFG (in the same share) tells Pegasus to find its other files in H:/PMAIL.

When I upgrade pegasus, I install the new version on the P: network share and test it for a while, figuring out the new capabilities and making sure there aren't any bugs that would impact my users, and once that's done I just move the new version to /CURRENT.

There are some additional bells and whistles - for instance, the /CURRENT directory is actually a symbolic link on the host side, so I can switch versions on the fly rather easily, and we dynamically generate registry hacks, policies, and login scripts from a perl script that runs on the server at network login time - but I think I hit the high points.

Since the location of a mail directory is a mapped drive, it's easily moved about, as long as the mapping resolves to the new location.  We're completely IMAPped now, too, so the individual PMAIL directories only hold personal settings and cache info.

Oh, and don't do this technique on a dial-up link if you are using POP or any other mail storage method that will require Pegasus to open bazillions of files on the H: share.  It will become so slow as to be unuseable with relatively few messages - this isn't really Pmail's fault, it's because SMB is a grossly inefficient protocol and Pegasus was orginally developed on the relatively snappy IPX stack.  You're still OK with IMAP though, even on a slow link.

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OK, solved it. This will (hopefully!) be my final post on the matter! Turns out I didn't have enough disk space...the spam folder was about 700MB and I had about 500MB. Freeing up a few gigs allowed the compression to complete successfully (I guess a new PMM file needs to be created before the older one is deleted, perhaps?)

 

Anyway, hope this is useful to someone. David, I don't know how feasible it is to catch the reason for compression failure but if it would be possible to display something about a lack of disk space that would be helpful (assuming that was indeed the problem).

 

Cheers! 

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BobKellock posted Jun 27 '07 at 1:13 am

There is a work-around for this.

Move all the messages in your Unix folder to an empty normal folder - that will only move messages that have not been "deleted"
Delete the Unix folder and create a new one with the same name as previously.
Move the messages back from the normal folder to the (new) Unix folder.

Bob

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mads posted Jul 15 '07 at 1:08 pm

hi

what printer are you using? this happened for us as well, when i upgraded from 4.31 to 4.41.  it has nothing to do with novell or windows server 2003. 4.31 was printing correctly, 4.41 was not - but only with brother hl 1450 printers. hp 1320 were working fine and printing from the chosen tray! we have defined a 2nd printer with the correct setting ie print from 2nd tray only as default - no success.

mario
 

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Sandal posted Jul 22 '07 at 7:09 pm

I think my post was a little bit too short: I do not use the brackets in the mail address, it is part of the name (alias) in the address book. So, if my entry is "name (Hotmail)" and "mail@hotmail.com" in the address book and I send him a mail, I get "To: Hotmail" in the From column of the sent folder. But if I open the sent mail I see a correct To line in the header "To: name (Hotmail)". All I need is to have the same display in the folder view.

One more funny thing is happening if I send mail to multiple addresses and the last one has the brackets. Again I just see what is inside the brackets, any other mail address is not displayed!

Other mail programs create a formatting like: "name (Hotmail)" <mail@hotmail.com> Maybe the quotation marks help here.

(BTW, it would be nice to see the real mail address beside the name from the address book in the sent mails To line.)

Greetings,

Stephan

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irelam posted Jun 22 '07 at 12:26 am

Please send me a complete message including all headers etc in a zip file. The symptom you report normally only occurs when the html renderer Bearhtml cannot display the formatted message, so it falls back and tries to show you the source html.  The alternative reason is that the message headers are incorrect or not conforming to specifications.

 Please mail your sample zip file to irelam@telus.net 

 

Martin 

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Shaharin posted Sep 19 '07 at 4:51 am

This update doesn't seem to work for me. I did as described above, replacing the files (but wisely renaming the old ones) and then fired up PM, and Lo!  a crash window pops up, and PM won't start.

Put back the old files and everything's hunkydory again.

Shah

FOLLOW UP

I found it it was a corrupt words4.db3 file. Once I fixed that, the update worked fine.
 

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Medievalist posted Jun 27 '07 at 9:33 pm

Just a quick caveat on all the excellent replies you've already received:

 When you share files from one computer to another, you'll be tempted to just share the entire drive (or volume, or partition, if you prefer those terms).  DON'T DO IT.

 Just share the pegasus email folder or folders.  If you share the whole drive, you increase your vulnerability to viruses and worms that use Microsoft Networking to spread.  There's no need to share the whole drive, you just need the folders that hold your messages and configuration files.
 

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LRod posted Jun 19 '07 at 10:46 pm

I don't know how this works exactly, but apparently every time I edited one of the sigs (often using cut-and-paste of existing text for consistency) it seemed to wind up in the "internet, formatted" variant, even though I selected the "internet, plain" variant. Finally, I noticed that when I changed one of the sigs from "i..,f.." to "i..,p.." mode the text disappeared. So, I tried pasting the text into both variants, and voila, I now have my sigs back.

 

This whole thing behaves very odd, however. I'm not sure I understand all that had happened. I think I might have set a parameter elsewhere which sends all my email as an "internet, plain" message. Why the sig doesn't automatically move to that complete with text is beyond me. Sure was hard to figure out, though.

Rod

 

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NTxLS posted Jul 17 '08 at 4:52 am

dilberts_left_nut,

Just wanted to pass on to you that my PassWord has been changed and is even more difficult to break-down than before.  I do appreciate your concern and warning me of this possible disaster.  I managed a small computer system on a military base with about 41 dumb terminals that was running BTOS, if you know what that is, and slowly progressed to IBM compatible desktops running Windows 3.1 to start with.  All I know about these systems has come from the School-of-HARD-Knocks and I have the lumps to prove it.

 I am very Security Conscious and claim to have Double-Noids also known as Paranoid.

Again I do thank one and all that have posted here and read my Roasted Posties, 

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lazy_leukocyte posted Jun 18 '07 at 7:36 pm

Thanks, David, for the reply, but the issue here is that PMail cuts out text regardless of the reformat/wrap settings. The first line after a long 998-character line gets cut at an apparently arbitrary position, and while the text is all there in raw mode, it will not appear at all in "normal" view mode, however I try to change settings (wrapping, font, printer driver).

To clarify my point, I reproduced the problem by sending myself an E-Mail with three lines: One of scrambled characters, 998 long, and another one consisting of "SECOND LINE", repeated many times. The third and last line just says "How does it appear".

Look:

Normal view

And here's the raw view:

Raw view

As you can see, the second line gets cut in normal view!

lazy

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