Pegasus Mail Suggestions

If you have suggestions or special wishes for Pegasus Mail here is where you make your voice heard.

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Mike posted Jun 4 '07 at 8:57 pm

[quote user="PaulW"][quote user="Mike"]I installed Thunderbird, sent a mail to myself using that control on Thunderbird's toolbar, then looked at the source.


They use align="justify"[/quote]

PM could do the same in the <div> tag that it uses.  (Personally, I think the effect is little different from left alignment to the recipient - and it is they who govern the size and proportions of the viewing area.)[/quote]

Yes, with Thunderbird, they put that on a div.

I agree that it looks similar if that's all you do. Of course, if you use a more elaborate structure with either tables or CSS--which you would do outside the mail client's own composer--you could produce designs where it did make a difference. And you could certainly come up with designs where the size of the window doesn't matter.

Here's an example:


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title></title>
</head>
<body>
<div style="text-align:center">
<div style="margin: 1em auto; width: 80%; border: 1px solid #000; padding: 2em; background-color: #ddd; text-align: justify;">
<h1>Heading</h1>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit esse molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at vero eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit praesent luptatum zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla facilisi.</p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>


Adapted from here:

http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/center/02.htm

He's using [mis-using?] text-align to align the box, but the text is left-aligned. I've made the text justified and increased the margin so that it stands out. (I put the CSS inline, because that's generally better for email clients.) That's a flexible design.
 

[quote][quote]If you don't know HTML, you can do this is a WYSIWYG tool. I'd suggest you might like to try NVU, which is free:


http://www.nvu.com/index.php

If you're really after a designed email, that would be the way to go.

[/quote]

That seems like good advice for those that want advanced HTML email. 

[/quote]

HTML email is still a bit hit-and-miss, because not everything supports everything, and webmail is another complicating factor:

http://www.anandgraves.com/html-email-guide

I still use plain text myself mostly, but I guess HTML mail is nice for people sending out newsletters and so on.
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MikePreston posted May 28 '07 at 6:42 am

I use ctl-x frequently.  Please don't eliminate it!

As far as quickly navigating to a given folder, the folder window automatically has this built in, doesn't it?  If I have 4000 folders and only one of them starts with a "z", if I type a "z" while in the folder window, the focus immediately moves to that one folder.

 
It works on multiple characters, too, so if I want to move to the "music" folder, I start typing the word "music" and the focus will be moved to the "music" folder long before I've finished the word.

 
But, while we are in the process of asking for improvements..... the folder search function seems to ignore anything other than regular characters.  Spaces, exclamation points, and other valid characters within the name of the folder don't seem to cause the focus to shift.  Of course, I could just be a few versions behind (I'm still on 3.12c), but I'd upgrade in a second if folder search allows non-regular characters. 

 

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Nighthawk posted Jun 14 '07 at 10:29 am

[quote]If I had some staff who could monitor an address like this, sifting

through and identifying the things that were actually bugs, then it

would be a starter, but my time is already too stretched to be able to

do it myself.[/quote]

I'm willing to help you here some how (where I can) if you wish...

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lsaplai posted Jun 3 '07 at 8:23 pm

[quote user="David Harris"]

1 - 4 are all already well taken care of in the new format - and much more. I really don't think you're going to be disappointed. [;)]

(5) is a good idea I hadn't thought of, but which should be easy.

Cheers!

-- David --

[/quote]

Hi David.

(5) sounds definitely like a good idea, as well as the other points brought forward by GinHead.

I have another question though: will the address book be compatible with other existing address book formats. I think that we should be able to easily import and export data in the addressbook without resorting to a 3rd party. I need to be able to move this data between Pegasus and Kmail on my Linux system as well as wemail account. I already easily do it between Kmail, Gmail and Yahoo! Mail but right now the Pegasus address book is empty as it's too cumbersome to imprt address.

Cheers!
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whiskyfizz posted May 27 '07 at 12:12 am

Hi !

But I did not know that we had this possibility of creating such shortcuts ! Amazing, Pegasus Mail is really full of nice surprises [:)]. However, from a user perspective, itis not false to say that not everyone is comfortable with the keyboard or with the shorcuts, and since the objective is to extend the user base, it seems to me that if those two columns allow such an increase, then they should taken into consideration for integration. Indeed, for the basic user, it will much simpler to click in the "Spam" column rather than set a shortcut. Now, I prefer the shortcut version, but since I suggested that those columns be optional, once the user is comfortable with Pegasus Mail and has definitely adopted it, which will be the time from which she will start to look more closely at its options, then given her taste, she will either disable or leave as it is this option. I think this suggestion will do no harm in terms of efficiency since being optional the experienced users can always turn it down, so from their point nothing is lost, however from the point of view of a new user who is trying Pegasus Mail, then it can make a difference. Now if really, these columns will make the option menu too complicated, then just add it to the distribution as a plugin-file like "Hangup.ffr", but make this file be there by default. I hope that I manage somehow to put forward that this kind of options could prove to be useful.

Bye !

Ginhead. 

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EPLevine posted Jul 19 '07 at 5:41 pm

I have been trying to do this since January and it will not work for

me either.  I figgured that click & shift would select a range

and click and CTRL would add one by one like most programs but no go.

Any Ideas??

 

 

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Barius posted May 25 '07 at 1:56 am

I tried the tests on the rulesets again and verified that you are correct.  However, the reason my previous tests were wrong is because there appears to be a 'feature' that can be both useful or confusing.  If you create a brand-new folder then open a filter and add/modify a rule in which you select a folder as the parameter, the folder selection window will open with that new folder already selected.  It appears that whatever folder you last created since opening Pegasus is automatically selected even if the rule already has a different folder selected.  Strangely, if you close Pmail and start it again, then the selection window will default to 'New Mail' instead, so this 'feature' only applies if you have created a new folder during the same session as you edit the ruleset.

When I did the tests I used the same rule twice, just modifying the 'set' parameter.  I also created the two test folders without restarting Pmail.  So, the first time I chose the first folder, then I edited the rule to change to the other folder and I assumed that the selection window had reselected the folder I had previously selected, but it was actually selecting the last folder created.  This means I was actually selecting the same folder twice, which explains why my test didn't work correctly.

After re-doing the tests correctly I can verify that the rulesets do indeed work as advertised.  However, I'd like to suggest that the selection window be made to automatically choose your previously selected folder (if it exists), and otherwise it should not default to anything.
 

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[quote user="David Harris"][quote user="Coach"]

The scan list filter option is limited to checking a list against a listed sender. 

I'd like to see it check against a receiver if that option is selected. 

[/quote]

It's a fair enough request and not at all difficult to add. Jog my memory about this once you start seeing messages here indicating that feature development has begun again (I've almost finished the accused code port and update).

Cheers!

-- David --

[/quote]

I'm not Coach but is it okay if I jog your memory about this (and that I do so at this point in time)?

Cheers :-)
Steffan

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[quote user="David Harris"][quote user="Coach"] I'd like to write or automatically generate specific e-mails to friends and family that will send out e-mail on specific days and times.  Case in point, a simple, "Happy Birthday" or "Happy Anniversary" e-mail. I believe it would require a special DB file to coordinate dates, times, names, subject line and message integration. [/quote]

This is a definite feature that will appear in the Version 5 Calendar. You will be able to have messages sent as part of any calendared event.

Cheers!

-- David --

[/quote]

Thanks for responding David,

I look forward to using this feature.

Coach 

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Han vd Bogaerde posted May 19 '07 at 2:14 pm

You can, although not from within the program. Right mouse on the folder in the folderslisting and go Folder information.You will find the file name in there.

Now close down Pegasus Mail and go to the Home mailbox directory. Copy (do not move) both the <name>.PMM and <name>.PMI file to any other place you want. Restart Pegasus Mail and delete the folder.
 

To restore, just copy both files back and restart Pegasus Mail. 

FYI:

* Problems after restoring mailbox files from CD-ROM *

Q: I backed up my Pegasus Mail mailbox directory to CD-R (or CD-RW or DVD or whatever) and restored it after a hard drive replacement (or Windows OS reinstall).  Now everything is behaving very strange.  I cannot delete new mail messages and my mail folders say they are corrupted.  Also, I can't make changes nor add addresses to any of my address books.  Additionally, changes to my WinPMail configuration settings don't get saved anymore. What's going on? 

A: When you restore files from CD-ROM-based technology, the OS usually sets read-only flag on each of the files.  Thus, WinPMail cannot make changes to the files anymore.  To fix this, select all the files in your mailbox directory and press Alt-Enter (or right- click on the files and choose Properties from the popup context menu).  Uncheck the Read-Only checkbox and click OK. 

 

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David Harris posted May 19 '07 at 2:02 am

[quote user="Glenn Keeler"]I would love it if the folder list would sort folders with unread mail to the top of the list.[/quote]

I have something like this planned - it's not quite what you're asking for - but it's probably better, in fact. I won't say any more just now, but rest assured that the issue is on the radar.

[quote]I would also like to be able to force some folders to the top of the list -- the "system" folders of new mail, copies to self, deleted have this forced sorting at the moment.[/quote]

The program has this capability already - there's just no user interface for accessing or enabling it. Once again, it's on the list of things to do.

Cheers!

-- David --

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[quote user="Elio"]

I wrote this in a previews post along with another request. The request is about supporting the /Flagged message attribute of the IMAP protocol in Pegasus.

[/quote]

Oddly enough, I thought it already did - I thought I had set it up so that "Flagged" messages showed as being coloured blue, and that setting a message to a blue colour would flag it at the IMAP level... But I must have been dreaming it, because the code is not there.

It's not a difficult request, and will definitely be on the list for the next release.

Cheers!

-- David --

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Actually that would be handy. [:D]

When I send out an eNews via Pegasus and the various servers reply with errors address no longer available etc, many servers don't put the address in the return header but in the body of the message. Its usually the ISP address. ie nomail@isp.co.nz in the headers. 

Right clicking on an email address in the body of the message does give you the option to add the address to the DList but not remove it.

The option presently available by right click an email address in the body of a message are: 

  •  Start New Message...
  • Copy address to Clipboard
  • Add address to addressbook...
  • Add address to DList...
  • Show Pictures (HTML Only)
Needs Remove address from DList



 

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Barius posted May 16 '07 at 7:53 am

I just read your newest blog in which you lament the old address book code.  I figured that as long as you're in such a good mood, why not ask that the address books be capable of synchronizing to an LDAP server?  Alternatively, how about allowing an LDAP server to be represented as an address book (editable with the correct user rights)?

 

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arnaudherve posted Dec 2 '08 at 12:36 pm

Just an update here: I just learnt that Google Calendar is now compatible with Webdav and Ical.

 

For me, a calendar application for the 2010 decade must offer at least two features:

 

  1. Display online
  2. Mobile phone sync

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see the possibility of developing that in Pmail for the moment. Not unless the development of core features more directly related to email is sacrificed. And then, there is also the risk of losing Pmail's lightweight.

 

In the meanwhile, there so many time-related features that would be easy to implement, like:

  • Send later, chose date
  • Send to myself, as a reminder

Only those two would be a significant improvement.Some competition does that.

Then, if there is possibility to do more, we can imagine for instance a calendar view of messages to be sent. That would be the beginning of a calendar, only the intention would reversed: you don't create an event with a subsidiary email, you create an email which may if you wish contain an event.

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chriscw posted Oct 11 '07 at 1:16 pm

[quote user="Barius"] (e.g. NTFS) can easily handle the number of email files a user is likely to accumulate over the lifetime of their computer. 
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 I suspect I'm not the only Pegasus user for whom emails are transferred when I upgrade my PC...   Its so easy to do!

 
The only way I could see storing messages as files working would be for each folder to be a sub directory of the mail box.   I guess that would bean that all folders by default could contain both Messages and sub folders but how would I import all my email when I upgraded....
 

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Dirty Harry posted May 18 '07 at 1:56 am

[quote user="Rob"][quote user="David Harris"][quote user="Dirty Harry"]1. Macros that will randomly pick a line from a .txt file and place it at the bottom of a message as a tagline.  That would be a real nice piece of fluff. [/quote]

Pegasus Mail has had variable signatures since 1991. It's slightly arcane - you have to prepare them in a specific format then compile the file using the Pegasus Mail resource compiler, rescom, but it's not that big a deal. Look up "variable signatures" in the help file.

Doing it from a plain text file would be quite a bit more complicated[/quote]

There are two extensions I know of that greatly ease the handling of custom tag lines for Pegasus Mail

  • Leon Salter's Plato - http://home.zonnet.nl/l.salters/

  • BitBuilt Software's Thalia - http://www.bitbuilt.net/thalia.html

Both are free tools that allow you to store your quotes as plain text files, then compile them into a Pegasus Mail compatible resource file by clicking a button. Plato works within Pegasus Mail as an extension, and Thalia is an external application.

[/quote]

Thanks for all the suggestions Rob.  Dawn works great but I can't seem to get Plato to work.  It installed fine and the icon appears on the toolbar but it just doesn't pick the line from the file.

Also, pegasus is installed as the default mail client and it fires up just fine when clicking a mailto link but a MSIE popup keeps reporting that it's not installed properly even though it is working. 

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