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Mike posted Jun 28 '07 at 12:48 pm

[quote user="Medievalist"]Software monocultures are extremely bad for their users...[/quote]

 

That's a dogmatic statement.  And in truth, it's doubtful whether this metaphor is of any particular help to us. As Marcus Ranum points out here--

 

http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/monoculture-hype/index.html 

 

--computers aren't biological entities and behave differently.  Besides, there is no monoculture (insofar as the term has any meaning outside biology, anyway) but a bewildering array of different configurations:

 

 [quote]My system isn't just Windows. My security is effected (and affected) by a bewildering combination of default settings, software patch levels, default firewall rules (I just plugged it in, honest!), browser settings, and antivirus signature sets. We're not in anything like danger of becoming a "monoculture" unless every system was running the same software load-out, security policy, antivirus product, and patch level. In spite of the dearest wishes of countless system administrators, that simply isn't going to happen! So, as much as I hate to say it, Sun's marketing people may have been right, "The network is the computer" - and the network sure as hell isn't going to become a "monoculture" unless Microsoft builds all the firewalls, all the routers, all the switches, all the web accellerators, all the SQL databases and establishes everyone's security, routing, DNS, and update policies.[/quote]

 

Really, this is a dubious metaphor that is only much good for MS-bashing. I don't say that as a fan of the company--I vastly prefer using Apple's products--but I dislike bad analogies. I think computer security is best approached as it is in itself rather than through metaphor.

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Uwe posted May 31 '07 at 3:16 pm

Hi David,

 

found a solution, but it should be a temp solution only.  I tried to issue an usual signature file within Pegasus and checked the PMS file - hooray, there was a different coding of special characters, copied this into rquotes.r compiled - and it works.

Cheers

Uwe  

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PaulW posted May 30 '07 at 12:34 pm

Yes, it's awkward when that happens - and I've done it a few times.  I don't know of a quick way of escaping from it other than killing the program.

 

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Thomas R. Stephenson posted May 30 '07 at 2:01 am

There are a few commercial programs to do this  type of conversion.

UniAccess
       http://www.comaxis.com/ua.htm

Aid4mail
       http://www.aid4mail.com/

Transend
       http://www.transend.com/

You might want to check out the converters available at the following site as well.
       http://www.emailman.com/conversion/#mboxwin

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Alex Leonard posted Jun 2 '07 at 10:38 pm

Thomas,

Got it to work as you suggest with a small variation:

I "shared" the \Pmail folder (which includes the \Mail folder), giving it a network share-name "Pegasus".

In the PCONFIG standalone configuration settings, I defined the Home and New paths as:

"~8"

 Works great.  Thanks for your help!

Alex

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Dave posted May 30 '07 at 6:18 pm

Thank you so much Thomas and David!

 I feel pretty dumb to have looked for so long yet still couldn't find a check box so obvious. Plus all the times I had to send multiple files, adding them one at a time. Duh.

 

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HolyHarp posted Oct 8 '11 at 1:27 pm

As our kind responder says, It is best to enable "show file extentions."  Without that, on my Win xp computer, some of the files showed a file type of "Performance Monitor File"  instead of a pmo, pmw or pmx file.   I caught it when I searched on

*.pmo, *.pmw, *.pmx

 Thanks to the Pegasus team for a great program.

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irelam posted May 28 '07 at 7:10 pm

This looks very much like the previous reports of poorly formatted YahooGroups messages.   The latest version of Bearhtml has fixes for this, and should be used. As mentioned by Thomas it is available at a number of locations, now including the Downloads - Add-ons area in this Community.pmail.com.

If that doesn't fix it, then I recommend you change your profile at YahooGroups back to Classic format 

 
Martin Ireland 

 

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PiS posted May 28 '07 at 1:14 am

This means that your SMTP settings in Pmail must be set to authenticate with the server. Normally by using the same credentials as your POP3 settings.

If you wish - there is a French-speaking forum called "International Pegasus Mail"

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Thomas_N_ posted Jun 1 '07 at 12:00 pm

 

Hello!

 

As the future options are concerned, there is an external program you could use for importing messages: Mercury/32.

Mercury is a mail-server program that also has IMAP-support. The basic idea is to install Mercury with its IMAP-support, then copy the messages from other e-mail clients to the IMAP-account (created by Mercury), then move that messages from the IMAP-account to Pegasus Mail's local mailbox.

I have never used that before, so I can only tell what you might do. The disadvantage is that you have to do so manually; the advantage is that the "transport" via IMAP follows standardised rules, so the messages should not be altered or get lost (to the best of my knowledge).

 

Another idea is that save the messages in a folder that is in Unix mailbox format (*.mbx-files when created in Pegasus Mail). Since Pegasus Mail has some (limited) support for *.mbx-files, one e-mail client could create such a folder, and the oether one (Pegasus Mail) would read it.

You could create a folder in the Unix mailbox format in the other e-mail client and then make Pegasus Mail (try to) read that file, either by copying that file to that Pegasus Mail user's mailbox directory (and renaming that file to an *.mbx-file), or by using the "Add mailbox to list..."-command (and poiting to that directory that contains the *.mbx-files).

As above, you should have to do the work manually...and again, the only thing I know about these conversion steps is the theory - I have never done that in practice, so I do not know about any pitfalls.

 

Perhaps, others can tell you more about that.

 

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dgrahame posted May 28 '07 at 4:26 am

Thanks very much for the explanation, David. It helps quite a lot to understand more about Pegasus' HTML technology (much more complex than I would have imagined!) - and also to know that my OS isn't screwed up somehow.

So how safe would it be to assume that a forwarded HTML section - with "Edit or make changes..." - will probably be seen by the recipient as it originally appeared in the reader window, even if it looks screwy in the compose window? At least in my experiment today, it did work out that way.

Dave


 

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The problem occurs when the windows are maximized.   This

is the way I usually keep them.  I checked to see if the problem

occurs when the windows are normal.  It still does.

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example, when I view the New Mail folder, whether I have the window

normal or maximized, I do not have the bottom scroll arrow.  This

also occurs when I view all of the other mail folders that I have.<>

<>Do you need any other information?

Please advise.

Thank you. 

 

 

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David Harris posted May 28 '07 at 3:07 am

[quote user="Dirty Harry"]

Okay, I'll try that, however, the help file reports that new mail filters are not applied to read mail.

[/quote]

The help is half right: new mail filtering rules applied when the folder is OPENED are not applied to read mail, but the on-close rule set DOES apply to read mail (it really wouldn't be much use if it didn't). On Han's prompting, I've made a note to clarify this in the help file for the next version.

Cheers!

-- David --

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arisme posted Jun 1 '07 at 3:16 pm

As of 06.30 am today 1 Jun 2007, test e-mails arrived at their destinations promptly. It seems the ISP is getting it's act together. Their website claims that test transmissions to all major ISP are now OK, with the exception of AOL.

It is disappointing that this turned out to be a non-event, in the sense that there was no technical problem to chase down and resolve. It was pleasing to find that Pegasus Mail was blameless.

Finally, it was nice to discover this forum, and come away with the comforting feeling that any future problems are no longer likely to be major obstacles.

Thanks, everybody.

 

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